A Skull and Bones election

[PatrickHenry]

Here is a source that refers to the Hegelian dialectic in specific terms with pointed connections to the Skull & Bones: http://www.themuckraker.net/workindec11.html

A lot on the connection to the Russian Revolution and the CFR, Wall Street, and George Kennan as a traitor with a good rep.

George Kennan wrote the "authorized biography" of E. H. Harriman of (railroad fortune fame). E.H. Harriman became a member of Skull& Bones of which only 15 Yale Seniors are inducted per year. They lay nude in a coffin during the ceremony and are "born again" into the Brotherhood of Death. Their occult rituals include the use of human remains. Portions of their satanic rituals are identical to those described in John Robison's book published in 1798 called Proofs of a Conspiracy. Robison was a Professor of Natural Philosophy at Edinburgh University. Abbe Barruel's four volume study done in France in 1799 revealed like information ... These books exposed the Illuminati an organization warned about by George Washington. Their goal was to overthrow of all governments and religions and to "Run the World" through their wisemen "The Illuminati Elite." The destruction of Russia and the "creation" of the Communist Soviet Union was a special project of the American Illuminati. This was an important first step on their road to killing nations and paving the way for "their" New World Order. The co-founder of Skull & Bones ... Alphonso Taft became Secretary of War, Attorney General and as the U.S. Ambassador to Russia in the mid eighteen-eighties. Russia was targeted for major brutality via a Communist Revolution. The headquarters for the operation to make Russia Communist ... was located at 120 Broadway in downtown New York. It was the address of E.H. Harriman. Captain Sullivan's hero, George Kennan, was the hired hack of H.E. Harriman and the Wall Street Hitlers.

Not much on the Nazi connection and focuses on the Bush family but I think it gives an accurate picture of the S&B's long standing opposition to freedom.

[rmnunez]

PH, I'd never met someone who subscribed to this conspiracy theory. The "muckracker" is not a name for a credible source. There is some sense to the notion aiding Hitler would help build a bullwark to Stalin (Franco thought so too and sent a Division to help out). Bush's kin holding substantial capital investment in Germany prior to WW2 would have to be concerned over the relative strength of war-devastaded Germany and the then still expanding communist Soviet Union.

[PatrickHenry]

Heh, You want me to quote the New York Times for Skull & Bones?

Not sure what's your argument on the relative merit of financing the Third Reich vs financing the USSR. S&B financial geniuses backed them both, and profited. Any comments on the Hegelian dialectic?

[G. Adams]

The Hegelian Dialectic is to derive a synthesis of both thesis and antithesis. You could, I suppose, justify a view that the extreme right and left must war in order to create the synthesis. Personally that seems like a corruption of the theory, in the same way Nazism uses Nietzche to justify it's position. But corruption doesn't deny the plausibility of S+B holding such views.

[Hazzard]

Skull and bones is nothing. Its merly a fraternity for elites. Its the rockeffellers and the 13 satanic bloodlines that need to be discussed. IMO SnB is simply the elites volentary feeding of the concpiracy theorists to throw them off the sent.

[Lou Minotti]

So chapter 322 is a patsy? I don't buy that. They may not hold any real power within the larger construct but I can't agree that they are "nothing". Was Vietnam "nothing"?

[Hazzard]

No you misinterpret what I said. By nothing I mean in comparison to the greater societies. Skull and bones, i believe is a front.

[Lou Minotti]

Quote by: rmnunez PH, I'd never met someone who subscribed to this conspiracy theory. The "muckracker" is not a name for a credible source. There is some sense to the notion aiding Hitler would help build a bullwark to Stalin (Franco thought so too and sent a Division to help out). Bush's kin holding substantial capital investment in Germany prior to WW2 would have to be concerned over the relative strength of war-devastaded Germany and the then still expanding communist Soviet Union.

Most "theories" can't be proven. This stuff is documented up one side and down the other. When McCarthy went after these guys, he got labeled a "conspiracy theorist" and the media ended his career.

[Lou Minotti]

Quote by: Hazzard No you misinterpret what I said. By nothing I mean in comparison to the greater societies. Skull and bones, i believe is a front.

A front? Maybe. But I think calling it "nothing" or a "front" diminishes the responsibility that should be placed on these people. Their treachery is documented. They are long since exposed and in the light. The people they are "fronting" for, in large part, unfortunately, are not....

Is the mob a "front" as well? One could make the argument.

So while I agree we should always have the bigger picture in our peripheral vision, Skull and Bones can and should be compared to La Cosa Nostra and should be dealt with accordingly.

[Hazzard]

Agreed. Although as you say, the bigger picture must be maintained for fear of falling under there inteded spell of ranting over reletivly small organisations.

[Lou Minotti]

Agreed. Although as you say, the bigger picture must be maintained for fear of falling under there inteded spell of ranting over reletivly small organisations.

The "big picture" for you and I is absolute lunacy and grounds for being institutionalized by the majority. I get what you are saying. But where do we start? How do we expose these people when they wield what seems like limitless power coupled with the fact that we don't really know who they are?

[Hazzard]

There is nothing you can do. You just hold your ass and become and christian and hope that god is coming soon :|. I for one am making independant films, my first will be completed by june i hope. After that the sky is the limit for me, ill be making all sorts of films based on the entire subject. I do believe however that the "majority" get what they deserve. If you dont think like you and I, then im sorry but you dont deserve freedom "you ignorant, satans ass toy" to put it lightly

[PatrickHenry]

Quote by: Hazzard reletivly small organisations.

That's just the point, Hazzard. Why were America's two "viable options" in the most recent election from the same miniscule fragment of society?

You do understand that the President is the absolute Ruler of America, don't you?

[castille]

I bet all Skulls and Bones does is prance around in their underwear playing pranks and having unsafe sex with each other.

[Hazzard]

The president! The president is a puppet on strings made of money! Hes a tool! Ulysees S grant.....MORRON in case you didnt know! Dont believe me? Dont go to the history books from your school, they LIE! They use morronic easy to manipulate candidates becuase they know they can control them. But bush is an idiot, his little obsession with the satanic simbol he does with his hand is so stupid, he might as well just shout it out. If you ask me there are elites all over the world slapping there forheads in disgust everytime he goes live :S. And his dad, im sure he has to defend his son every damn time theres an SnB meeting. "Tell that son of yours to pipe down and stop flashing his hands all the god damn time or we will do him like we did kennedy you got me?!"

[Rainbow]

Quote by: mlingley I would like to open this up for debate. What do you guys think about Skull and Bones.. both George W. Bush and John F. Kerry are members of this elite fraternity at Yale. The conspiracy theorists should have a hay day with this one. Does anyone think the "elite" are controlling the United States? You could argue that this is evidence of that.

Not only U.S., but the whole world, respectively :-)))

Those guys have their shares and rule, just like it happened in past centuries.
Changes ?
Names, dates, titles, technology, science, clothings :-))) , ect. The mechanism stays the same. Appx. 1% of the whole planet Earth's population rules the rest of 99%.
It is called : democracy (today) :-)))

[Lou Minotti]

Actually, some would call it tyranny. But in the age of doublespeak, most seem unaware of the difference.

[Hazzard]

People do believe it. They just refuse to react simply becuase they HATE the idea that they have been stupid enough to be duped so efffectivly. What they need to realise is they have been duped by satan, and thats nothing to be embaressed about, he is a master of decieving.