Iraqi women take up arms!

[Zealot]

A small band of Iraqi women have taken up arms and is prepared to fight back. Hey hey, here is freedom in action, God bless America for bringing this freedom to their land.

Employed by a private security company, the women ride in the front passenger seat posing as ordinary housewives when the comnpay's drivers transport customers around the city in nondescript vehicles.

"Before I got into this, I was like a normal female; when I heard bullets, I would hide." Now, I feel like a man. When I hear a bullet, I want to find out where it came from," she sat confortably with an AK-47 assault rifles across her legs, red toenails poking out from a pair of stacked sandals.

"I have seen a lot of innocent people die," she said, staring out with intense black eyes. "We are trying to defend ourselves and defend each other. I am doing this for my country".

How many American ladies would do this? Would they just sit back and cuss out the President. Edited from the Washington Times By Sharon Behn Nov. 6

[CoffeeSaint]

Wow, where to start? My . . . brain . . . freezing . . .
First, let's discuss the Iraqi women taking up arms. Don't you see it as a sad state of affairs when civilians are forced to carry AK-47's across their legs? How can this possibly be construed as a positive sign of freedom, when even the most powerless individuals -- which women assuredly are in fundamentalist Muslim societies -- are in such constant danger that they have to carry weapons? Wouldn't freedom, and stability, and an effective government enable people to NOT carry guns while posing as "ordinary housewives" in "nondescript vehicles?"
Second: when you ask such a pointed question about women taking up arms in the U.S., you are ignoring every women who fights, and who has fought, on the field of battle (a far greater number than those enlisted in the military). You are ignoring every woman who has served in the military, in every branch, in every capacity. You are ignoring every woman like Valerie Plame, or Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice, who help to defend our country through intelligence gathering, diplomacy, and other related activities. You're even ignoring the female members of the NRA, which is a mistake -- they're armed. Often quite heavily.
Third: When you imply that American ladies, given a situation similar to Iraq's, would simply "sit back and cuss out the president," you are insulting every woman who lives, American citizens or no. Including, I might add, every woman who considers herself a staunch Republican -- you know, your own side? -- since you're implying that all women would cuss out Bush. I willl step out of the way so the women can now tear you to shreds; I just wanted to point it out.
I'll say this: good for those Iraqi women for having the courage to act against generations of enforced subservience, and take real, physical power into their own hands. When they start gunning down the tribal councils that order gang rapes, http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/2089624.stm
I will cheer.
Watch, all of you: if Zealot takes a quote from this, it'll be the first line, where I said, "My brain is freezing." I'll bet he'll ignore the rest completely.

[Rave7pt0]

Zealot, I think you shoudl go to Iraq and help them.

[Boetie]

Zealot posts: Employed by a private security company

Notice the word, "Employed?"

This would make them mercenaries. Given the condition Iraq is in thanks to the moron Bush Jr whom flattened the entire country just to take out Saddam.

Bush Jr: Let's take out Joe Blo

Sycophants: Sure thing

Bush Jr: We'll destroy the entire country just to get Joe Blo

The entire country has been destroyed leaving millions without food, water, and jobs. Women become mercenaries just to feed their family and Zealot thinks this is success!

[grandpa]

Quote by: Boetie Notice the word, "Employed?" This would make them mercenaries.

I'm still scratching my head over the point of Zealot's thread. How is a state of fear, panic and destruction a positive sign?

Grandpa h.

[RickSp]

A group of mercenaries hire desparate women to sit in the front of seat of cars, effectively acting as a human shields, and Zealot thinks that this a good thing?

Well, it is Zealot. What more need be said?

[Zealot]

[quote=CoffeeSaint]Wow, where to start? My . . . brain . . .

Of course these women are not cowards, they are intent on defending themselves that's for sure. What would you do in the same predicament, sit down and cry?

Go ladies Go!

Zealot

[grandpa]

Quote by: Zealot How many American ladies would do this? Would they just sit back and cuss out the President.

This, too, is a weird angle. Somehow Iraqis are now superior to Americans? I thought it was the other way around for you flag-wavers.

Grandpa h.

[Zealot]

Quote by: Rave7pt0 Zealot, I think you shoudl go to Iraq and help them.

Thank you Rav for the invitation, if I could I would go in a heart beat. You wouldn't catch me being a coward, no way!

[Zealot]

Quote by: grandpa This, too, is a weird angle. Somehow Iraqis are now superior to Americans? I thought it was the other way around for you flag-wavers. Grandpa h.

You betcha Grampa, I wave my American flag proudly and proudly stand for what it means. Looks like your thinking had better catch up with your keyboard, huh?

Zealot, "Flag waver" thank you for the compliment sir, but you could call that repulsive, huh?

[grandpa]

Quote by: Zealot You betcha Grampa, I wave my American flag proudly and proudly stand for what it means. Looks like your thinking had better catch up with your keyboard, huh? Zealot, "Flag waver" thank you for the compliment sir, but you could call that repulsive, huh?

Well, you didn't actually address my full comment. I was trying to understand why you now think Iraqi women are superior to American women.

Grandpa h.

[Zealot]

Quote by: RickSp A group of mercenaries hire desparate women to sit in the front of seat of cars, effectively acting as a human shields, and Zealot thinks that this a good thing? Well, it is Zealot. What more need be said?

Of course it is good, first of all they are not cowards. Then you must consider who were the first people killed when the shot heard round the world was fired in our war for independence, remember sir?

Zealot, Go Irqai Patriots Go!

[Zealot]

[quote=grandpa]Well, you didn't actually address my full comment. I was trying to understand why you now think Iraqi women are superior to American women.

Grandpa h.[/QUOTE

The thinking comes from your keys and your lack of understanding. See if you can see anything good in the Iraqis and the Americans and then tell me who is better.

Cowardice urges one (in order to vindicate itself) to convince others that flight is not only prudent, but right. It is right to surrender!

Zealot, try harder sir!

[grandpa]

Quote by: Zealot Of course it is good, first of all they are not cowards. Then you must consider who were the first people killed when the shot heard round the world was fired in our war for independence, remember sir? Zealot, Go Irqai Patriots Go!

Anyone can pick up a gun in any country for any reason. That doesn't mean it's a positive thing.

Grandpa h.

[grandpa]

Quote by: Zealot The thinking comes from your keys and your lack of understanding. See if you can see anything good in the Iraqis and the Americans and then tell me who is better.

I don't think either country is better. In fact, both have been acting tyrannically over the years.

Quote by: Zealot Cowardice urges one (in order to vindicate itself) to convince others that flight is not only prudent, but right. It is right to surrender!

I haven't surrendered to anyone. I oppose any blindly obedient, flag-waving, religious-based violent thought.

Grandpa h.

[Zealot]

Quote by: grandpa Anyone can pick up a gun in any country for any reason. That doesn't mean it's a positive thing. Grandpa h.

Here again you make a blanket statement against guns without thinking. You must list the good things the gun has done, can you do that or are you being dishonest and unfair.
Cowardice reasons, it calulates...

Zealot, in the name of honesty

[grandpa]

Quote by: Zealot Here again you make a blanket statement against guns without thinking. You must list the good things the gun has done, can you do that or are being dishonest and unfair. Cowardice reasons, it calulates... Zealot, in the name of honesty

I didn't even make a statement against guns, Zealot. I was making a point about violent behavior. Anyone can pick up a gun at any time in any place. So what? Does that guaranatee Iraq is going to solve its problems? Not by a long shot. That's what conflict is, in fact.

Grandpa h.

[Zealot]

Quote by: grandpa I don't think either country is better. In fact, both have been acting tyrannically over the years. I haven't surrendered to anyone. I oppose any blindly obedient, flag-waving, religious-based violent thought. Grandpa h.

See there you go again with negativity. Each statement bore an outlook on the bad, the negative, right? "Both have been acting....and blind obedience". Can't you see that was unfair because Iraq and America has done much good and not all people are blind. Is it difficult for you to just once be honest and tell a little about the other side of the story?

Yes, you have surrendered to negativity, right?

Cowardice bids one to live as a slave rather than fight and die as a free man!

Zealot, like your spice

[Zealot]

Quote by: grandpa I didn't even make a statement against guns, Zealot. I was making a point about violent behavior. Anyone can pick up a gun at any time in any place. So what? Does that guaranatee Iraq is going to solve its problems? Not by a long shot. That's what conflict is, in fact. Grandpa h.

There you go again Gramps, "anyone can pick up a gun.......is that positive" but is that negative either? Not all picking up of a gun is negative, right?
Cowardice will not solve the problem either, will it?

Cowardice is the forsaker of women and children.

Zealot, havin fun.

[Sonart]

Quote by: CoffeeSaint Wow, where to start? My . . . brain . . . freezing . . . First, let's discuss the Iraqi women taking up arms. Don't you see it as a sad state of affairs when civilians are forced to carry AK-47's across their legs?

LOL!! Yeah, that was my first reaction. This is a good thing??? Things are going SOOOO well in Iraq that now women are taking up arms? Interesting world you live in, Zealot. :rolleyes:

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