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Plaything48 · Mar 26, 2004, 05:37 pm

"Viewers saw footage of what Israeli television called a 'mentally challenged' boy stopped at a checkpoint south of Nablus. The boy, Husam Abdu, was shown standing at a distance from the Israeli soldiers whilst he was instructed in Hebrew how to remove the vest. 'After a roughly 40-minute drama in full view of the cameras filming a frightened child wearing an eight-kilogram explosive vest, Husam managed to take off the explosive charge,' the TV reported. In the Israeli press on Thursday pictures of 'the little bomber,' as they call him, dominate the front pages... 'Blowing myself up is the only chance I've got to have sex with 72 virgins in the Garden of Eden,' The Post quoted Husam as saying his handlers had told him."

I always knew about thr 72 virgins thing, but I have only just realised that these guys must be really stupid. Who would want to kill themselves just to be stuck for all eternity with 72 women, nearly all of which you can't pleasure all the time. Imagine the aggrevation you'd get. Most guys can't even handle one. I just dunno anymore :(

Impenitent · Mar 26, 2004, 05:40 pm

A man has two reasons for doing anything --- a good reason and the real reason...

and the reason that is based on the heavenly lie...

dannyp · Mar 26, 2004, 05:43 pm

i think in hindsight he realized how many other martyrs get to be in eden and score with the same 72 virgins.

Mia · Mar 26, 2004, 05:43 pm

In "The Mind of a Suicide bomber" they said 17. OK, you're right, what's the difference? That part is so stupid. The men shown in the film were motivated by doing something for their cause and were mollified by the promise of heaven. They didn't do it for the virgins. It wasn't even told to all of them.

Can you cite your source for this?

castille · Mar 27, 2004, 08:31 am

Its sad when little kids are being pushed into blowing themselves up to destroy anyone who doesnt worship Islam.

I saw the photo of the Israeli soldier pushing the kid along - it was the Israeli who was more scared than the kid, judging by the expression on his face. The "shit I'm too young to die" kind of expression.

Mia · Mar 27, 2004, 04:45 pm

Why do you keep repeating this "anyone who doesn't believe in Islam" crap? That's not why bombs go to Israel.

castille · Mar 28, 2004, 02:09 am

Its the reason why Bin Laden is popular.

Mia · Mar 28, 2004, 02:16 am

What is the reason Bin Laden is popular? And who do you assert he is popular with?

castille · Mar 28, 2004, 02:25 am

He is popular with any Muslim who doesn't like America. And sometimes even nutcases who aren't Muslim.

The reason? People dont like America. Why? I dont know, to tell the truth the Americans arent as bad as the Russians ever were, so maybe its petty jealousy?

After all, the same happens in Asia. Anti-Japanese, anti-Chinese feeling, because both nations have become powerful.

We all fear power. And fear is hatred, according to Hitler Youth.

Mia · Mar 28, 2004, 02:32 am

Mainly it is Israel. Talked to many Arabs? Didn't think so. The ones in the WTC didn't like Bin Laden any more than you or I. BTW, it's very difficult to lump "Arabs" together.

It's like lumping "white people" together. English people are pretty different from Americans are different than South Africans than .........

I think your image of Arabs and/or muslims is quite limited and confined to the few that are terrorists.

Therefore you shouldn't make assumptions about them.

Plaything48 · Mar 28, 2004, 06:24 am

Its always nice to see a non-serious post turn serious. (sigh)

dannyp · Mar 28, 2004, 07:10 am

my post was the last unserious.

castille · Mar 28, 2004, 08:16 am

Mia, how many Arabs have YOU talked to? And have you ever actually talked to an Israeli? I've done both, in both universities and business. Have you?

Funny how so many terrorists are associated with Islam. How many Buddhist or Christian terrorists are there? A few? A thousand? As many as Islamic terrorists?

Impenitent · Mar 28, 2004, 03:25 pm

actually there are loads of christian terrorists... the IRA for starters...

dotcoma · Mar 28, 2004, 03:41 pm

</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Impenitent,)
actually there are loads of christian terrorists... the IRA for starters...<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>

Less than 300 active members. Hardly "loads."

Impenitent · Mar 28, 2004, 03:58 pm

LOL did you take roll at their last meeting?

dotcoma · Mar 28, 2004, 04:05 pm

No, I used to live an hour from Belfast.

Impenitent · Mar 28, 2004, 04:22 pm

good for you, I am sure you knew all about the inner workings of the IRA and exactly who the 300 members were simply because you lived an hour away...

dotcoma · Mar 28, 2004, 04:37 pm

If you read any of Gerry Adams' books or even stuff written from a British/Loyalists point of view, it's pretty much agreed upon that the IRA consists of a very small, loose network of prominant Irish-Catholic families. Yes, there might be more than 300. Maybe less. But if you ask either side or anybody that knows anything about The Troubles the number of active IRA members, they will give you roughly the same figure.

You said "loads". Three hundred people is hardly "loads". Are their more members that you know of? If so, how many? How many do you consider "loads"?

Impenitent · Mar 28, 2004, 05:56 pm

I said loads of christian terrorists... the IRA is not the only christian terrorist organization...

Mar 26, 2004, 05:37 pm	#1 (permalink) (top)
Plaything48 Igneous Magma Location: London baby, yeah! Posts: 198	"Viewers saw footage of what Israeli television called a 'mentally challenged' boy stopped at a checkpoint south of Nablus. The boy, Husam Abdu, was shown standing at a distance from the Israeli soldiers whilst he was instructed in Hebrew how to remove the vest. 'After a roughly 40-minute drama in full view of the cameras filming a frightened child wearing an eight-kilogram explosive vest, Husam managed to take off the explosive charge,' the TV reported. In the Israeli press on Thursday pictures of 'the little bomber,' as they call him, dominate the front pages... 'Blowing myself up is the only chance I've got to have sex with 72 virgins in the Garden of Eden,' The Post quoted Husam as saying his handlers had told him." I always knew about thr 72 virgins thing, but I have only just realised that these guys must be really stupid. Who would want to kill themselves just to be stuck for all eternity with 72 women, nearly all of which you can't pleasure all the time. Imagine the aggrevation you'd get. Most guys can't even handle one. I just dunno anymore :( A man has two reasons for doing anything --- a good reason and the real reason. Let us be thankful for the fools. But for them the rest of us could not succeed In spite of the cost of living, it's still popular.

Mar 26, 2004, 05:40 pm	#2 (permalink) (top)
Impenitent Hot Lava Posts: 1,859	A man has two reasons for doing anything --- a good reason and the real reason... and the reason that is based on the heavenly lie... "I really like this jacket, but the sleeves are much too long..." insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results...

Mar 26, 2004, 05:43 pm	#3 (permalink) (top)
dannyp projects himself Posts: 130	i think in hindsight he realized how many other martyrs get to be in eden and score with the same 72 virgins. projectdp.com :: thinktankforums.com

Mar 26, 2004, 05:43 pm	#4 (permalink) (top)
Mia Retired Posts: 7,312	In "The Mind of a Suicide bomber" they said 17. OK, you're right, what's the difference? That part is so stupid. The men shown in the film were motivated by doing something for their cause and were mollified by the promise of heaven. They didn't do it for the virgins. It wasn't even told to all of them. Can you cite your source for this? "...with like-minded people one cannot discuss. With like-minded people one can only participate in a church service, and you know how I feel about church services." Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Mar 27, 2004, 08:31 am	#5 (permalink) (top)
castille Citizen #21521 Posts: 2,599	Its sad when little kids are being pushed into blowing themselves up to destroy anyone who doesnt worship Islam. I saw the photo of the Israeli soldier pushing the kid along - it was the Israeli who was more scared than the kid, judging by the expression on his face. The "shit I'm too young to die" kind of expression. Ideological loyalty is the act of giving your soul to a vague concept, to be manipulated by people smarter than you.

Mar 27, 2004, 04:45 pm	#6 (permalink) (top)
Mia Retired Posts: 7,312	Why do you keep repeating this "anyone who doesn't believe in Islam" crap? That's not why bombs go to Israel. "...with like-minded people one cannot discuss. With like-minded people one can only participate in a church service, and you know how I feel about church services." Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Mar 28, 2004, 02:09 am	#7 (permalink) (top)
castille Citizen #21521 Posts: 2,599	Its the reason why Bin Laden is popular. Ideological loyalty is the act of giving your soul to a vague concept, to be manipulated by people smarter than you.

Mar 28, 2004, 02:16 am	#8 (permalink) (top)
Mia Retired Posts: 7,312	What is the reason Bin Laden is popular? And who do you assert he is popular with? "...with like-minded people one cannot discuss. With like-minded people one can only participate in a church service, and you know how I feel about church services." Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Mar 28, 2004, 02:25 am	#9 (permalink) (top)
castille Citizen #21521 Posts: 2,599	He is popular with any Muslim who doesn't like America. And sometimes even nutcases who aren't Muslim. The reason? People dont like America. Why? I dont know, to tell the truth the Americans arent as bad as the Russians ever were, so maybe its petty jealousy? After all, the same happens in Asia. Anti-Japanese, anti-Chinese feeling, because both nations have become powerful. We all fear power. And fear is hatred, according to Hitler Youth. Ideological loyalty is the act of giving your soul to a vague concept, to be manipulated by people smarter than you.

Mar 28, 2004, 02:32 am	#10 (permalink) (top)
Mia Retired Posts: 7,312	Mainly it is Israel. Talked to many Arabs? Didn't think so. The ones in the WTC didn't like Bin Laden any more than you or I. BTW, it's very difficult to lump "Arabs" together. It's like lumping "white people" together. English people are pretty different from Americans are different than South Africans than ......... I think your image of Arabs and/or muslims is quite limited and confined to the few that are terrorists. Therefore you shouldn't make assumptions about them. "...with like-minded people one cannot discuss. With like-minded people one can only participate in a church service, and you know how I feel about church services." Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Mar 28, 2004, 06:24 am	#11 (permalink) (top)
Plaything48 Igneous Magma Location: London baby, yeah! Posts: 198	Its always nice to see a non-serious post turn serious. (sigh) A man has two reasons for doing anything --- a good reason and the real reason. Let us be thankful for the fools. But for them the rest of us could not succeed In spite of the cost of living, it's still popular.

Mar 28, 2004, 07:10 am	#12 (permalink) (top)
dannyp projects himself Posts: 130	my post was the last unserious. projectdp.com :: thinktankforums.com

Mar 28, 2004, 08:16 am	#13 (permalink) (top)
castille Citizen #21521 Posts: 2,599	Mia, how many Arabs have YOU talked to? And have you ever actually talked to an Israeli? I've done both, in both universities and business. Have you? Funny how so many terrorists are associated with Islam. How many Buddhist or Christian terrorists are there? A few? A thousand? As many as Islamic terrorists? Ideological loyalty is the act of giving your soul to a vague concept, to be manipulated by people smarter than you.

Mar 28, 2004, 03:25 pm	#14 (permalink) (top)
Impenitent Hot Lava Posts: 1,859	actually there are loads of christian terrorists... the IRA for starters... "I really like this jacket, but the sleeves are much too long..." insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results...

Mar 28, 2004, 03:41 pm	#15 (permalink) (top)
dotcoma Volcanic Erupter Posts: 3,154	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Impenitent,) actually there are loads of christian terrorists... the IRA for starters...<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> Less than 300 active members. Hardly "loads."

Mar 28, 2004, 03:58 pm	#16 (permalink) (top)
Impenitent Hot Lava Posts: 1,859	LOL did you take roll at their last meeting? "I really like this jacket, but the sleeves are much too long..." insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results...

Mar 28, 2004, 04:05 pm	#17 (permalink) (top)
dotcoma Volcanic Erupter Posts: 3,154	No, I used to live an hour from Belfast.

Mar 28, 2004, 04:22 pm	#18 (permalink) (top)
Impenitent Hot Lava Posts: 1,859	good for you, I am sure you knew all about the inner workings of the IRA and exactly who the 300 members were simply because you lived an hour away... "I really like this jacket, but the sleeves are much too long..." insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results...

Mar 28, 2004, 04:37 pm	#19 (permalink) (top)
dotcoma Volcanic Erupter Posts: 3,154	If you read any of Gerry Adams' books or even stuff written from a British/Loyalists point of view, it's pretty much agreed upon that the IRA consists of a very small, loose network of prominant Irish-Catholic families. Yes, there might be more than 300. Maybe less. But if you ask either side or anybody that knows anything about The Troubles the number of active IRA members, they will give you roughly the same figure. You said "loads". Three hundred people is hardly "loads". Are their more members that you know of? If so, how many? How many do you consider "loads"?

Mar 28, 2004, 05:56 pm	#20 (permalink) (top)
Impenitent Hot Lava Posts: 1,859	I said loads of christian terrorists... the IRA is not the only christian terrorist organization... "I really like this jacket, but the sleeves are much too long..." insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results...