A religious President?

[Technosoul]

Following the Bush years in the White House would you want a religious President next term or someone that is a upstanding individual who seldom mentions a religious idea, or someone inbetween?

State why if you wish under comments for potential debate purposes.

[Technosoul]

Forgot to edit my poll - last choice should have read - Not known for being religious. Oh well, at least the option open will provide some insight for information gathering.

[Chris the Chees]

Quote by: Technosoul Forgot to edit my poll - last choice should have read - Not known for being religious. Oh well, at least the option open will provide some insight for information gathering.

I added your last question.

[Scribbler1]

Why isn't there a "none of the above" button? He can practice any religion he wants as long as he can put it aside when necessary, even if he publicly professes his religion.

The problem is even if a politician was an atheist publicly he would need to be VERY religious or he doesn't get elected in these United States.

[SoccerfreakAB2]

I think we shouldn't be discussing the pros and cons of a religious president, but why the chance of a nonreligious president is so much slimmer...

[Chris]

Dangers of a religious president:

People like Bush are going to go invading countries saying "God told me so" when you also have Andrea Yates type people saying "God told her" to murder her 5 kids. -Wait- didn't this actually happen?

Someone like Joe Liberman being elected may only act in the interest of Israel because of "God's will"

Someone like Joe Liberman being elected will only be pouring gasoline onto the fire that Bush Started in the middle east. (Radical muslims making further connections to Israel and America)

[underbear1]

I went with the third choice but the last choice would also be fine. I figured there's a bigger pool of politicians to pick from that are Christian, than simply not known to be religious, and as long as they don't shove down anyone's throat, it's cool.

[Chris]

Someone like Clinton? Clinton got elected in the era where it still was not cool to be anything other than Christian. Yeah Clinton went to church, but he didn't shove it down people's throats.

[Boetie]

It would be great if this country could be free from the shackles of the supernatural.

Shouldn't one's relationship with one's God be a private matter, in other words, government and politicians should stay out of private matters.

Rather than discussing whether the next president is religion or not, let's discuss on how to keep government and politician's nose out of private matters.

[underbear1]

The answers were pretty Christian-centric, someone of another faith who also doesn't shove it down my throat is cool too.

[underbear1]

Quote by: |Chris| Someone like Clinton? Clinton got elected in the era where it still was not cool to be anything other than Christian. Yeah Clinton went to church, but he didn't shove it down people's throats.

Chris the big oppurtunity your answer leaves about Clinton, flashed through my mind, but none were family-friendly.

[Athena]

I seriously doubt if a non religious person could become President, but I sersiously wish a non religious person did become President.

I am blown away by all the distorted ideas we are living with today. Such as democracy is about being Christian. Being concerned about morals and human decency and the well being of others is about being Christian. Knowing the "true God" and morals is about being Christian.

I liked Liberman until I realized he is a Jew devoted to Israel. Now I agree, electing him would be like pouring oil a fire! No way do I want anyone in office who is going to make history conform with the Christian expectations of the last days. But right now, I am afraid it is too late to stop this insanity. This is the result of replacing the liberal education we had and training for citizenship, with education for technology and producing products for industry, and leaving moral training to the church. It is the focus on education that made Germany what it was when it claimed the New World Order. I am afraid there is too much behind the dam to prevent it from busting now. The worse things get, the more convinced the Christain are that things will happen as they expect them to happen.

[Zeebadee]

Quote by: |Chris| Someone like Clinton? Clinton got elected in the era where it still was not cool to be anything other than Christian. Yeah Clinton went to church, but he didn't shove it down people's throats.

Yeah, only Monica's.


Oops, sorry Underbear, I didn't see your post. That should have been your line.

[shield772]

Well the poll says religious not christian, and to me I would rather have someone who sees themselves answerable to a higher power and that they would be answerable for their stewardship (headship) of this country, I know the arguement is that they are answerable to the voters/citizens but are they really? and do they care?

[SoccerfreakAB2]

Quote by: shield772 Well the poll says religious not christian, and to me I would rather have someone who sees themselves answerable to a higher power and that they would be answerable for their stewardship (headship) of this country, I know the arguement is that they are answerable to the voters/citizens but are they really? and do they care?

And what makes you so sure that person who's a "subject" to a higher power actually cares about the people and not just his higher power? Or how do you know if he even is a subject to a higher power?

[shield772]

Quote by: SoccerfreakAB2 And what makes you so sure that person who's a "subject" to a higher power actually cares about the people and not just his higher power? Or how do you know if he even is a subject to a higher power?

Well I know I am, and having a position of leadership makes you a steward of that office and God would hold me responsible for my actions in that office on judgement day, and I would also follow my principles and beliefs, leaders should not lead by opinion polls, they should lead, the only opinion poll that matters are elections

[Zeebadee]

Quote by: shield772 Well I know I am, and having a position of leadership makes you a steward of that office and God would hold me responsible for my actions in that office on judgement day, and I would also follow my principles and beliefs, leaders should not lead by opinion polls, they should lead, the only opinion poll that matters are elections

Elections are merely formal opinion polls. And if our leaders are truly to represent us, how are they to know what we want if they don't look at opinion polls??

[Technosoul]

[quote=shield772]Well I know I am, and having a position of leadership makes you a steward of that office and God would hold me responsible for my actions in that office on judgement day, and I would also follow my principles and beliefs, leaders should not lead by opinion polls, they should lead, the only opinion poll that matters are elections[/QUOTE).

What you say is correct Shield - they would feel that way indeed, which is also the reason why they should not be holding office. The reason is that the person might imagine that his God told him to act or speak in a certain way and sometimes the imaginaton can lead people into a troubling situaiton. I am sure you can see that is possible. For this reason we (not we personally) established the consitution and other laws that that were voted on after great dilberation - to make sure the President or others would not attempt to dominate the will of the nation by his own opinon about the will of the Almighty Higher Power.

Anyway if God really wanted to direct the USA government he could send down his Son to run for office. I for one don't trust some of those other so-called representives of God.

[shield772]

You should be able to see what kind of a leader candidates will be, how they will vote/act on issues, they all have e-mails and mailing addresses where voters/citizens can contact them and express opinions, I find polls to be quite partisan and constructed to give the outcome that the poll takers/constructors want them to say, I have been an active and registered voter and politically active for 20 years and have never been contacted for a poll.

[Zealot]

Quote by: |Chris| Someone like Clinton? Clinton got elected in the era where it still was not cool to be anything other than Christian. Yeah Clinton went to church, but he didn't shove it down people's throats.

Then why did Clinton carry that big Bible and every time they gave him the pulpit he jumped at it.