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Mathieu · Mar 2, 2004, 11:43 pm

Well the main export of Haiti is exactly that, boat full of boat people . And that is something governement want to prevent .
US do not want to control Haiti,
They are just not willing to support any country leader unable to give stability to his country.
They have not close any door to stop what happen from happenning.
It is not about evil conspiracies to control all, it is much simpler than that, it s about stability.

castille · Mar 3, 2004, 09:19 am

Dont tell me. The US is going to spread its "grand sphere of democracy" over Haiti.

The Americans should just leave Haiti alone. People around the world already hate them for intervening, even if its for the good. Look at the war in Iraq; theres outbursts about it, despite the fact the US saved millions from Saddam's torture chambers.

So the US should sit back, relax, and let Haiti take care of itself.

Any whiners...."Well you criticised us over Iraq, so now we're going to keep out of foreign affairs and see how it goes."

SVMc · Mar 3, 2004, 09:29 pm

Is not one else distrubed by the originating post which seems to imply that America = White and Haiti = Black, so whites and blacks are seperate social entities defined by thier governments and so should not engage in co-operation.

There just seems to be so much wrong with that analogy to figure out where to begin. First, I'd suggest the responsibility to protect, then the social and community movements that are asking for intervention.

Mar 3, 2004, 09:19 am	#22 (permalink) (top)
castille Citizen #21521 Posts: 2,599	Dont tell me. The US is going to spread its "grand sphere of democracy" over Haiti. The Americans should just leave Haiti alone. People around the world already hate them for intervening, even if its for the good. Look at the war in Iraq; theres outbursts about it, despite the fact the US saved millions from Saddam's torture chambers. So the US should sit back, relax, and let Haiti take care of itself. Any whiners...."Well you criticised us over Iraq, so now we're going to keep out of foreign affairs and see how it goes." Ideological loyalty is the act of giving your soul to a vague concept, to be manipulated by people smarter than you.

Mar 3, 2004, 09:29 pm	#23 (permalink) (top)
SVMc Lazy Sniper Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 513	Is not one else distrubed by the originating post which seems to imply that America = White and Haiti = Black, so whites and blacks are seperate social entities defined by thier governments and so should not engage in co-operation. There just seems to be so much wrong with that analogy to figure out where to begin. First, I'd suggest the responsibility to protect, then the social and community movements that are asking for intervention. Capitalism is: Man exploiting man. Socialism is the other way around.

Mar 2, 2004, 11:43 pm	#21 (permalink) (top)
Mathieu Igneous Magma Location: Montreal Posts: 216	Well the main export of Haiti is exactly that, boat full of boat people . And that is something governement want to prevent . US do not want to control Haiti, They are just not willing to support any country leader unable to give stability to his country. They have not close any door to stop what happen from happenning. It is not about evil conspiracies to control all, it is much simpler than that, it s about stability.