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fishamaphone · Mar 29, 2004, 12:57 am

I called into a talk show on Friday. On Thursday, I filled out the forms to register to vote. Through much aggrivation, I recorded, and then transcribed, my conversation on that talk show(transcription is HELL). Just remember, they're proffessionals and I'm not. And there's 2 of them. Brian's the producer, Steve's the host, but Brian talks a lot on the show as well.

I supplant my real name with the word “fish.” For your understanding and my safety :-P. Anything in parentheses is just stuff I’m adding to help you understand and may not necessarily have been spoken. Brackets mean something that’s implied but not said in context. I tried to type it to best convey the way things were said, but I didn't always succeed.

Oh, I forgot... he'd read an article just before this regarding WLIB in New York, a Carribean radio station that was changing to a Liberal talk format. He was calling the liberals hypocrites for singlehandedly taking out the Carribean social center of New York.

Oh, one more thing... this is 4 and a half pages in Word. I know. Please bear with it? I'd like to hear your guys' responses.

Steve: But anyway, 1-877-ASK-****, 1-877-275-****. (he stumbles on my name)

Brian: (corrects him on my name)

Steve: Fish. How are you doing?

Me: hi

Steve: hi, fish

Me: I’d like to go back to what you were saying about that Carribean station

Steve: yeah.

Me: Um, Something you kinda said for one second and then went over, didn’t the article say that the station really wasn’t profitable?

Steve: Uh, It said it, uh, no, it does say that , I mean it says--

Brian: nononono

Steve: hold on let me--

Brian: read it again

Steve: let me read you exactly what it says… Lemme just (muttering as he scans the article) oh, here we go: “WLIB’s listenership may have been loyal, but it was too small to allow the station to make enough ad revenue.” In other words, what they’re saying here is that the rich, white liberals that came in to lease the station offered them more money than the revenue they were taking in from the Carribean community(Brian interjects with votes of agreement in the background) that they were serving, that’s what they’re saying. So what is your point about that?

Me: Actually, that’s not what they—they didn’t say that. That’s what you’re inferring from it.

Steve: Well what d’y… well, tell me what you infer, I’ve got an open mind. What does this say to you?

Me: It says that they may have been making money, but it wasn’t enough to, say, pay their staff, keep their equipment, and…

Brian: Fish, listen, they did not say that they are losing money, they say that—that statement implies that they are making a profit, but that they can make a bigger profit with the white man coming in.

Steve: Lemme, do you know, fish, do you know how well, by the way, that’s a great name. What, what, uh, what kind of name is that?

Me: it’s Israeli

Steve: Israeli, oh, I gotcha. Um… do you know how long LIB has been there, uhya, in the Carribean community? I mean decades, and decades. It’s an old, old station, they don’t make a ton of money, but they’ve been self-supporting for years, they’ve never made a lot of money, but they give a lot of jobs to people in the community, and they are basically a rallying point for the community.

Brian: And not only that, they’re now outsourcing.

Steve: So what are you going to, so I mean, fish, is your point that it was a good thing for the rich, white liberals to come in and throw all these black people out of work, is that your point?

Me: no, no, my point is that it might have been on decisions other than just, y’know, the one to go in there (not my most shinging moment, verbally)

Brian: It’s greed. It’s, they’re not losing money, they can make a bigger profit. Another thing: Democrats are against outsourcing. They outsource outside of the New York City area, they come down to Palm Beach, take Randy [Rhoads](local liberal talk show host), they outsource to L.A., take [Jenine] Garafalo, and, um, uh, and by the way, Garafalo’s broadcasting from L.A., so they’re taking enine—they’re outcsourcing all the engeneering staff from out there. They go to L.A., they outsource Al Franken. This is a terrible blow. And what about those Carribean businesses that have no other outlet to advertise?

Me: Are you comparing outsourcing to India to outsourcing to California?

Brian: Might as well be. When you’re—listen, if you a low-wage black person working in a technical position, a support position, office staff, for LIB for the last 15-20 years, they go to India or L.A. or Palm Beach in Randy’s case, it doesn’t matter where—

Steve: The job is still gone,

Brian: yeah

Steve: you agree with that, don’t you?

Me: To an extent, but it’s moved to—(you can’t hear me as he’s talking over) America.

Steve: To a— Only to an extent? If you lose your job, do you care whether your j- whether you’re replaced by somebody from India or somebody from California? If you’re out of work?

Me: But if I was in L.A. and I got that job…

Steve: Alright, anyway—

Brian: Listen, fish, you’re Israeli, you must be angry—you must not like John Kerry very much.

Me: No, I support John Kerry.

Brian: oh, I’m surprize—

Steve: Oh-ho. Wait a minute, let me, let’s just explore this a little bit, if you don’t mind. John Kerry wants to turn the security of America over to the United Nations that just voted to censor your country yesterday, without mentioning anything about the Palestinian terrorists. Do you have confidence in his judgement in this?

Me: … it …(what can I say? He caught me off guard.)

Steve: Hmm, it’s embarassing isn’t it. It’s embarassing. I, look, I—

Me: No, it’s something I can’t think of off the top of my head, I—

Steve: Oh, of course, and do you know why you can’t think of anything off the top of your head? Because to support John Kerry as an Israeli when he’s basically turning his back on Israel before he’s even elected(I try to get something in) is— what?

Me: Ariel Sharon is turning his back on Israel.

Steve: Oh, you don’t like Sharon.

Me: Naw.

Steve: Oh, so you’re a self-hating Jew, OK.

Brian: Do you approve of—

Me: No(was in response to Steve, as Brian hadn’t given me a chance to respond)

Brian: Wait, do you approve of the killing of the Hamas leader?

Me: I think it was justified, I think it’s going to have more repercussions than it’s worth.

Steve: Ok—(Brian cut him off as he said “OK,” but he didn’t get to pronounce the full word, so it came out like “oak” )

Brian: Well, wait a minute, not only does the United Nations and John Kerry not believe it’s justified, OK, they condemned Israel for it, y—is Hamas a bad organization, are they a terrorist organization?

Me: Yes.

Brian: John Kerry’s boys in the UN don’t believe so. They believe they’re freedom fighters.

Me: Silence

Brian: This is who you support, John Kerry. (Tries to say something else)

Steve: That’s cool. Hey, you can turn your back on your country, there’s no big thing about that, as long as you’re, y’know, voting for John Kerry and Democrat, that’s what really matters. To hell with your own country, right?

Me: n-naw, the idea is completely different, it’s a non-sequitur(Brian: no it’s not) almost.

Steve: hmm

Brian: Fish, listen, listen, John Kerry is running on a—can you vote in America

Me: uh, ah(realize, I’d just *pre*- registered to vote the day before: it was a complicated answer)

Brian: You can’t vote, well(Me: technically), well, OK.

Me: I’ve pre-registered to vote, but I’m only 17, though.

Brian: John Kerry is running a campaign based on the United States’ not going along with UN mandate. John Kerry’s running a campaign saying, “America, we must go to the United Nations, this is the authority.”

Steve: Well, there, ah, but this guy likes the UN. Don’t you, sir?

Me: Yes.

Steve: Yeah,

Me: Well…

Steve: How about the fact that they were stealing the, uh, our allies in the UN Germany and France, it’s coming out now, wanted to keep Saddam in power because they were skimming billions of dollars off the oil for food program. Stealing. And that’s why they wanted to keep that good deal going. How do you feel about that?

Me: That’s another inference.

Steve: An inference? That’s not an inference, it’s a major scandal, if you read the newspapers.

Me: They were skimming money, but that might—

Steve: Billions

Me: not have anything to do

Steve: Billions

Me: with their—

Steve: Billions, billions, billions, with the knowledge, by the way, if you watch television, uh, the people on top who analyze this thing say that the scale of the stealing was so humongous there was no way that Kofi Anan, yeah well who I’m sure you love, uh, couldn’t have known about it. In fact, Kofi Anan’s son was one of the big, ah, big theifs.

Me: As I said, the two might- may or may not have anything to do with each other. (I try to explain as they both speak over me, finally Brian coming out on top)

Brian: Fish, fish, let me, as an Israeli, I’m glad we have an Israeli here, ah, you’re pleased that the United States liberated Iraq from Saddam Hussein, are you not? As an Israeli.

Me: It’s, ah, double-edged sword. The-the idea- it was good that Iraq got liberated, but I think there will be more repercussions than it’s worth.

Brian: Well, one repercussion has been this: ah, the leader of Iraq is no longer paying $30,000 for, ah, Palestinians to go and kill innocent Israelis

Me: (Steve tries to support Brian as I’m responding) Neither is the leader of Hamas, but a new one came to power.

Both: no, no

Steve: We’re talking about Saddam, Saddam, you might not have known this, by the way, you’re doing really well for somebody who’s 17(ha! Moment of victory!). I have callers that are 40 that can’t speak as well as you do.

Brian: yeah.

Me: thanks.

Steve: Saddam used to pay off the family of suicide bombers, and he can’t do that now because he’s in jail, isn’t that a good thing?

Me: That is a good thing, but there are bad things to counter-balance that.

Steve: Hmm… Alright, well you’ll find in life that, ah, there are very few things that are all good. Life is an issue of struggle.

Brian: There certainly was no good with Saddam Hussein paying the suicide bombers.

Steve: Fish, what are you, home from school today?

Me: yeah, teacher work day

Steve: eahh… right, OK, well listen, hey, call us again, ok? You did a real good job.

Me: Thank you.(about now was when we disconnected)

Steve: alright.

Brian: Ah, teacher work day, you know what that means.

Steve: Yeah, it means a day off

Brian: No, no it doesn’t. It means that, ah, teenagers in this country are home alone, no parents at home, parents are working, that means they’re having sex. They have the house now.

Mar 29, 2004, 01:42 am

Okay? Why did you post this topic?

Suburbanite · Mar 29, 2004, 02:39 am

sigh... you should have been having sex

Jackney Sneeb · Mar 29, 2004, 03:55 am

</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (dave654,)
Okay? Why did you post this topic?<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>
Maybe he's not experienced enough to know that he got his ass royally kicked.

Fish, you're either very humble in which case I commend you for your candor, however showing how badly you did against two conservatives ganging up on you isn't my idea of a good time -- or you don't realize that you didn't say very much at all, and provided the two hosts a batch of fresh corn for their grist mill.

--Jackney Sneeb

fishamaphone · Mar 29, 2004, 10:39 am

As I said in the begining, they're proffesionals, I'm not. They know how to control a conversation through years of radio experience(the host has been on/involved with radio for over 40 years), and I don't. Furthermore, they have a practiced synergy where one brings up a point and the other brings in another before you can speak.

The reason I posted this was because it's the first time I've called into such a show, and all things considered, I did do well. The host himself even said so. I caught him offguard a few times, and got through the conversation without him really decimating any of my arguments(as I've seen him do with other callers). Mainly, I post this out of pride, and out of knowledge that there are not many people who can do what I did and stay level-headed the whole time, although I know that factually speaking, I did lose that argument.

dotcoma · Mar 29, 2004, 11:40 am

Hey dude, good job. They did kick your ass but not necessarily because they are smarter or have a better argument. They control the format, keep that in mind. I've called into the Liddy Show and a few others. It's best to make your statement and hang up leaving them left to fumble by themselves. Consolidate your argument into one loaded question and keep the burden on them by not allowing them to throw anything back at you.

dotcoma · Mar 29, 2004, 04:08 pm

...that approach has drawbacks as well mind you but a carefully worded, quick rant is sometimes better than letting them size you up and shoot back.

Mar 29, 2004, 06:20 pm

Hey Fish, sure you did a good job considering your experience vs. theirs. However, you were trounced on the issues. I'm sure these guys are quite annoying but they happen to be right this time. After reading your post I find myself agreeing with the talk show guys.

Mathieu · Mar 29, 2004, 08:08 pm

Well pretty much everything they say is over-generalization, conscious ommision of fact, deformation of truth , simplification etc...

It is certainly hard to answer fast and well when you get so much fallacies thrown in the face so rapidly !

castille · Apr 1, 2004, 11:23 am

What time exactly did you call into the show? One of my friends still has a database of transcripts from every radio show since 1987. I'd like to look at the actual conversation.

fishamaphone · Apr 1, 2004, 12:57 pm

It's the Steve Kane show... that was the one that aired on Friday, March 27 on AM 1470... I believe it was around 7:30 AM that I called in.

I'd like to hear more about this database of yours... is it every talkshow? Just certain ones? Do you know this particular show, by any chance?

Apr 1, 2004, 11:23 am	#10 (permalink) (top)
castille Citizen #21521 Posts: 2,599	What time exactly did you call into the show? One of my friends still has a database of transcripts from every radio show since 1987. I'd like to look at the actual conversation. Ideological loyalty is the act of giving your soul to a vague concept, to be manipulated by people smarter than you.

Mar 29, 2004, 12:57 am	#1 (permalink) (top)
fishamaphone Molten Ash Posts: 68	I called into a talk show on Friday. On Thursday, I filled out the forms to register to vote. Through much aggrivation, I recorded, and then transcribed, my conversation on that talk show(transcription is HELL). Just remember, they're proffessionals and I'm not. And there's 2 of them. Brian's the producer, Steve's the host, but Brian talks a lot on the show as well. I supplant my real name with the word “fish.” For your understanding and my safety :-P. Anything in parentheses is just stuff I’m adding to help you understand and may not necessarily have been spoken. Brackets mean something that’s implied but not said in context. I tried to type it to best convey the way things were said, but I didn't always succeed. Oh, I forgot... he'd read an article just before this regarding WLIB in New York, a Carribean radio station that was changing to a Liberal talk format. He was calling the liberals hypocrites for singlehandedly taking out the Carribean social center of New York. Oh, one more thing... this is 4 and a half pages in Word. I know. Please bear with it? I'd like to hear your guys' responses. Steve: But anyway, 1-877-ASK-**, 1-877-275-*. (he stumbles on my name) Brian: (corrects him on my name) Steve: Fish. How are you doing? Me: hi Steve: hi, fish Me: I’d like to go back to what you were saying about that Carribean station Steve: yeah. Me: Um, Something you kinda said for one second and then went over, didn’t the article say that the station really wasn’t profitable? Steve: Uh, It said it, uh, no, it does say that , I mean it says-- Brian: nononono Steve: hold on let me-- Brian: read it again Steve: let me read you exactly what it says… Lemme just (muttering as he scans the article) oh, here we go: “WLIB’s listenership may have been loyal, but it was too small to allow the station to make enough ad revenue.” In other words, what they’re saying here is that the rich, white liberals that came in to lease the station offered them more money than the revenue they were taking in from the Carribean community(Brian interjects with votes of agreement in the background) that they were serving, that’s what they’re saying. So what is your point about that? Me: Actually, that’s not what they—they didn’t say that. That’s what you’re inferring from it. Steve: Well what d’y… well, tell me what you infer, I’ve got an open mind. What does this say to you? Me: It says that they may have been making money, but it wasn’t enough to, say, pay their staff, keep their equipment, and… Brian: Fish, listen, they did not say that they are losing money, they say that—that statement implies that they are making a profit, but that they can make a bigger profit with the white man coming in. Steve: Lemme, do you know, fish, do you know how well, by the way, that’s a great name. What, what, uh, what kind of name is that? Me: it’s Israeli Steve: Israeli, oh, I gotcha. Um… do you know how long LIB has been there, uhya, in the Carribean community? I mean decades, and decades. It’s an old, old station, they don’t make a ton of money, but they’ve been self-supporting for years, they’ve never made a lot of money, but they give a lot of jobs to people in the community, and they are basically a rallying point for the community. Brian: And not only that, they’re now outsourcing. Steve: So what are you going to, so I mean, fish, is your point that it was a good thing for the rich, white liberals to come in and throw all these black people out of work, is that your point? Me: no, no, my point is that it might have been on decisions other than just, y’know, the one to go in there (not my most shinging moment, verbally) Brian: It’s greed. It’s, they’re not losing money, they can make a bigger profit. Another thing: Democrats are against outsourcing. They outsource outside of the New York City area, they come down to Palm Beach, take Randy [Rhoads](local liberal talk show host), they outsource to L.A., take [Jenine] Garafalo, and, um, uh, and by the way, Garafalo’s broadcasting from L.A., so they’re taking enine—they’re outcsourcing all the engeneering staff from out there. They go to L.A., they outsource Al Franken. This is a terrible blow. And what about those Carribean businesses that have no other outlet to advertise? Me: Are you comparing outsourcing to India to outsourcing to California? Brian: Might as well be. When you’re—listen, if you a low-wage black person working in a technical position, a support position, office staff, for LIB for the last 15-20 years, they go to India or L.A. or Palm Beach in Randy’s case, it doesn’t matter where— Steve: The job is still gone, Brian: yeah Steve: you agree with that, don’t you? Me: To an extent, but it’s moved to—(you can’t hear me as he’s talking over) America. Steve: To a— Only to an extent? If you lose your job, do you care whether your j- whether you’re replaced by somebody from India or somebody from California? If you’re out of work? Me: But if I was in L.A. and I got that job… Steve: Alright, anyway— Brian: Listen, fish, you’re Israeli, you must be angry—you must not like John Kerry very much. Me: No, I support John Kerry. Brian: oh, I’m surprize— Steve: Oh-ho. Wait a minute, let me, let’s just explore this a little bit, if you don’t mind. John Kerry wants to turn the security of America over to the United Nations that just voted to censor your country yesterday, without mentioning anything about the Palestinian terrorists. Do you have confidence in his judgement in this? Me: … it …(what can I say? He caught me off guard.) Steve: Hmm, it’s embarassing isn’t it. It’s embarassing. I, look, I— Me: No, it’s something I can’t think of off the top of my head, I— Steve: Oh, of course, and do you know why you can’t think of anything off the top of your head? Because to support John Kerry as an Israeli when he’s basically turning his back on Israel before he’s even elected(I try to get something in) is— what? Me: Ariel Sharon is turning his back on Israel. Steve: Oh, you don’t like Sharon. Me: Naw. Steve: Oh, so you’re a self-hating Jew, OK. Brian: Do you approve of— Me: No(was in response to Steve, as Brian hadn’t given me a chance to respond) Brian: Wait, do you approve of the killing of the Hamas leader? Me: I think it was justified, I think it’s going to have more repercussions than it’s worth. Steve: Ok—(Brian cut him off as he said “OK,” but he didn’t get to pronounce the full word, so it came out like “oak” ) Brian: Well, wait a minute, not only does the United Nations and John Kerry not believe it’s justified, OK, they condemned Israel for it, y—is Hamas a bad organization, are they a terrorist organization? Me: Yes. Brian: John Kerry’s boys in the UN don’t believe so. They believe they’re freedom fighters. Me: Silence Brian: This is who you support, John Kerry. (Tries to say something else) Steve: That’s cool. Hey, you can turn your back on your country, there’s no big thing about that, as long as you’re, y’know, voting for John Kerry and Democrat, that’s what really matters. To hell with your own country, right? Me: n-naw, the idea is completely different, it’s a non-sequitur(Brian: no it’s not) almost. Steve: hmm Brian: Fish, listen, listen, John Kerry is running on a—can you vote in America Me: uh, ah(realize, I’d just pre*- registered to vote the day before: it was a complicated answer) Brian: You can’t vote, well(Me: technically), well, OK. Me: I’ve pre-registered to vote, but I’m only 17, though. Brian: John Kerry is running a campaign based on the United States’ not going along with UN mandate. John Kerry’s running a campaign saying, “America, we must go to the United Nations, this is the authority.” Steve: Well, there, ah, but this guy likes the UN. Don’t you, sir? Me: Yes. Steve: Yeah, Me: Well… Steve: How about the fact that they were stealing the, uh, our allies in the UN Germany and France, it’s coming out now, wanted to keep Saddam in power because they were skimming billions of dollars off the oil for food program. Stealing. And that’s why they wanted to keep that good deal going. How do you feel about that? Me: That’s another inference. Steve: An inference? That’s not an inference, it’s a major scandal, if you read the newspapers. Me: They were skimming money, but that might— Steve: Billions Me: not have anything to do Steve: Billions Me: with their— Steve: Billions, billions, billions, with the knowledge, by the way, if you watch television, uh, the people on top who analyze this thing say that the scale of the stealing was so humongous there was no way that Kofi Anan, yeah well who I’m sure you love, uh, couldn’t have known about it. In fact, Kofi Anan’s son was one of the big, ah, big theifs. Me: As I said, the two might- may or may not have anything to do with each other. (I try to explain as they both speak over me, finally Brian coming out on top) Brian: Fish, fish, let me, as an Israeli, I’m glad we have an Israeli here, ah, you’re pleased that the United States liberated Iraq from Saddam Hussein, are you not? As an Israeli. Me: It’s, ah, double-edged sword. The-the idea- it was good that Iraq got liberated, but I think there will be more repercussions than it’s worth. Brian: Well, one repercussion has been this: ah, the leader of Iraq is no longer paying $30,000 for, ah, Palestinians to go and kill innocent Israelis Me: (Steve tries to support Brian as I’m responding) Neither is the leader of Hamas, but a new one came to power. Both: no, no Steve: We’re talking about Saddam, Saddam, you might not have known this, by the way, you’re doing really well for somebody who’s 17(ha! Moment of victory!). I have callers that are 40 that can’t speak as well as you do. Brian: yeah. Me: thanks. Steve: Saddam used to pay off the family of suicide bombers, and he can’t do that now because he’s in jail, isn’t that a good thing? Me: That is a good thing, but there are bad things to counter-balance that. Steve: Hmm… Alright, well you’ll find in life that, ah, there are very few things that are all good. Life is an issue of struggle. Brian: There certainly was no good with Saddam Hussein paying the suicide bombers. Steve: Fish, what are you, home from school today? Me: yeah, teacher work day Steve: eahh… right, OK, well listen, hey, call us again, ok? You did a real good job. Me: Thank you.(about now was when we disconnected) Steve: alright. Brian: Ah, teacher work day, you know what that means. Steve: Yeah, it means a day off Brian: No, no it doesn’t. It means that, ah, teenagers in this country are home alone, no parents at home, parents are working, that means they’re having sex. They have the house now.

Mar 29, 2004, 01:42 am	#2 (permalink) (top)
dave654 Guest Posts: n/a	Okay? Why did you post this topic?

Mar 29, 2004, 02:39 am	#3 (permalink) (top)
Suburbanite BANNED Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,203	sigh... you should have been having sex

Mar 29, 2004, 03:55 am	#4 (permalink) (top)
Jackney Sneeb Igneous Magma Posts: 240	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (dave654,) Okay? Why did you post this topic?<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> Maybe he's not experienced enough to know that he got his ass royally kicked. Fish, you're either very humble in which case I commend you for your candor, however showing how badly you did against two conservatives ganging up on you isn't my idea of a good time -- or you don't realize that you didn't say very much at all, and provided the two hosts a batch of fresh corn for their grist mill. --Jackney Sneeb

Mar 29, 2004, 10:39 am	#5 (permalink) (top)
fishamaphone Molten Ash Posts: 68	As I said in the begining, they're proffesionals, I'm not. They know how to control a conversation through years of radio experience(the host has been on/involved with radio for over 40 years), and I don't. Furthermore, they have a practiced synergy where one brings up a point and the other brings in another before you can speak. The reason I posted this was because it's the first time I've called into such a show, and all things considered, I did do well. The host himself even said so. I caught him offguard a few times, and got through the conversation without him really decimating any of my arguments(as I've seen him do with other callers). Mainly, I post this out of pride, and out of knowledge that there are not many people who can do what I did and stay level-headed the whole time, although I know that factually speaking, I did lose that argument.

Mar 29, 2004, 11:40 am	#6 (permalink) (top)
dotcoma Volcanic Erupter Posts: 3,154	Hey dude, good job. They did kick your ass but not necessarily because they are smarter or have a better argument. They control the format, keep that in mind. I've called into the Liddy Show and a few others. It's best to make your statement and hang up leaving them left to fumble by themselves. Consolidate your argument into one loaded question and keep the burden on them by not allowing them to throw anything back at you.

Mar 29, 2004, 04:08 pm	#7 (permalink) (top)
dotcoma Volcanic Erupter Posts: 3,154	...that approach has drawbacks as well mind you but a carefully worded, quick rant is sometimes better than letting them size you up and shoot back.

Mar 29, 2004, 06:20 pm	#8 (permalink) (top)
dave654 Guest Posts: n/a	Hey Fish, sure you did a good job considering your experience vs. theirs. However, you were trounced on the issues. I'm sure these guys are quite annoying but they happen to be right this time. After reading your post I find myself agreeing with the talk show guys.

Mar 29, 2004, 08:08 pm	#9 (permalink) (top)
Mathieu Igneous Magma Location: Montreal Posts: 216	Well pretty much everything they say is over-generalization, conscious ommision of fact, deformation of truth , simplification etc... It is certainly hard to answer fast and well when you get so much fallacies thrown in the face so rapidly !

Apr 1, 2004, 12:57 pm	#11 (permalink) (top)
fishamaphone Molten Ash Posts: 68	It's the Steve Kane show... that was the one that aired on Friday, March 27 on AM 1470... I believe it was around 7:30 AM that I called in. I'd like to hear more about this database of yours... is it every talkshow? Just certain ones? Do you know this particular show, by any chance?