Bush breakdown over indictments?

[SteveA]

I saw a couple articles claiming tensions are high in the White House and that Bush might be on the verge of a breakdown. These seem to originate from Sherman Skolnick, though I didn't search for other sources so don't know how accruate the information might be wanted to post them in case there are other sources saying something similar.

http://www.arcticbeacon.com/articles...8131/36083.htm

"Fitzgerald Indictments Could be Coming Down Today; Bush Acting Like Stalin in 1953, Claiming A Foreign Cabal Is Out to End His Presidency
Sherman Skolnick, the first to report on the Bush administration indictments months ago, claims Bush may be on the verge of a psychatric breakdown. He also claims Bush is saying 'the Jews, the French and a foreign cabal' are out to destroy him.
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http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=1445
(PT 1) CONSTITUTIONAL NIGHT FRIGHT

Saturday, October 22, 2005 - FreeMarketNews.com

PART ONE OF TWO

ANOTHER IN THE “PARANOIA, AMERICAN STYLE” OCCASIONAL SERIES

Who slept last night? “Conspiracy”-oriented reporters were out in force (well, at least three of them) though there was seemingly no way of corroborating their more alarmist announcements. The duo of “Sherman and Bloom” – an investigative radio team receiving support from PATRIOT RADIO (Web, Shortwave, AM-FM Broadcasts For New World Order News) were promoting a “cloakanddagger” exclusive written by Sherman Skolnick and posted in the very early morning.

Entitled “U.S. Nervous Breakdown!” it claimed that Special Prosecutor Fitzgerald had actually made his indictments available to the administration but that “U.S. Attorney Alberto Gonzales had resigned rather than serve them. … [He] was shocked while examining 22 indictments from Federal Grand Juries apparently including Bush himself. Gonzales swiftly disqualified himself refusing Bush's order to on the spot firing of Patrick Fitzgerald. … Bush ordered FBI to make fake Capitol "terrorist" scare to force evacuation. Democrats, however, refused to leave. Member of Joint Chiefs of Staff says he wants to go to arrest Commander-in-Chief Bush for treason. But Bush loyalists in top Military brass threaten to arrest brave senior General who is supported by an Admiral. Some in military, nevertheless, ordering monopoly press to quickly "tell the truth now" or suffer dire consequences.”

The Sherman report was a slightly later version of a report by the controversial Tom Flocco, who is also supported by PATRIOT RADIO (and thus one story probably cannot be treated as independent corroboration of another). Flocco’s story claims that, “Today, Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald handed over 22 indictments to Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez, accusing President George W. Bush, Vice President Richard Cheney and others of espionage, obstruction of justice, perjury and a variety of other charges in the matter of the CIA/Valerie Plame leak-gate case. … According to intelligence sources who spoke with federal whistleblowers Thomas Heneghan and Stewart Webb, Bush then ordered Gonzalez to fire Fitzgerald and have the indictments quashed and sealed. Gonzalez refused to release the indictments which have been handed down by the grand jury and ordered served by a judge, subjecting the Attorney General to additional charges of obstruction of justice, the sources said.”

Flocco was also reporting early this morning that “Bush-Cheney CIA/Plame case indictments released this morning” – and was slugging the deck “developing” since there was nothing to go after the headline. A quick check of some other sites showed nobody else seemed to be carrying anything related to the above two articles. Rense.com, which itself has been cited for misinformation by no less than the Bush State Department (a cite - to his credit - he's proud to display on his homepage) often finds fault with some of Flocco’s more “extreme” reporting.

CONTINUED, PART TWO
staff reports - Free-Market News Network"

[SteveA]

Does anyone remember this from a while back?

Bush proposed initiative for mental health screening
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=39078

"A sweeping mental health initiative will be unveiled by President George W Bush in July. The plan promises to integrate mentally ill patients fully into the community by providing "services in the community, rather than institutions," according to a March 2004 progress report entitled New Freedom Initiative (http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/ne.../toc-2004.html). While some praise the plan's goals, others say it protects the profits of drug companies at the expense of the public.

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Poetic irony?

[Milton Bradley]

I remember that Steve.


Even if Bush would allow himself to be "screened", the information would be kept from us in the name of national security. So I think the point is lost on anybody who isn't critical of Bush, of course, that true for just about any accusation leveled at the President these days. He has a faithful following many like to call the Bush apologists. I just say Fedayeen Bush.

[ericsp23]

[He] was shocked while examining 22 indictments from Federal Grand Juries apparently including Bush himself.

This causes me to question the validity of the entire story. I don't think that a sitting president can be indicted. Any criminal activity on the part of the president would be dealt with through impeachment hearings in the US Congress.

[Scribbler1]

I don't know about indicted, but I hear he may figure into one or more of the cases against the other guys.
I don't see anything happening to Bush over this or anything else. No matter what, "plausible deniability"will kick in and with the right wingers screaming about Clinton the whole thing will be forgotten. Rove and scooter will probably get their obligatory Medals of Freedom from Bush, get a pat on the back for a "great job"and go on the lecture/talk show/book signing/liberal bashing circuit.

[northtexan]

Quote by: SteveA Does anyone remember this from a while back? Bush proposed initiative for mental health screening http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=39078 "A sweeping mental health initiative will be unveiled by President George W Bush in July. The plan promises to integrate mentally ill patients fully into the community by providing "services in the community, rather than institutions," according to a March 2004 progress report entitled New Freedom Initiative (http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/ne.../toc-2004.html). While some praise the plan's goals, others say it protects the profits of drug companies at the expense of the public. ..." Poetic irony?

Well, there's an old saying that might apply: it takes one to know one.

However, it also recalls to mind the old Soviet practice of using mental-health institutionalization as a tactic against dissidents. Dubya doesn't want to be restrained in use of torture; maybe he also wants a mental-health police to use against the populace. Welcome to George's Gulag!

[GodBlessAmerica]

Quote by: SteveA I saw a couple articles claiming tensions are high in the White House and that Bush might be on the verge of a breakdown.

He gave a couple of the best speeches I ever heard the other day. He is very together and on his game from what I see.

Outside of a rumor, have you seen anything in public that gives you the basis for your post here?

[grandpa]

Quote by: GodBlessAmerica He gave a couple of the best speeches I ever heard the other day. He is very together and on his game from what I see.

Actually--speechwriters, financiers and a TelePrompter really put the speech in his hands. He just mouthed the words (and probably poorly).

Grandpa h.

[SteveA]

Quote by: GodBlessAmerica He gave a couple of the best speeches I ever heard the other day. He is very together and on his game from what I see. Outside of a rumor, have you seen anything in public that gives you the basis for your post here?

No, the closest thing I've seen would just be a general detachment or single mindedness but I can't call that mentally unstable or I'd have to throw myself in with him.

But there had been a couple prior rumors I'd heard as well about him taking medication for something like this and then with the indictments floating around, and the possibilities of some resignations, I was thinking maybe there was some truth to these articles (they were both recent). It doesn't seem likely the mainstream sources would cover something like this unless it was something difficult to avoid.

Well, it could very well be a rumor started by someone without much basis in fact. I guess if it's true we'll likely find out eventually. (I wanted to see if anyone else had heard something from other sources but it doesn't look like it so it's probably just part of the rumor mill)

[Sonart]

Rumor this, rumor that... lotta rumors floatin' around here. Whether you like their politics or not, folks don't get to be President of the U.S. by being wilting daisies. Bush may be a lotta things, but he's not a folder. I think Skolnik's article is wishful thinking based on rumors and half-baked innuendo.

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[GodBlessAmerica]

Quote by: Sonart Rumor this, rumor that... lotta rumors floatin' around here. Whether you like their politics or not, folks don't get to be President of the U.S. by being wilting daisies. Bush may be a lotta things, but he's not a folder. I think Skolnik's article is wishful thinking based on rumors and half-baked innuendo. .

Amen!

[CoffeeSaint]

Whether he'll fold or not has little to do with whether he'll break; in fact, the harder it is to fold him, the likelier it is he'll snap. Not saying he will, but if he does, it will be spectacular, public -- and very, very bad. Because it will take a lot of convincing to get people to remove him, should he honestly lose it. How would we know, if he started ordering attacks of other countries, if he was being paranoid, or if he was making as much sense as he did with Iraq?
When everybody actually hates your president, how do you tell when he's being paranoid? When he already makes no sense some of the time, how do you tell when he's schizophrenic? (Heh -- want some wood?) When his actions are already based on lies and paranoia -- you get the point.