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Atomica · Feb 26, 2004, 03:25 pm

Comedienne-turned-talk show host Rosie O'Donnell has decided to marry her longtime girlfriend in San Francisco today.

PatC · Feb 27, 2004, 02:24 am

Are these people aware that the marriage licenses they are recieveing are not real, since the state of California has not legalized any sort of gay marriage or civil union.

Impenitent · Feb 27, 2004, 11:35 am

they don't care... they think they are making a point when all they are doing is ruining the chances of kerry's election... no one wants gay marriage and it is a democRAT albatros...

ruiner · Feb 27, 2004, 01:33 pm

Personally I dislike the views of democrats and republicans just as much

If people want to do gay "marriage" as opposed to REAL marriage then so what? Just don't expect me to ever think it is anything more than a gimmick

Atomica · Feb 27, 2004, 01:37 pm

I am happy for Ms O'Donnell and her wife despite my disagreement with Gavin Newsom's law-breaking policy.

dotcoma · Feb 27, 2004, 04:16 pm

This is a non-issue...

Impenitent · Feb 27, 2004, 04:35 pm

the democRATS wish it was a non issue...

terstorm · Feb 27, 2004, 04:40 pm

good for rosie even though she's an anti-gun pro-war lunatic.

non-issue or not, its gonna happen.

Mia · Mar 4, 2004, 04:34 am

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Atomica,)
I am happy for Ms O'Donnell and her wife despite my disagreement with Gavin Newsom's law-breaking policy.<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

Is Newsom practicing civil disobediance? I think so!

Mia · Mar 4, 2004, 04:36 am

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Impenitent,)
the democRATS wish it was a non issue...<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

It is a non-issue but used to make the democrats look bad by making it an issue.

french_jew · Mar 4, 2004, 05:48 am

Why don't American lawmakers create a kind of Civil union different of marriage ?

This exists in France, and I guess in many european countries... it's more like a contract..and gays are happy then.
We call that a 'Pacs' : Civil Pact of Solidarity.

The worrying question is : what will be the next step ?
- Adoption ? True marriage ?

Nathan

Mia · Mar 4, 2004, 08:46 pm

Why not? You'd rather a child grow up in an orphanage or various foster homes rather than with a gay couple?

french_jew · Mar 4, 2004, 09:04 pm

Do you prefer to be eaten by mouses or rats ???

Homosexuality is a choice, and this one does not include of being able to get children !

Nathan

Paavo · Mar 4, 2004, 10:48 pm

mice*

and "Homosexuality is a choice" .... how the hell do you know that? Isn't it pretty damn obvious it's not a choice? Why in the world would anyone -- willingly -- be someone who people look down upon and call a freak etc etc?

I don't think homosexuals should be allowed to adopt children though, but that's another topic all together.

EDIT:
I'm sorry, have had a few beers and it's late, but... this whole "they're gay by choice" - thing made me really wonder. Have you not got some kind of sexual preferences? Fetishes...whatever. I know I've got quite a few. And I also know I have never browsed a catalog or list and gone "hmm......I'll choose to be excited by ******...yeah, I'll have the ******-fetish, please". My sexual preferences have been in me for as long as I can remember. I did never choose to have them. What about you? Did you choose yours? Do you seriously think that homosexual people went into their rooms as a kid one day and said to themselves "I think I'm going to turn gay now, totally ignoring the fact that I used to think touching another man's penis was something that would've made me sick"?

I mean... people claiming it to be a choice really haven't thought it through, have they?

SVMc · Mar 4, 2004, 10:50 pm

I don't understand why people are threatened by gay marriage. What exactly will it take away from? Comming from Toronto where gay marriage is in fact legal isn't it just being inclusive? I mean if this were phrased as bi-racial or blacks allowed to marry blacks it would be a non-issue. It should be a non-issue.

Civil unions have been largely criticized here because they create a two teired system. It makes gay people 2nd class citizens.

lcswoosh · Mar 5, 2004, 01:20 am

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (french_jew,)
Do you prefer to be eaten by mouses or rats ???

Homosexuality is a choice, and this one does not include of being able to get children !

Nathan<hr size="1" /></blockquote>Are you REALLY that ignorant?

Feb 26, 2004, 03:25 pm	#1 (permalink) (top)
Atomica Molten Ash Location: Joplin MO USA Posts: 36	Comedienne-turned-talk show host Rosie O'Donnell has decided to marry her longtime girlfriend in San Francisco today. ATOMICA Xtremist In Charge, POLITICAL SMACKDOWN! On Runboard And Network54

Feb 27, 2004, 02:24 am	#2 (permalink) (top)
PatC Molten Ash Location: Boston Posts: 109	Are these people aware that the marriage licenses they are recieveing are not real, since the state of California has not legalized any sort of gay marriage or civil union. We're looking at the world through the barrel of a gun, are we ready?

Feb 27, 2004, 11:35 am	#3 (permalink) (top)
Impenitent Hot Lava Posts: 1,859	they don't care... they think they are making a point when all they are doing is ruining the chances of kerry's election... no one wants gay marriage and it is a democRAT albatros... "I really like this jacket, but the sleeves are much too long..." insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results...

Feb 27, 2004, 01:37 pm	#5 (permalink) (top)
Atomica Molten Ash Location: Joplin MO USA Posts: 36	I am happy for Ms O'Donnell and her wife despite my disagreement with Gavin Newsom's law-breaking policy. ATOMICA Xtremist In Charge, POLITICAL SMACKDOWN! On Runboard And Network54

Feb 27, 2004, 04:35 pm	#7 (permalink) (top)
Impenitent Hot Lava Posts: 1,859	the democRATS wish it was a non issue... "I really like this jacket, but the sleeves are much too long..." insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results...

Feb 27, 2004, 01:33 pm	#4 (permalink) (top)
ruiner Igneous Magma Posts: 180	Personally I dislike the views of democrats and republicans just as much If people want to do gay "marriage" as opposed to REAL marriage then so what? Just don't expect me to ever think it is anything more than a gimmick

Feb 27, 2004, 04:16 pm	#6 (permalink) (top)
dotcoma Volcanic Erupter Posts: 3,154	This is a non-issue...

Feb 27, 2004, 04:40 pm	#8 (permalink) (top)
terstorm Molten Ash Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 60	good for rosie even though she's an anti-gun pro-war lunatic. non-issue or not, its gonna happen. <span style='color:blue'>Things Fall Apart---the centre cannot hold</span> Storm

Mar 4, 2004, 04:34 am	#9 (permalink) (top)
Mia Retired Posts: 7,312	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Atomica,) I am happy for Ms O'Donnell and her wife despite my disagreement with Gavin Newsom's law-breaking policy.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> Is Newsom practicing civil disobediance? I think so! "...with like-minded people one cannot discuss. With like-minded people one can only participate in a church service, and you know how I feel about church services." Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Mar 4, 2004, 04:36 am	#10 (permalink) (top)
Mia Retired Posts: 7,312	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Impenitent,) the democRATS wish it was a non issue...<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> It is a non-issue but used to make the democrats look bad by making it an issue. "...with like-minded people one cannot discuss. With like-minded people one can only participate in a church service, and you know how I feel about church services." Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Mar 4, 2004, 05:48 am	#11 (permalink) (top)
french_jew Molten Ash Posts: 43	Why don't American lawmakers create a kind of Civil union different of marriage ? This exists in France, and I guess in many european countries... it's more like a contract..and gays are happy then. We call that a 'Pacs' : Civil Pact of Solidarity. The worrying question is : what will be the next step ? - Adoption ? True marriage ? Nathan

Mar 4, 2004, 08:46 pm	#12 (permalink) (top)
Mia Retired Posts: 7,312	Why not? You'd rather a child grow up in an orphanage or various foster homes rather than with a gay couple? "...with like-minded people one cannot discuss. With like-minded people one can only participate in a church service, and you know how I feel about church services." Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Mar 4, 2004, 09:04 pm	#13 (permalink) (top)
french_jew Molten Ash Posts: 43	Do you prefer to be eaten by mouses or rats ??? Homosexuality is a choice, and this one does not include of being able to get children ! Nathan

Mar 4, 2004, 10:48 pm	#14 (permalink) (top)
Paavo Location: Finland Posts: 712	mice* and "Homosexuality is a choice" .... how the hell do you know that? Isn't it pretty damn obvious it's not a choice? Why in the world would anyone -- willingly -- be someone who people look down upon and call a freak etc etc? I don't think homosexuals should be allowed to adopt children though, but that's another topic all together. EDIT: I'm sorry, have had a few beers and it's late, but... this whole "they're gay by choice" - thing made me really wonder. Have you not got some kind of sexual preferences? Fetishes...whatever. I know I've got quite a few. And I also know I have never browsed a catalog or list and gone "hmm......I'll choose to be excited by ****...yeah, I'll have the ****-fetish, please". My sexual preferences have been in me for as long as I can remember. I did never choose to have them. What about you? Did you choose yours? Do you seriously think that homosexual people went into their rooms as a kid one day and said to themselves "I think I'm going to turn gay now, totally ignoring the fact that I used to think touching another man's penis was something that would've made me sick"? I mean... people claiming it to be a choice really haven't thought it through, have they?

Mar 4, 2004, 10:50 pm	#15 (permalink) (top)
SVMc Lazy Sniper Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 513	I don't understand why people are threatened by gay marriage. What exactly will it take away from? Comming from Toronto where gay marriage is in fact legal isn't it just being inclusive? I mean if this were phrased as bi-racial or blacks allowed to marry blacks it would be a non-issue. It should be a non-issue. Civil unions have been largely criticized here because they create a two teired system. It makes gay people 2nd class citizens. Capitalism is: Man exploiting man. Socialism is the other way around.

Mar 5, 2004, 01:20 am	#16 (permalink) (top)
lcswoosh Backed by WMD Location: Iowa Posts: 34	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (french_jew,) Do you prefer to be eaten by mouses or rats ??? Homosexuality is a choice, and this one does not include of being able to get children ! Nathan<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>Are you REALLY that ignorant?