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Major Billy · Mar 20, 2004, 04:33 pm

By now you've probably all seen the attacks by Cheney and others, claiming that Sen. Kerry is 'weak' on defense by listing individual votes against military spending. (while not mentioning votes in favor)

In fact, it was Defense Secretary Dick Cheney who:

Canceled the A-12 stealth fighter, not because it was no longer needed but because the Republican administration had mismanaged the program so.

Cut the B-2 Stealth Bomber program, first to 75 aircraft, then to 20. (Which raised the final cost to more than $2 billion a plane)

And let's not forget Cheney's memorable service in Vietnam.

Slapjak · Mar 20, 2004, 05:37 pm

Whats the story behind the picture in Vietnam?

PatrickHenry · Apr 9, 2004, 02:14 pm

Yeah, I don't get it. The picture I mean...
I heard Cheney had "better things to do" in the Vietnam days
As for Kerry and defense, who is the big military threat these days?

Apr 9, 2004, 07:22 pm

China could be considered the next BIG military threat. China managed to purchase some US nuclear secrets a few years ago. I'm afraid those technologies will be pointing against us sometime in the next decade. We will still be fighting global terrorism when the RoC decides they want Taiwan back and no longer feel they have to back down. What then? Will Kerry be able to stand up to China with all the weapons he voted against? I doubt it. I also, don't consider his Vietnam tour of four months much to brag about. He deployed, got three scratches and went home. Big deal.

PatrickHenry · Apr 11, 2004, 05:19 am

Yeah, china is worrisome militarily. Even worse is the balance of payments deficit to those commies. How come they're making so much money off us Americans. Is it Wal-Mart?

Back to the thread: Cheney hypocrisy-- he's really from Texas and said he was from Wyoming in order to run with Bush, huh? Wouldn't want to violate the Constitution...

PatrickHenry · Apr 12, 2004, 06:21 pm

</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (AlecBaldwin666,)
Kerry has the typical ultra-liberal voting pattern against the military and intelligence spending that one would expect of Boston leftist.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>
Is this thread about Kerry or Cheney?

Mar 20, 2004, 04:33 pm	#1 (permalink) (top)
Major Billy Molten Ash Posts: 90	By now you've probably all seen the attacks by Cheney and others, claiming that Sen. Kerry is 'weak' on defense by listing individual votes against military spending. (while not mentioning votes in favor) In fact, it was Defense Secretary Dick Cheney who: Canceled the A-12 stealth fighter, not because it was no longer needed but because the Republican administration had mismanaged the program so. Cut the B-2 Stealth Bomber program, first to 75 aircraft, then to 20. (Which raised the final cost to more than $2 billion a plane) And let's not forget Cheney's memorable service in Vietnam. >>>--~(ô¿ô)~--->

Mar 20, 2004, 05:37 pm	#2 (permalink) (top)
Slapjak FARMHOUSE Location: Florida State University Posts: 33	Whats the story behind the picture in Vietnam? Get correct views of life, and learn to see the world in its true light. It will enable you to live pleasantly, to do good, and, when summoned away, to leave without regret. -Robert E. Lee

Apr 9, 2004, 02:14 pm	#3 (permalink) (top)
PatrickHenry 9/11: Inside Job Location: Hawai'i, Big Island Posts: 10,438	Yeah, I don't get it. The picture I mean... I heard Cheney had "better things to do" in the Vietnam days As for Kerry and defense, who is the big military threat these days? "Arms in the hands of the citizens may be used at individual discretion for the defense of the country, the overthrow of tyranny or private self-defense." -- John Adams

Apr 11, 2004, 05:19 am	#5 (permalink) (top)
PatrickHenry 9/11: Inside Job Location: Hawai'i, Big Island Posts: 10,438	Yeah, china is worrisome militarily. Even worse is the balance of payments deficit to those commies. How come they're making so much money off us Americans. Is it Wal-Mart? Back to the thread: Cheney hypocrisy-- he's really from Texas and said he was from Wyoming in order to run with Bush, huh? Wouldn't want to violate the Constitution... "Arms in the hands of the citizens may be used at individual discretion for the defense of the country, the overthrow of tyranny or private self-defense." -- John Adams

Apr 12, 2004, 06:21 pm	#6 (permalink) (top)
PatrickHenry 9/11: Inside Job Location: Hawai'i, Big Island Posts: 10,438	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (AlecBaldwin666,) Kerry has the typical ultra-liberal voting pattern against the military and intelligence spending that one would expect of Boston leftist.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> Is this thread about Kerry or Cheney? "Arms in the hands of the citizens may be used at individual discretion for the defense of the country, the overthrow of tyranny or private self-defense." -- John Adams

Apr 9, 2004, 07:22 pm	#4 (permalink) (top)
dave654 Guest Posts: n/a	China could be considered the next BIG military threat. China managed to purchase some US nuclear secrets a few years ago. I'm afraid those technologies will be pointing against us sometime in the next decade. We will still be fighting global terrorism when the RoC decides they want Taiwan back and no longer feel they have to back down. What then? Will Kerry be able to stand up to China with all the weapons he voted against? I doubt it. I also, don't consider his Vietnam tour of four months much to brag about. He deployed, got three scratches and went home. Big deal.