Bush gets first look at anti-war protest near ranch

[gr8fuldaniel]

Quote by: RickSp you might find a vigil in your area. Vigil for Cindy Sheehan

Thanx for that link, I found one near me that I will attend.

EDIT to add:
I think I will print out some of these to hand out:

[RickSp]

It is amazing what one person can do.

[RickSp]

About 70 people gathered Wednesday outside the War Memorial building for a candlelight vigil, one of several held across the nation and spurred by Cindy Sheehan, the mother of a soldier killed in Iraq. She has drawn widespread attention for the anti-war demonstration she has been staging near President Bush's ranch in Texas this month.

New Jerseyans show support for mother of slain soldier

The Newsday article describes a vigil in Trenton. Here in Jersey City we had roughly fifty folks ranging from kids too young to hold candles to grandparents with snow white hair and canes, gathering around the fountain in Van Vorst Park. Across the river in Manhattan there were many more vigils, at Ground Zero, at Wall Street and no doubt up the length of the island.

And across the length and breadth of the country this evening, thousands and thousands of candles flickered in the wind burning in solidarity with Cindy Sheehan. The flames may not yet stop a war, but it is a start.

[GodBlessAmerica]

gr8fuldaniel,

She's just being used for fund raising by the leftists.
The more she talks, the more she sounds like a flaming lunatic.

I love it and hope she keeps it up. The American people and especially the family of soldiers are fed up with her, which means they will respond. :-)

[Chris]

Quote by: 7 Swildo 7 http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...1sheehan1.html She is being divorced....just thought i would put this up for those that are interested.

Who cares? Way to attack the victim there.

[Chris]

Quote by: GodBlessAmerica gr8fuldaniel, She's just being used for fund raising by the leftists. The more she talks, the more she sounds like a flaming lunatic. I love it and hope she keeps it up. The American people and especially the family of soldiers are fed up with her, which means they will respond. :-)

You disgust me. Didn't you read how drudge has taken her quotes out of context?

The more you post, the more you sound like a flaming lunatic.

[GodBlessAmerica]

Chris, I was referring to her being a leftist shill who has said some ignorant stuff that even her own family shuns. I haven't been to Drudge regarding her, so that means nothing to me.

She is a left wing anti-war activist and was that long before her son died. For her this is absolutly nothing new.

[Chris]

Ao you want to attack her just cause she is a "leftist"? Good reason there. Why bring in her personal life? Neocons such as yourself have sunk to a new low.

[GodBlessAmerica]

<i>Why bring in her personal life? </i>
Because she is using her dead son as a prop for her politics when he totally disagreed with her views.
She brought herself into this. She met with Bush, then said she didn't.
She's an echo for the Michael Moore goofs and that is all.
Her family chose to come out to make it personally known that one wants an divorce and the rest thinks she is all wrong regarding her son and the war and would like her to close the mouth.

I like her to talk, though I'll of course post against her content. She is making the American mainstream public sick of her stupidity.

[Chris]

"Mainstream"? :) OK I will just drop it then. I am nt getting anything out of this discussion.

[righthand]

Quote by: RickSp It is amazing what one person can do.

A picture worth a 1,000 words. You got it in one. Maybe a few words for the less well mentally endowed like "She's just being used for fund raising by the leftists." Where was georgie going when he steam past that morning in such a rush? See press release #34 08-14-05, 05:43 am.

I've had a thought that what the US needs is a FEMALE PRESIDENT. It could only be better than the males. Now I take this notion back if georgie has any sisters!

Land donated to Sheehan out of 'compassion' HoustonCronicle ...Aug. 18, 2005, 12:54AM
Waco-area man says politics didn't play into decision to give protesters a place to assemble

A Waco-area man who donated land for Cindy Sheehan's anti-war camp said Wednesday that he was motivated by compassion rather than politics — although he is against the war in Iraq. Fred Mattlage, 52, said he wanted to "give these people some property to peacefully assemble, for no publicity and basically as an act of compassion for a parent who has lost a son in combat." Mattlage's distant cousin, Larry Mattlage, is a neighbor of Bush's and last weekend fired a shotgun on his property in frustration about the cars parked on Prairie Chapel Road. The next day, Fred Mattlage offered his land, closer to Bush's ranch and away from his cousin's property, to Sheehan's group. He downplayed the family-feud angle, however, saying he just wanted to help out. "It is a small community," Mattlage said. "It's pro-Bush because it's brought a lot of business to that little town and put it on the map." Mattlage, who said he served in the Army's 82nd Airborne Division without seeing combat, described himself as self-employed but declined to say what business he is in.

[RickSp]

Quote by: GodBlessAmerica She is making the American mainstream public sick of her stupidity.

Her views may represent more of the "mainstream" public than yours. Only 34% of the American public support Bush's policies in Iraq. That number will, no doubt, continue to fall. Unfortunately in the mean time so will American soldiers in this needless war.

[gr8fuldaniel]

Quote by: GodBlessAmerica The more she talks, the more she sounds like a flaming lunatic.

I have been following this pretty closely. I havent witnessed any such thing. She is always composed and peaceful, using measured words. Do you have a source to back up this claim?

[righthand]

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[Quote by: God]BlessAmerica
The more she talks, the more she sounds like a flaming lunatic. I have been following this pretty closely. I havent witnessed any such thing. She is always composed and peaceful, using measured words. Do you have a source to back up this claim?

Quote by: gr8fuldaniel I have been following this pretty closely. I haven't witnessed any such thing. She is always composed and peaceful, using measured words. Do you have a source to back up this claim?

GOD doesn't need a source. Well the bible, and you can interpret it however you like.

The more they attack her, the stronger she gets.
The more they attack her, the stronger all good people become.
The more they attack her, the more you know she's right.
The more they attack her, the more we know that they are hurting.
The more they attack her, the more we know this is going to blow up in their faces.
The more they attack her, the stronger she gets.
The more they attack her, the stronger all good people become.
And so on and so on. Simple really. They'll use venom instead of logic, as usual.

[righthand]

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Anti-war protesters march past crosses representing dead American soldiers in Crawford
Source: Reuters

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19 Aug 2005
Anti-war protesters, led by Juan Torres (front) who is carrying a picture of his military son, also named Juan, who was killed in Afghanistan, march with clergy members past crosses representing dead American soldiers near the ranch of U.S. President George W. Bush in Crawford, Texas August 19, 2005. In the absence of lead protester Cindy Sheehan, who raced back to California to visit her ailing mother, other parents of U.S. soldiers recently killed in the Middle East have rallied together for her cause to meet with President Bush in an effort to change his war policy.
Reuters/JASON REED

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[GodBlessAmerica]

[quote=righthand]

[Quote by: God]BlessAmerica The more she talks, the more she sounds like a flaming lunatic. I have been following this pretty closely. I havent witnessed any such thing. She is always composed and peaceful, using measured words. Do you have a source to back up this claim? GOD doesn't need a source. Well the bible, and you can interpret it however you like. The more they attack her, the stronger she gets. The more they attack her, the stronger all good people become. The more they attack her, the more you know she's right. The more they attack her, the more we know that they are hurting. The more they attack her, the more we know this is going to blow up in their faces. The more they attack her, the stronger she gets. The more they attack her, the stronger all good people become. And so on and so on. Simple really. They'll use venom instead of logic, as usual.

AOL Poll: Cindy's Support Fading
Saturday, Aug. 20, 2005 10:23 p.m. EDT AOL Poll: Cindy's Support Fading

Watching Bush-bashing Gold Star mom Cindy Sheehan's press coverage, you'd think she has won the hearts and minds of Americans by universal acclamation.

But a massive poll by America Online suggests that Sheehan is actually losing the public opinion battle by a landslide.

Asked: "Do you agree with Sheehan's views?" Cindy's supporters trail her critics, 56 to 44 percent, with nearly 290,000 Americans responding to the technically unscientific survey. Asked, "Do you agree with Sheehan's tactics?" Cindy faired even worse, losing that contest 59 to 44 percent.

Other, much smaller "scientific" surveys also show Sheehan losing support, but by smaller margins.

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Mom has the right to protest but not exploit son's memory
http://www.abqtrib.com/albq/op_colum...015571,00.html

Casey Sheehan was probably 21 or 22 when he joined the military - a young man, to be sure, but a grown man nonetheless.

His mother, Cindy, admits she opposed his choice.

A little more than a year ago, Cindy Sheehan and the president did talk.

Afterward, a newspaper account quoted Cindy Sheehan saying: "I now know (Bush is) sincere about wanting freedom for the Iraqis. I know he's sorry and feels some pain for our loss. And I know he's a man of faith."

Today, she calls the president a murderer.

One left-wing Web site advised readers how to properly manipulate Sheehan's story: "We should never call her Cindy..."

She is now a useful tool of an anti-war movement that is less about peace and respect for those who have died than it is about being anti-American...

It doesn't make her a traitor, as some on the right argue, but it certainly opens the door to questions about her present motivations.

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Speak of the Dead:
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Conten...p?ZoomFont=YES
The Cindy Sheehan story is only the latest instance of the left's grief-based politics. IN THE FOUR YEARS OR so since September 11, liberals have found a new weapon of preference, and that weapon is martyrdom. They have discovered grief as a tactical weapon. They tend to like grief they can use. They use it to arouse guilt and sympathy to cover a highly partisan message, in the hope that while the message may be controversial, the messenger will be sacrosanct and above reproach. Since 9/11, they have embraced this tactic repeatedly
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Cindy Sheehan: 35% Favorable 38% Unfavorable
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/2005...%20Sheehan.htm
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Foreign Communists give Cindy a thumbs up
http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/art...rticle_id=7170
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The Revolutionary Communist Party sticks up for Cindy Sheehan
http://rwor.org/a/012/cindy-sheehan-crawford.htm
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Sheehan's Hubby and Son: Cindy, Go Home!
http://newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/8/18/111304.shtml

[PatrickHenry]

GBA, two things. One: you need to use quotes and attribution or the board's integral quote function when you are using words someone else has written. Otherwise, how do we distinguish debate from some columnist's professional writing?

And Two: Photoshopped images that render the object of your scorn in a bad light are spiteful and beneath you. I think you are more honest than that, but maybe you are just vrwc...

Or if you like, I can post images of Dubya's facial expressions next to a chimpanzee, grimacing the same way. It's not really debate, but maybe okay for laffs...

[Chris]

Sick sick sick. What is she now running for president? Why is there a poll showing her "support" for anyway? That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.

[righthand]

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Quote by: PatrickHenry GBA, two things. One: you need to use quotes and attribution or the board's integral quote function when you are using words someone else has written. Otherwise, how do we distinguish debate from some columnist's professional writing? And Two: Photoshopped images that render the object of your scorn in a bad light are spiteful and beneath you. I think you are more honest than that, but maybe you are just vrwc...Or if you like, I can post images of Dubya's facial expressions next to a chimpanzee, grimacing the same way. It's not really debate, but maybe okay for laffs...

No, PH, god can do anything. Please see post 18 and god's responds

righthand No surprise god is here too - only joking god is here - only joking god is there - only joking BLA BLA BLA

So, not only does god not "to use quotes and attribution or the board's integral quote function"... she can use the quotes to attribute my words to himself as it has on as least two occasions. Is god a him a she or it or something inanimate??? Is it even a christian god? Have these very important questions being answered. So, a tiny admonishment to god. STOP using my words as if they were YOUR words. WORSE you put words of yours in with words of mine. Your addition of BLA BLA BLA on to my words is VERY VERY SERIOUS. If it is some schoolboy/girl/it prank, then you should apologize. If it was a mistake, then own up. Any third explanation or none requires DRASTIC action, god. Plagiarizing is BAD, but amending a posters words to read as something different in quotes, is FAR WORSE!!! Worse even than badly doctored photos.

ASK if you are unable to use quotes properly. If you had read over you postings first, you should have seen your ERRORS.

On the positive side, PH, god is at least trying. Previously god posted like a drug crazed, no tomorrow, immature, schoolboy/girl. This is a vast improvement. Credit where credit is due. The content is still crap, but you can award good points for effort. Now we have a problem with quantity and quality. God's "Look Stuff Up", I wonder it that a giveaway of where this crap issue from. Is god just a conduit to our forum?

PH Otherwise, how do we distinguish debate from some columnist's professional writing?

dotcoma on 08-18-05, 03:12 pm commenced a thread called "Documents Show State Department Warned Clinton About Bin Laden" with sources fox news and judicialwatch. I replied posting no.7. Nobody replied. In it I wrote
"I DO NOT EXPECT TO GET CONNED BY VOLCONVO 'LATEST NEWS' "

righthand My second reaction was this was a planted story on ice awaiting its moment. Hey presto, that Sheehan bitch, she's hogging the news. Get her. Find some family bimbo to bad mouth her. And here's a story we've being keeping in reserve. Get onto that Judicial Watch gang, we pay them enough. Get them to issue a press release about Clinton. That will shut them up.

So I'm particularly sensitive now to planted stories and sources.

from sources used by god WeeklyStandard "The first time was in May 2002, when Democrats accused Republicans of insulting the dead of September 11 by selling a photo of George W. Bush on Air Force One on that day." righthand Is this the infamous "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" photo call 'The War is Over' RASMUSSEN Report: War on Terror: Pessimism Growing Just 38% of Americans now believe the U.S. and its Allies are winning the War on Terror. A Rasmussen Reports survey found that 36% believe the terrorists are winning. Those figures are by far the most pessimistic ever recorded by Rasmussen Reports RASMUSSEN Report: President Bush Job Approval Sunday August 21, 2005--Forty-eight percent (48%) of American adults now approve of the way George W. Bush is performing his role as President. Fifty-two percent (52%) disapprove. Just 24% of Americans Strongly Approve of the President's Performance while 37% Strongly Disapprove. Six months ago, following the Iraqi elections, those numbers were essentially even. On the day the President delivered his State of the Union Address, 33% Strongly Approved of the President's Performance while 31% Strongly Disapproved. SolialistWorker Cindy Sheehan shows Bush is now losing in Iraq and at home god The Revolutionary Communist Party sticks up for Cindy Sheehan http://rwor.org/a/012/cindy-sheehan-crawford.htm righthand So what. The whole world, god as you should know, was more interested in Cindy Sheehan than ANY other event, including spacewalks. If the RCP and SW were not interested, THEN you would have something interesting to post. Grow up! Sheehan's Hubby and Son: Cindy, Go Home! http://newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/8/18/111304.shtml

First, I would like to see this from a reliable source that does not twist words or quote bits of sentences. Secondly, with an obvious caring person like Mrs. Sheehan it must have being very difficult splitting herself away from her family. Few of us would be willing to do so. Taking care of her sick mother must now be her first priority. Hopefully her mother's health problem will be resolved soon, and for the best. Then I expect we will see an unencumbered lady plague georgie at every turn. He can never beat her. She has nothing to lose. She is a lady. He is not worthy of human.

The scum who gloried in her marital difficulties will of course glory in her mother's health problems. They will be the same people who glory in the sacrifice of young men's lives in an illegal war. I am spirited up in the belief that georgie will spend his days out of office in court or jail. Unless he does a deal before 2008, no incoming president would dare pardon him his sins against humanity. Unlike Pol Pot or Idi Amin there will be no hiding place for georgie and his leer. A promise, it'll be the bottle he will re-find and not reborn again and again. This time daddy will not save his ass. He has brought the bush name into disrepute.

[PatrickHenry]

Quote by: righthand I am spirited up in the belief that georgie will spend his days out of office in court or jail. Unless he does a deal before 2008, no incoming president would dare pardon him his sins against humanity. Unlike Pol Pot or Idi Amin there will be no hiding place for georgie and his leer. A promise, it'll be the bottle he will re-find and not reborn again and again. This time daddy will not save his ass. He has brought the bush name into disrepute.

Living in a dream world, righthand. The top of the food chain never gets eaten. They eat the small fry.