2008 Presidential Election

[Sonart]

Quote by: monty Wow Prometheus, learn somethiing new every day! I didn't know Americans still referred to negros as niggers.

We don't. Prometheus and others, myself included, occassionally use the word for sarcastic affect... in this case to suggest that the South might have problems voting for a black women. You know, as in it defies the logic of the "Southern Strategy" which the Republican Party just recently apologized for employing in all the recent Presidential elections.

We don't actually call them 'negroes', either.
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[PatrickHenry]

The very idea that the Republican Party would select as a nominee a black woman, is ludicrous...

[monty of ll]

Sonart- I suspected that may have been the case with Prometheus' nigger comment and you have made it clear. My personal preference would be to stay away from it altogether as seems to be the preference of Canadians but I guess it can't be doing much harm if it's used as a sarcastic comment. Not to interrupt this thread in any way but it did seem like somthing that I should get clear about this forum. Probably would make it alright to call Bush and the neocons a bunch of Nazis too if it was meant as sarcasm.

[belverron]

Oh, we're not all that sarcastic when we say that.

And welcome.

[Sonart]

Quote by: Belveron Oh, we're not all that sarcastic when we say that.

I don't think anyone would have the balls to say it in here and mean it, Belveron. (Although I had to laugh seeing someone earnestly use the word 'Poofs' for gays on another thread) But I do tend to put "quotation" marks when I use it, just in case .

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[monty of ll]

Not to worry Sonart and belverron, I can usually tell when people use such words to describe minorities if they are using those words in a vicious way or they are using them as sarcasm. But it usually takes me about a half dozen posts by an individual to determine where they are really coming from.

[PatrickHenry]

Off-topic, but "queer" was out of favor for homosexuals a few years ago. Now it is not un-PC. It figures in the name for a popular TV series.

As to the similarities between the Bush gang and Hitler's thugs; there are certain similarities, even if the differences are significant. Bush and Hitler their are similarities

On the election of the next President: When will there be someone from outside the establishment? What does it take to have someone elected who is not a part of the conspiracy against freedom?

[belverron]

Just try addressing me as "queer", PatrickHenry.

[Osborn F Enready]

Hello queer Patrick Henry.

[PatrickHenry]

Quote by: belverron Just try addressing me as "queer", PatrickHenry.

No offense intended. My apology.

[Rainbow]

Quote by: Sonart It's 180 degree wrong conventional wisdom like this that conservatives so love to tell each other just before the bus of reality runs them over. Just ask George Bush the elder. Giuliani rose to one occassion. Running in a presidential campaign, however, folks will start to find out why New Yorkers booted him out of office just before 9/11..

#1
H. Clinton is a political joke.

#2
R. Giuliani was the New York City's Mayor during 09/11 events.
He was not booted, but :
- left the New York City' Office due to his health (read : prostate) and personal/private (read : divorce) reasons

Bloomberg has got the New York City's Mayoral post, because there was no real political opposition, while his the "most serious" political opponent had less than 3 months for a political campaign.
Practically, Giuliani left and Bloomberg has taken over the post "for free".

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Quote by: PatrickHenry Off-topic, but "queer" was out of favor for homosexuals a few years ago. Now it is not un-PC. It figures in the name for a popular TV series. As to the similarities between the Bush gang and Hitler's thugs; there are certain similarities, even if the differences are significant. Bush and Hitler their are similarities On the election of the next President: When will there be someone from outside the establishment? What does it take to have someone elected who is not a part of the conspiracy against freedom?

Personally I think the election's are perminently wrigged. Voting will no-longer have an impact, nation rise and fall and I think America is coming to an end in the next 30 years. It lasted longer a lot of nations, but I think it's over, it's moral democratic values have died out, and the rest of the world get's angrier and angrier at America. Maybe after the chaos dims down a little, we'll have a hegemony, a global government.

[7 Swildo 7]

If Condi were up for election who would the conservative south vote for? They can't vote for a woman - especially a nigger.

Ok I am from the South and very Conservative and I am white. Me and most of my family and friends would def. vote for Condi way before Hilary. Its wierd most of the people who don't live in the south misinterpret what the south is. Many think it is very racist down here....It really isnt (at least from my point of view).

[Sonart]

Quote by: Rainbow #1 H. Clinton is a political joke.

No, Rainbow, she's not. But by all means, you all just keep on telling yourselves that.

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[ericsp23]

Hilary is very well liked by the Democratic base, so if she were to run, it is very possible that she would get the Democratic nomination. If the Democrats want to win in the general election though, they will need someone who can turn some red states into blue states, and I doubt Hilary can do that (with the possible exception of Arkansas, which wouldn't be enough). The results would probably be similar to what happened in 2004, a close election, but a clear victory for the Republicans in the electoral college. Of course I am assuming that the Republicans will nominate a viable candidate. If they don't then all bets are off.
If the Democrats want to win I think they will need to nominate a Southern or Midwestern white male, Edwards or Clark probably being the best possible candidates of those considered likely to run. I think that is the only way they will be able to turn red states into blue states.

[gr8fuldaniel]

Transcript MR. RUSSERT: But you’re thinking about running for president in ‘08? SEN. EDWARDS: It is something I’m considering, yes.

Very end of Todays Meet the Press.

How refreshing it would be to have an intelligent, compassionate, handsome President for a change.

The stuttering chimp puppet act is really getting on my nerves.

How does a candidate lose all three debates (by no small margin) and still win the election? Easy, CHEAT like theres no law against it!

If Edwards had his way, we would have had another "one-term bush".
Plenty suspicious about that 04 election and he was willing to fight for every last vote. If the votes arent treated with all due respect, you end up with the best cheater winning.

America deserves better.

We deserve very real election reform and Republitards are not showing the inclination to bring that change.
They like a hackable vote. Where would they be without it?

As for the rest on your list (I am glad you put Edwards at the top), I like Russ Feingold and Barbara Boxer, too. (Boxer is not on your list even though she is more a champion for Democracy than many dems put together)

The Reps want Hillary to run, they have the proper artillery for that gal.

She has betrayed Americans far and wide by signing the bankruptcy bill among other serious misteps.

[gr8fuldaniel]

Oh Yeah,
Al Gore!

He won before, he can do it again!

He has been sounding very Presidential.

Dumbya still sounds like Duh, ummm, er.... Its Hard Work. (What a retard)

[Osborn F Enready]

Hmmmm evil vs evil......... nope, no choice. Thanks anyway.

[gr8fuldaniel]

Not voting IS a vote.

[gr8fuldaniel]

We need to rise up in mass, and throw the bums out.

If you dont vote to overthrow, you are voting to keep them in, in absentia.