Thais Know That Gun Ownership Makes Good Sense

[G. Adams]

A just society requires arms to keep it so. The moment you take your pressure off, the moment government starts taking liberties. For instance, if you look at social policies up to the 1970's, social policy was very slowly moving left wing. But by then everyone was 'hey, i'm not doing too badly. your gonna tax me labour/democrat? i've voting tory/republican'. And then the government starts going right wing........and tada, we are right were we were in the 1900's.

[combatrhino]

Originally posted by G. Adams@09-18-2003 10:16 AM I live in Middlesbrough, Heroin capital of Europe. (its dirt cheap here, like a big market for all dealers). So this isn't the safest place to live

have you seen trainspotting? what an incredible movie... sorry, off topic. *slap*

[RebelWithanAK]

Your model, G, is actually cyclical in nature. We democrats here in the US only get leftists in power right after hardline republicans mess up royally, and we get hardline republicans when complacency breeds moderate dems. I count Clinton as the fourth cycle since the depression. Why, if you want to reform the system, don't you do it at the top of the cycle, not the bottom? After all, if the only problem is a lack of judgement on the behalf of the people involved in terms of where their tax dollars are being spent, then isn't education the key? My grandfather worked for the CCC - it's plain to see that taxes aren't inherently bad.

[G. Adams]

Yes I've seen Trainspotting. Now if you combine it with Human Traffic, you know how everyone in Middlesbrough. If your not a smack head, your a pill popper or a thursday night binger.

I know its cyclical. I havn't studied countries in much depth other than the US and the UK, and both systems go left when the right screws it up, when people are okay again they vote right wing, who then screw it up....

For gods sake people can you not see a pattern emerging?

[G. Adams]

Although I don't see education as the key, if everybody was just as well educated they would still pay the street sweeper shit wages despite the PhD in physics, I see it as entirely neccesary for democracy. For example, the US 2000 election. You gotta see past charisma here, Gore may be boring but he isn't an idiot either.

Actually, US elections in general. Now I was looking at some past platforms for US political parties and my god it's depressingly funny. You have planks like 'We're going to make America great again!".

....

OMG! You would be laughed off the stage in the UK for that crap. We have "We will raise income tax by 1% across the board to raise £8billion to be spent on the NHS" Thats a fucking plank dammit.

It just shows how much goes on charisma in the US that people can get away with such unspecific information. In the UK our parties produce manifestos with core pledges, that if the government don't do they will be pissed on by the press, and rightfully so since they were elected on them.

It could also be because of gridlock. Anything you promise in the elections will be shot down by the opposition in the US anyway, while if any government actually lost a vote there would be an election a week later in the UK.

[Paavo]

Wow, a nice and working democracy you got in the US...
Elect him because he spends the most money on blingbling in his election campaign, then if you don't like him, you can always shoot him.

Come on, how come every other democratic country can live without guns (in the sense of everyone having the legal right to own one?
That's the lamest excuse I've heard in a while.

The only reason I can think of is that the government loves the money that comes from selling weapons, and the manifested firearm - mentality in the US.

Now I do understand that - "everyone else's got one, I'm in a worse position if I don't have one" - thing. But that doesn't make it right. It has to start somewhere.

It won't though...they're just such a damn good mean of income. *rolls eyes and pukes*

[RebelWithanAK]

Originally posted by G. Adams@09-18-2003 09:59 PM Although I don't see education as the key, if everybody was just as well educated they would still pay the street sweeper shit wages despite the PhD in physics, I see it as entirely neccesary for democracy. For example, the US 2000 election. You gotta see past charisma here, Gore may be boring but he isn't an idiot either.

Heh, either you have a poor idea of what education entails, or you've inadvertently pointed out that the US is following the stead of Roman decline - no new philosophers, but plenty of good engineers...

[GreatWyrm of Babylon]

Every totalitarian government that ever existed started with the "there ought to be a law" mentality. Of course, you only want to limit someone else's freedom, not your own........

[Anarchist Patriot]

Originally posted by ColWTH@09-16-2003 10:16 PM Even the Thais know that gun ownership just makes SENSE! ___________________________________ Thais shoot down Thaksin proposal to ban guns BANGKOK - A proposal by Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra to make Thailand a gun-free society over the next five to six years has met with a poor response as more than 78 per cent of Thais want the right to hold firearms to protect themselves. This is despite the open expression of support to ban firearms by most liberals and the media in Thailand. A poll conducted by the Ramkamhaeng University found that 78.3 per cent of respondents felt they should be allowed to own guns - to protect themselves and their families from burglaries and robberies, especially while travelling. full story http://straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/asia/stor...,210226,00.html?

I have not heard that Thailand is all that much a law abiding society.

In Thailand everyone knows kung fu so I think guns arnt all that necessary anyway.

[indierockboy]

Originally posted by Anarchist Patriot+09-20-2003 07:28 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Anarchist Patriot @ 09-20-2003 07:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-ColWTH@09-16-2003 10:16 PM Even the Thais know that gun ownership just makes SENSE! ___________________________________ Thais shoot down Thaksin proposal to ban guns BANGKOK - A proposal by Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra to make Thailand a gun-free society over the next five to six years has met with a poor response as more than 78 per cent of Thais want the right to hold firearms to protect themselves. This is despite the open expression of support to ban firearms by most liberals and the media in Thailand. A poll conducted by the Ramkamhaeng University found that 78.3 per cent of respondents felt they should be allowed to own guns - to protect themselves and their families from burglaries and robberies, especially while travelling. full story http://straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/asia/stor...,210226,00.html?

I have not heard that Thailand is all that much a law abiding society.

In Thailand everyone knows kung fu so I think guns arnt all that necessary anyway. [/b][/quote]
every azn totally knows kung fu lol wtf??111@