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Old Dec 15, 2005, 11:53 pm   #21 (permalink) (top)
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GBA, I am well aware of the flaws of Wikipedia as a source, I imagine, perhaps incorrectly, more so than you. However, what wikipedia says or not, Islam is an Abrahamic religion and any suggestion to the contrary false.

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Old Dec 16, 2005, 12:30 am   #22 (permalink) (top)
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GodBlessAmerica..."Islam is an Abrahamic religion, as are Christianity and Judaism"...So you are denying this as fact?
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Old Dec 16, 2005, 03:13 am   #23 (permalink) (top)
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C'mon guys, play fair,

don't introduce a shade of grey into GBA's little black and white world

it might burst his BS balloon.



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Old Dec 16, 2005, 01:13 pm   #24 (permalink) (top)
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Swedish girls Malin and Amanda were on their way to a party on New Year's Eve when they were assaulted, raped and beaten half to death by four Somali immigrants.

Similar incidents are reported with shocking frequency, to the point where some observers fear that law and order is completely breaking down in the country. The number of rape charges in Sweden has tripled in just above twenty years. Rape cases involving children under the age of 15 are six - 6 - times as common today as they were a generation ago. Most other kinds of violent crime have rapidly increased, too. Instability is spreading to most urban and suburban areas.

Some Muslim immigrants admit their bias quite openly. An Islamic Mufti in Copenhagen sparked a political outcry after publicly declaring that women who refuse to wear headscarves are "asking for rape."
Apparently, he's not the only one thinking this way. “It is not as wrong raping a Swedish girl as raping an Arab girl,” says Hamid.
“The Swedish girl gets a lot of help afterwards, and she had probably f**ked before, anyway.
But the Arab girl will get problems with her family. For her, being raped is a source of shame. It is important that she retains her virginity until she marries.” It was no coincidence that it was a Swedish girl that was gang raped in Rissne – this becomes obvious from the discussion with Ali, Hamid, Abdallah and Richard.

All four have disparaging views on Swedish girls, and think this attitude is common among young men with immigrant background. “It is far too easy to get a Swedish whore…… girl, I mean;” says Hamid, and laughs over his own choice of words. “Many immigrant boys have Swedish girlfriends when they are teenagers. But when they get married, they get a proper woman from their own culture who has never been with a boy. That’s what I am going to do. I don’t have too much respect for Swedish girls. I guess you can say they get f**ked to pieces.”

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles...e.asp?ID=20552

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Boy, isn't it just something how those Muslims blend right into other societies like that.

Their respect for women never ceases to amaze me as well.

The way they think it is OK to be sexual predators, whores themselves and yet expect some virgin bride is laughable if it weren't so tragic IMO.

We can know them by their fruits I guess.
The increase in rape charges being brought forward may be explained by Sweden having a modern, liberal culture that encourages women to come forward to the police when they have been attacked, rather than staying at home ashamed of it. It is impossible to claim with any certainty that the increased number of cases has anything to do with increased number of incidences.

I find it most amusing that the new right wing clique Volconvo has attracted can on one page denounce Muslims as murderous, raping terrorists who should all be slaughtered and whose culture is so far out of line with ours that they cannot co-exist with our society, while on the next page praise how the Iraqi people have been brought democracy, and how it will be a beacon to the rest of the Islamic world. If their culture is so far away from ours, what makes you think democracy will work there? If they are all murderous rapists, why do you want the power to be with the people, when a dictator can control their savage ways? Why do you want to risk the lives of our soldiers for a people who, in your eyes, are clearly barbarians deserving of death?

Your a bunch of hypocritical priapisms.


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Old Dec 16, 2005, 03:59 pm   #25 (permalink) (top)
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(religion of peace alert)
Maybe it should be (Right wing rag mag and narrow-minded racist bigotry alert)

frontpagemag? Thats laughable man.


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Old Dec 16, 2005, 09:03 pm   #26 (permalink) (top)
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GodBlessAmerica..."Islam is an Abrahamic religion, as are Christianity and Judaism"...So you are denying this as fact?
The Islamic Religion is about another god, not the god of Moses and Christians.

You don't see Jews and Christians in any societies they run performing human rights violations on their own women as a way of life do you?
This is a cult started by the child molester Mohamed.


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Old Dec 16, 2005, 09:36 pm   #27 (permalink) (top)
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what a load of crap.. what do you call the inquisition? what about shit like the salem witch trials? there is NOTHING inherent in christians that makes them any better than muslims, even though bigots may want to wish that to be true.

every religion goes through its dark ages.. christians went through their own, now it's the muslims' turn.


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Old Dec 16, 2005, 09:50 pm   #28 (permalink) (top)
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You don't see Jews and Christians in any societies they run performing human rights violations on their own women as a way of life do you?
As a rule, of late, Jews and Christians focus their human rights violations on ethnic minorities without regard to gender.


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Old Dec 16, 2005, 11:40 pm   #29 (permalink) (top)
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what a load of crap.. what do you call the inquisition? what about shit like the salem witch trials? there is NOTHING inherent in christians that makes them any better than muslims, even though bigots may want to wish that to be true.

every religion goes through its dark ages.. christians went through their own, now it's the muslims' turn.

Hey GBA, did you see Bishop, he admitted the Muslims were on the rampage today.
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Old Dec 17, 2005, 12:04 am   #30 (permalink) (top)
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Every religion goes through its dark ages and moved on. Islam decided to stay put.
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Old Dec 17, 2005, 12:15 am   #31 (permalink) (top)
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how long has islam been in its dark ages?

christianity stayed mired in the dark ages for centuries...

please, do a little research before posting such ignorance. it brings down the level of debate here.


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Old Dec 17, 2005, 01:32 am   #32 (permalink) (top)
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The Islamic Religion is about another god, not the god of Moses and Christians.

You don't see Jews and Christians in any societies they run performing human rights violations on their own women as a way of life do you?
This is a cult started by the child molester Mohamed.
They are believers in the same God, they just do not believe in all the more recent and alleged prophets and Muhammad's mission was to read what Allah had ordered and ordained, nothing more.

• Moses, David, Jesus, and others were prophets sent from Allah
• God delivered the Torah to Moses, but it was corrupted by the Jews
• God delivered the Gospel to Jesus, but it was distorted by the apostles

"Muslims believe in all Messengers of Allah without any
discrimination among them, as every known nation has a Warner
or messenger from Allah. They were chosen by God to teach
humanity and deliver His Divine message. The Qur'an mentions
the name of some of them including Jews including Adam, Noah,
Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Job, Moses, Aaron,
David, Solomon, Elias, Jonah, John the Baptist, and Jesus
(peace be upon them).
" - IslamicWeb.com

(Note: I am not defending extremists within their religions, just pointing out ignorance)
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Old Dec 17, 2005, 07:23 am   #33 (permalink) (top)
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Every religion goes through its dark ages and moved on. Islam decided to stay put.
Are people who think like this deliberately ignorant or does it just come naturally when you are born in a country with limited history of it's own?

The Islamic world was a highly developed and sophisticated civilization for centuries and remained so under the Ottoman empire right up until the beginning of the twentieth century.


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Old Dec 17, 2005, 09:14 am   #34 (permalink) (top)
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Swedish girls Malin and Amanda were on their way to a party on New Year's Eve when they were assaulted, raped and beaten half to death by four Somali immigrants.

...Some Muslim immigrants admit their bias quite openly. An Islamic Mufti in Copenhagen sparked a political outcry after publicly declaring that women who refuse to wear headscarves are "asking for rape."

...Apparently, he's not the only one thinking this way. “It is not as wrong raping a Swedish girl as raping an Arab girl,” says Hamid.
“The Swedish girl gets a lot of help afterwards, and she had probably f**ked before, anyway.
But the Arab girl will get problems with her family. For her, being raped is a source of shame. It is important that she retains her virginity until she marries.” It was no coincidence that it was a Swedish girl that was gang raped in Rissne – this becomes obvious from the discussion with Ali, Hamid, Abdallah and Richard.

All four have disparaging views on Swedish girls, and think this attitude is common among young men with immigrant background. “It is far too easy to get a Swedish whore…… girl, I mean;” says Hamid, and laughs over his own choice of words. “Many immigrant boys have Swedish girlfriends when they are teenagers. But when they get married, they get a proper woman from their own culture who has never been with a boy. That’s what I am going to do. I don’t have too much respect for Swedish girls. I guess you can say they get f**ked to pieces.”

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles...e.asp?ID=20552

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Boy, isn't it just something how those Muslims blend right into other societies like that.

Their respect for women never ceases to amaze me as well.

The way they think it is OK to be sexual predators, whores themselves and yet expect some virgin bride is laughable if it weren't so tragic IMO.

We can know them by their fruits I guess.
It all comes down to culture and tradition; the treatment of women in Muslim/Arab countries, sparked by religion, has remained unchanged for centuries. Only education can change this.

I live in the UK for many months of the year, and so a documentary I watched last night will not have been seen by some of you guy's. The documentary was about India, and it's custom in many area's regarding witchcraft and murder. A young teenage Indian boy had watched the demise of three of his brothers, and his Father from a 'mysterious fever', which occurred over a period of less than two years. His Mother, I believe, had died when he was young.

The young boy believed that his Aunt had caused these deaths through witchcraft, and so he, in turn, murdered his Aunt in an horrific way, by twisting off her head, after cutting all around her neck beforehand. He immediately set off for the Police station, carrying his Aunt's head in his hands as one would a cauliflower. It later turned out that his brothers, and Father had actually died from tuberculosis, an extremely infectious disease.

The point is that this quiet, shy teenager, steeped in the tradition of witchcraft since birth and with little, if any education, truly believed that he was revenging the deaths of his sibblings and Father. I'm not condoning for one second what happened to the Swedish girls, nor implying that the Somali immigrants didn't know that what they were doing was wrong... I'm merely pointing out that they are taught from birth that women are properties and commodities, to be dispensed or disposed of at will. Only education can change this primitive way of thinking.

With regard to the Somali immigrants... they knew that whatever their traditions, beliefs etc outside their own country/religion, were not the policies of Swedish law. I sincerely hope they recieve their just punishments.


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Old Dec 17, 2005, 09:14 am   #35 (permalink) (top)
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Yeah, but they don't like us, and so that means they're big meanie stinkheads. And they're mean to girls. So let's go kill them all. Becuase we're tthe best! Woo!

Hey Zealot, make sure you take these lines out of context and quote me as now supporting your war and you view of America. Better yet, give me some incomprehensible post that ends with "right on."


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Old Dec 17, 2005, 02:07 pm   #36 (permalink) (top)
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It all comes down to culture and tradition; the treatment of women in Muslim/Arab countries, sparked by religion, has remained unchanged for centuries. Only education can change this.

I live in the UK for many months of the year, and so a documentary I watched last night will not have been seen by some of you guy's. The documentary was about India, and it's custom in many area's regarding witchcraft and murder. A young teenage Indian boy had watched the demise of three of his brothers, and his Father from a 'mysterious fever', which occurred over a period of less than two years. His Mother, I believe, had died when he was young.

The young boy believed that his Aunt had caused these deaths through witchcraft, and so he, in turn, murdered his Aunt in an horrific way, by twisting off her head, after cutting all around her neck beforehand. He immediately set off for the Police station, carrying his Aunt's head in his hands as one would a cauliflower. It later turned out that his brothers, and Father had actually died from tuberculosis, an extremely infectious disease.

The point is that this quiet, shy teenager, steeped in the tradition of witchcraft since birth and with little, if any education, truly believed that he was revenging the deaths of his sibblings and Father. I'm not condoning for one second what happened to the Swedish girls, nor implying that the Somali immigrants didn't know that what they were doing was wrong... I'm merely pointing out that they are taught from birth that women are properties and commodities, to be dispensed or disposed of at will. Only education can change this primitive way of thinking.

With regard to the Somali immigrants... they knew that whatever their traditions, beliefs etc outside their own country/religion, were not the policies of Swedish law. I sincerely hope they recieve their just punishments.

Don't suppose they mentioned in the documentary that India is a predominantly HINDU country and happens to be the worlds largest democracy?


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Old Dec 17, 2005, 10:13 pm   #37 (permalink) (top)
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Down south a decade or so was totally Democrat country.
Pro war can be good. Depends on what the issues for the war are. In our case, the war on terror is good.
Pro death, well liberals do like to kill the innocent in abortions and conservatives like to kill the guilty in war, I guess that is a difference.
We have to deal with everyone in these Middle East countries including the 22 year olds, and if they refuse to give up their radicalized behavior in cutting off heads, blowing up innocent people and killing those who refuse to convert to their false god, then we will respond as needed.
You have a good point about not many jobs existing in the Middle East. Poverty is the most consistant fruit of Islam. Death and human rights violations against their women would be following close behind poverty as a problem.
There is no difference when killing an unborn child, or killing the "guilty". In the Ten Commandments it says, "Thou Shall Not Kill". It doesn't have any exceptions anywhere about allowing the killing of "the guilty". And as I understand it they worship "Allah" which is Islamic for God.


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how long has islam been in its dark ages?

christianity stayed mired in the dark ages for centuries...

please, do a little research before posting such ignorance. it brings down the level of debate here.
Since the industrial revolution, only Islam and Africa in general have remained in the dark ages IMO.


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It all comes down to culture and tradition; the treatment of women in Muslim/Arab countries, sparked by religion, has remained unchanged for centuries. Only education can change this.
Islam rebukes all education that doesn't come from one of their demon possessed religious leaders. So the women have and will continue to be treated worse than cow pies in Islamic societies.
Human rights violations are normal for that culture.
It is a cancer so for to this world.


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Islam rebukes all education that doesn't come from one of their demon possessed religious leaders. So the women have and will continue to be treated worse than cow pies in Islamic societies. Human rights violations are normal for that culture. It is a cancer so for to this world.
And what about Christians who actively try and get evolution removed from school curriculums because it violates their beliefs? Or what about the Christians who try and get sexual education removed from school curriculums because they feel it violates their beliefs?


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