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Old Mar 12, 2004, 04:22 pm   #81 (permalink) (top)
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</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by
creating Truth on the other hand...<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>

... is known as living in illusions..
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Old Mar 12, 2004, 06:26 pm   #82 (permalink) (top)
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</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Lightbearer,)


... is known as living in illusions..
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is known as religion, belief, faith...

is known as preachers of social utopia...

illusions... no, that is too kind, they are lies which only obscure the nihilistic...

but you are welcome to scream as loud as you like about your illusion that you call "Truth"... it is nothing


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Old Mar 12, 2004, 07:02 pm   #83 (permalink) (top)
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</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Impenitent,)
</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Lightbearer,)


... is known as living in illusions..
<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>

is known as religion, belief, faith...

is known as preachers of social utopia...

illusions... no, that is too kind, they are lies which only obscure the nihilistic...

but you are welcome to scream as loud as you like about your illusion that you call "Truth"... it is nothing
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Hmm, sounds like things are definitely getting metaphysical here. In some ways, you're right, "Truth" is nothing. I for one am not screaming anything, to the contrary.

Yep, no truth, no rights. So we live in a Hobbesian sort of world, the war of everyman vs. everyman...is that your point? Might makes right?
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Old Mar 12, 2004, 07:05 pm   #84 (permalink) (top)
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</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Impenitent,)
</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Lightbearer,)


... is known as living in illusions..
<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>

is known as religion, belief, faith...

is known as preachers of social utopia...

illusions... no, that is too kind, they are lies which only obscure the nihilistic...

but you are welcome to scream as loud as you like about your illusion that you call "Truth"... it is nothing
<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>

But Bush is a giant bucket of righteousness correct?
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Old Mar 12, 2004, 07:09 pm   #85 (permalink) (top)
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Roxdog, where do you stand on whether we should have A government. At least a limited one to provide defense and basic public services?

If you've already stated this, I did not see it.


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Old Mar 13, 2004, 01:14 am   #86 (permalink) (top)
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</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (LiveAndLetLive,)
</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Impenitent,)
</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Lightbearer,)


... is known as living in illusions..
<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>

is known as religion, belief, faith...

is known as preachers of social utopia...

illusions... no, that is too kind, they are lies which only obscure the nihilistic...

but you are welcome to scream as loud as you like about your illusion that you call "Truth"... it is nothing
<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>
Hmm, sounds like things are definitely getting metaphysical here. In some ways, you're right, "Truth" is nothing. I for one am not screaming anything, to the contrary.

Yep, no truth, no rights. So we live in a Hobbesian sort of world, the war of everyman vs. everyman...is that your point? Might makes right?
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Nietzschean actually... but hobbes wasn't too bad


&quot;I really like this jacket, but the sleeves are much too long...&quot;
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Old Mar 13, 2004, 01:17 am   #87 (permalink) (top)
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</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (roxdog,)
</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Impenitent,)
</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Lightbearer,)


... is known as living in illusions..
<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>

is known as religion, belief, faith...

is known as preachers of social utopia...

illusions... no, that is too kind, they are lies which only obscure the nihilistic...

but you are welcome to scream as loud as you like about your illusion that you call "Truth"... it is nothing
<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>

But Bush is a giant bucket of righteousness correct?
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yeah sure... that is your assumption, not mine...

but bush still beats kerry


&quot;I really like this jacket, but the sleeves are much too long...&quot;
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Old Mar 13, 2004, 08:40 pm   #88 (permalink) (top)
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</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Impenitent,)
but bush still beats kerry<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>

What's the score?
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