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| 9/11: Inside Job Location: Hawai'i, Big Island Posts: 10,437 | The Gray Champions Anyone familiar with Strauss and Howe's book, The Fourth Turning? An outgrowth of their previous monumental work, Generations? They postulate a four generational cycle of American history with a critical cusp at the time of the fourth turning. They theorize that, at the proper moment, the Spirit of America rises and creates the conditions for a return to the essential values of the nation. http://www.fourthturning.com/html/gray_champions.html And I wonder, is Cindy Sheehan a Gray Champion? http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...0_200508111708 Quote:
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| Anarcho-capitalist Posts: 1,972 | That's an inspiring post, Patrick. Thank you :) Quote:
Things change through education and spreading the word. If people can see where the problems are realize the impact of them. I have some faith in the future :) Quote:
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Again, great post. Freedom - are you man enough to handle it? If so, join us in New Hampshire! The Free State Project ("Liberty in our lifetime!") www.freestateproject.com Last edited by SteveA; Aug 12, 2005 at 05:34 pm. | |||
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| Principled Observer Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 13,873 | Excellent post Pat. ( as usual ) Petition of Redress of Grievances: http://www.givemeliberty.org/default.htm Canadian Lawsuit Against Their National Banks: http://www.freewebs.com/classaction/ Osborn F. Enready |
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| Anarcho-capitalist Posts: 1,972 | Here's a (powerful) piece written by another woman regarding this: http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig5/samples5.html Wow Freedom - are you man enough to handle it? If so, join us in New Hampshire! The Free State Project ("Liberty in our lifetime!") www.freestateproject.com |
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| Glad to be back! Location: Vernal, UT Posts: 1,725 | This is kind of what I was talking about in my "I wanna be a terrorist" thread - but a little more peaceful and rational.... Fixed ideas are like a cramp in the foot - the best remedy against it is to tread on it. -Søren Kierkegaard |
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| Volcanic Erupter Posts: 9,491 | It is fascinating how from time to time throughout history, the right individuals emerge to play a role that it seems no one else could play. Where the Democratic and the Republican "leaders" seem to lack both the integrity and will to stand up against the war, a mother with tragic credentials, stands up and says what needs to be said and the nation is stunned and stirred by her fearlessness and conviction. In some respects she reminds me of Rosa Parks except that Psrks had the eloquence and organizational skills of a young Martin Luther King Jr. to support her. Sheenan has stood almost alone and been all the more powerful because of it. Rick "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." Sinclair Lewis |
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| 9/11: Inside Job Location: Hawai'i, Big Island Posts: 10,437 | Cindy had this to say on truthout today: Quote:
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| Igneous Magma Posts: 632 | Well you're either with us in the War on Terror or your against. My sedition charge wasn't at all off the mark. Now all the Feds need to do is ferret out where she is getting her money from. She will probably never be convicted of treason, but maybe she will help break down the fifth column. These left-wing agitators have gotten even more subtle with their invidious propaganda since Vietnam. The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction. Prov 1:7 |
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| pregnant with truth Posts: 2,174 | bump. can't let perfecto have the last word on Pat's thread. I could never comprehend how history's madmen acquired power. Perfecto is like that Rolling Stones song Sympathy for the Devil, kinda. his character has lived over and again throughout time. not as a great man or woman and not even as a terribly evil man, but as a tool. Perfecto lives again as a god-fearing sucker for any political leader, who can bring hateful punishment to those he wishes to punish. They rise up, cause terror, and they all fall down. and then peace reigns until another cult of personality emerges. perfecto will be there to help. spineless. Thank goodness Cindy Sheehan will live again as well. |
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| 9/11: Inside Job Location: Hawai'i, Big Island Posts: 10,437 | Cindy wrote this today: Quote:
I think she IS a Gray Champion... "Arms in the hands of the citizens may be used at individual discretion for the defense of the country, the overthrow of tyranny or private self-defense." -- John Adams | |
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| 9/11: Inside Job Location: Hawai'i, Big Island Posts: 10,437 | Another Gray Champion: Bill Quigley | Grandmothers for Peace Get Federal Prison Instead Quote:
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| Volcanic Erupter Posts: 8,663 | I have often wondered what our nation would be like if we had someone like her as a President and if Congress had people like that. We have just exprienced what is like to have our country run by the right wing people. It would be nice to find out what might result if we had the left wing in control for a term of office. But looks like we will getting a "moderate" staffing after the elections in two years. But what if we really did vote for people who were indendant and who were non-political to our so-called political offices. Someone who truely comprehended the values of human life and someone who would echo the compassion that sometimes activates the "spirit of America", when everyone wants to pitch in and do good things for everyone else. Not someone following a book outline for socialism, democracy, captialism, or other pre-established idealologies, but someone who is truely gifted with wisdom relative to all topics confronting a President, and who could likewise break through to the hybernating conscience of our citizens to overcome poverty problems, crime, polution, and so forth. And someone who could restore the image of Ameirca in the eyes of other governments. Spingtime follows winter, it is a circle. Let us hope that world peace will follow the wars and the mess we must now witness. But we need someone to "shine" like the summer sun, to bring back the flower power that we now are without. If you get my drift ( sort of got poetic). I believe it is evident that millions of people are waiting for that ray of light that can activate a new momentum, a new direction, for our nation. If we had an army of compassion in action. Instead of just an army of distruction, I bet millions would line up to be inlisted. 10 times the numbers who signed up to fight terrorism or Saddam. They are ready, they are willing, they are able, if only someone came to the forefront who could tap into that massive human resource as a leader who cannot be pushed aside by a mere security guard. Nice O.P. - we can use a lot of these nowadays. |
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