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Old Aug 9, 2005, 04:32 pm   #21 (permalink) (top)
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Im sorry guys but I have to agree with Vicchio on this one. Too many times have I seen Black people put into power for calling whites racist and using affirmative action. I see those that do that as greedy slugs and i think it is nothing but a scam. I cant stand Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson.

I judge people not by the color of their skin....but by there attitudes and character. I think it is wrong that a white person be rejected from a University so that they can make room for someone of another race. Even if the white person has the higher grades and such. Yes this happens. People should not be hired or accepted based on the color of skin but rather for the best man for the job.

I can't stand people that call others racist simply because they don't agree wiht what the black man says. Sometimes what the black "leaders" say is wrong. What judge Mathis said is wrong. Think if a white guy got up and said something like that. Think if a white guy got up and spoke out against Al Sharpton like Al sharpton does to whites. Why is it that the white guy would be called a racist but the black guy gets away with it? Doesnt this seem kinda wierd. I understand that slavery and what the whites did to the blacks was wrong. Thats why we teach against it in our schools. So that it will never happen again. I agree slavery should never happen again. But I think that the blacks have carried it WAY too far when companies get sued for not hireing a black person but they do hire a white person. Once again you hire the best man for the job (common sense). Why dont more people call affirmative action and other things of that nature racist? Think if you got fired from a major company simply because that company had not hired enough black people and they suddenly had to make up for it or else they would get sued. Thats rediculous. I also hate how people say that the Confederate Flag and what the fighting south stood for was nothing but hatred. And just the site of a confederate flag is immediately called racist. If you think this then you need a history lesson. Only 5% of the fighting south owned slaves. Many southerners were fighting simply to protect their homeland.
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Old Aug 9, 2005, 10:24 pm   #22 (permalink) (top)
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Yeah, I talked down to Caduceus, 'cause he/she was pokin' a relationship that goes waaay back ...
Yes, a relationship that obviously has been conducted on a public forum where other people can weigh in on the topic.
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So now here's Mykdanek further misunderstanding the whole thing
What exactly am I misunderstanding or can't you stop your fingers from typing nonsense?
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Old Aug 9, 2005, 10:26 pm   #23 (permalink) (top)
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I was gonna add my input to this thread but 7 Swildo 7 pretty much said everything I was going to.
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Old Aug 10, 2005, 01:37 am   #24 (permalink) (top)
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PH and I agree on some things, disagree on others, and agree to disagree on many things.

PH likes ot poke things at me. This is one. It's a losing fight IMHO, but it's again.. my fault for being honest. And his for taking that too an extreme it was never meant.

I leave the final judgement to others. I know where I stand at the end of the day, and those that know me in RL would laugh at his claims. That's more then enough for me.


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Old Aug 10, 2005, 01:50 am   #25 (permalink) (top)
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Since when is "Judge" Mathis a "Black Dem Leader"?

"Everyone's a little bit racist / Sometimes. / Doesn't mean we go around comitting / Hate crimes."


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Old Aug 10, 2005, 06:55 pm   #26 (permalink) (top)
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"Everyone's a little bit racist / Sometimes. / Doesn't mean we go around comitting / Hate crimes."
sorry belverron, but im not exactly sure what you are tryin to say. could you give it it to me in simpler terms
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Old Aug 10, 2005, 09:49 pm   #27 (permalink) (top)
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It's a song. It means exactly what it says....


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Old Aug 10, 2005, 10:00 pm   #28 (permalink) (top)
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Beg pardon? Are you talking about Democrats circa 1860? Or are you referring to the 20th Century Dixiecrats, the Southern Democrats-in-name-only who would prefer to die before joining the party of Abraham Lincoln? At least, until the Democratic party started leading the way towards desegregation. Suddenly the Republican party was looking more attractive and the Dixiecrats converted in droves... Strom Thurmond, Jesse Helms, Trent Lott, etc.

Mehlman wasn't apologizing for ancient history, Doc, he was apologizing for a cynical policy that's elected every Republican president in the last 40 years, including St. Dutch and Dear Leader, who's sitting in the White House as we speak and who still refuses to address the NAACP.

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Why bother apologizing, then, when they can just wait another half-century and let everyone forget?

Really, who cares, besides blacks, who have led themselves into their own political irrelevance, anyway?


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Old Aug 10, 2005, 10:03 pm   #29 (permalink) (top)
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I live in an area where it's probably only 30% caucasian (I'm caucasian also) and haven't had any real problems. I'd say it's 50% black and 20% hispanic or asian. My wife is an asian lady also (and one of the nicest women you'll meet).

Anyway, the point is most people get along just fine. It's mostly the media that tries to egg people on, though I don't believe a black person feels comfortable at a primarily white event or visa versa. That's just nature.

But there IS enforced institutionalized racism ... and I happen to be in the minority here. Someday we'll have all the racial check boxes and quotas gone and then people can truly say the civil rights movement has ended.

Minorities (including ideological) vary depending on where you live. I think mostly racial issues are propogated in a top down manner to keep people played against each other, while ignoring the real problems.


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Old Aug 10, 2005, 10:31 pm   #30 (permalink) (top)
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Why bother apologizing, then, when they can just wait another half-century and let everyone forget?
What Sonart was trying to tell you is that the old Southern Democrats are now all Republicans. So, who should apologize?


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Old Aug 10, 2005, 10:49 pm   #31 (permalink) (top)
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Anyway, the point is most people get along just fine.
I agree....I live here in Georgia and there really are not that many problems. Other than Black people complaining that the Georgia state flag had the rebel flag on it. Now we don't and all we have is a blue flag with a silver peice in the middle. Its hidious now. other than that there really are no problems.

I can't stand people who over exagerate about this kinda stuff. If one whit eperson speaks out against a black person they are automatically considered racist which is incredibly rediculous.
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Old Aug 10, 2005, 11:12 pm   #32 (permalink) (top)
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Of course it's rediculous, but it's an industry. I seriously doubt the sincerity of many of the "leaders" that live well off who complain about "racists" at the drop off a hat. Jesse Jackson complains, starts marches... and then demands money for example.

While I am not going to claim there are no racist white people, I find many of these claims seem founded more on possibilities rather then realities. Many of the claims fuel the fires that givevotes, money and power to those making them.

Any "white" guy dumb enough to open his mouth is smacked down, and black person.. an uncle tom.


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Old Aug 10, 2005, 11:32 pm   #33 (permalink) (top)
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I agree....I live here in Georgia and there really are not that many problems. Other than Black people complaining that the Georgia state flag had the rebel flag on it. Now we don't and all we have is a blue flag with a silver peice in the middle. Its hidious now. other than that there really are no problems.

I can't stand people who over exagerate about this kinda stuff. If one whit eperson speaks out against a black person they are automatically considered racist which is incredibly rediculous.
What's a shame is that the legislation, in the interest of trying to "equalize" things, treats people unfairly depending on their race and then, I think, people resent it. Instead of equal justice we base laws on irrelevant social conditions and it just aggrevates things.

Instead of focusing on detering harmful actions and staying focused on stopping criminal actions, they try to delve into the social engineering realm believing they can change society. And then we have emotion police that applies laws vairably regarding criminal actions depending on whether a person is happy or angry etc. (a.k.a. hate crime laws) as if someone who pummels you out of love shouldn't be punished the same as anyone else who did the same or if you're going to rob someones home, be sure to videotape yourself throwing a dart at a phonebook, so you can show it was a pure random selection

You can see the same insanity in tons of other laws too where things are moved into the irrelevant social realm. Like they want to pass a law prohibiting minors from using a cell phone while driving. Well, what about people changing their radio stations or people grooming themselves in the mirror etc. Do we need a ton of laws detailing our lives or are we missing the very simple law that even a 7 year old can understand against reckless driving - if someone is driving erratically an appears a danger to others, it shouldn't matter whether they are drunk or tired, it's the imminent danger that is a problem not the detailed social life of the individual. Oh, and they passed a law against using silly string on Halloween here in CA. As if it's ok to trash someones place on other days, or using toilet paper instead.

Too many problems to fix ... not enough time.


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