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Old Oct 6, 2003, 02:01 pm   #41 (permalink) (top)
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Fundamentalis Christianity is the most radical form of Christianity. My dictionary quote was of murder, which does pertain to the subject. Yes, there is a quest to convert people to Christianity. The word Jihad doesn't belong anywhere near that sentence, and is poor use of the word.
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Old Oct 7, 2003, 06:02 am   #42 (permalink) (top)
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Originally posted by Section 8@10-06-2003 02:01 PM
Fundamentalis Christianity is the most radical form of Christianity. My dictionary quote was of murder, which does pertain to the subject. Yes, there is a quest to convert people to Christianity. The word Jihad doesn't belong anywhere near that sentence, and is poor use of the word.
Yes there is a Christian quest to convert people to God, we give a choice, Muslims will not.
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Old Oct 7, 2003, 10:48 am   #43 (permalink) (top)
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Ha, talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Crusades, Spanish Inquisition, Byzantines, and Diaspora. And no the Christians don't give a choice, if your in prison which has this system, then your going to have to go through it. Where are the Muslims forcibly converting people?
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Old Oct 7, 2003, 10:56 am   #44 (permalink) (top)
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Actually, FA, it was the Muslims who were the most tolerant of the religious views of people within their borders. So long as they were loyal politically, they could believe in whomever they want. Why do you think there were still Jews after the Assryians and Babylonians conquered Israel? How do you think there are Christians and Jews in Turkey? Now, why aren't there any Muslim moors any more in Spain?


. . . whenever any government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new government, laying its foundations on such principles and organizing its powers in such forms as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.
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Old Oct 7, 2003, 11:04 am   #45 (permalink) (top)
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FA, I highly recommend that you read the Qu'ran. It's actually very interesting, because some information that had not been discovered yet is in the Qu'ran. Also it would clear all your misconceptions of Islam.
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Old Oct 8, 2003, 12:55 am   #46 (permalink) (top)
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Ha, talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Crusades, Spanish Inquisition, Byzantines, and Diaspora. And no the Christians don't give a choice, if your in prison which has this system, then your going to have to go through it. Where are the Muslims forcibly converting people?
Indonesia, Banlgedesh, Malayasia, Pakistan, Eygpt, the middle East pretty much
Did you even read any of my research I posted earlier on Muslim aggression in the modern world.
And please, you can only use the Middle ages and conquests of the new world as examples of Christian brutality so many times, it is nothing compared to the damage the Muslims throughout History have wraught.
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Old Oct 8, 2003, 02:42 am   #47 (permalink) (top)
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Hmmmmmmmmmm, lets see.
Christians- 8-9 million
Muslims- 1-2 million
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Old Oct 8, 2003, 02:57 am   #48 (permalink) (top)
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Hmmmmmmmmmm, lets see.
Christians- 8-9 million
Muslims- 1-2 million
???
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Old Oct 9, 2003, 01:44 am   #49 (permalink) (top)
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Sorry about that bad post. I was trying to state that religious clensing has been commited by Christians more than Muslims.
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Old Oct 10, 2003, 10:40 pm   #50 (permalink) (top)
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Sorry about that bad post. I was trying to state that religious clensing has been commited by Christians more than Muslims.

No the Muslims have that one wrapped up pretty nicely, they are still doing it too.
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Old Oct 24, 2003, 08:49 am   #51 (permalink) (top)
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Count me in as one of the "bigots".

I have no sympathy for people like that. I'm surprised our socialist protestors are supporting them! Have you forgotten the Russian Communist anti-Islamic crusade in Afghanistan? Or the exterminations of Islamic Russian minorities in the 40s?


Just goes to show these days, the leftists are supporting terrorists in order to get their political message across. Soon we'll see terrorist bombings by the Socialist protestors. No wait....too late. Its been happening in Europe since the 60s.


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Old Oct 24, 2003, 08:50 am   #52 (permalink) (top)
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</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Section 8,)
If they're in prison for life then they most likely will not be murdering anyone else. You're just as guilty as they're.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>

Prison for life? Doesn't Indonesia have the world's highest prison escape rates? Australians will know the news flash about the terrorist bomber who escaped from an Indonesian prison by climbing from the windows....


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Old Oct 24, 2003, 09:54 am   #53 (permalink) (top)
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</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (castille,)
Count me in as one of the "bigots".

I have no sympathy for people like that. I'm surprised our socialist protestors are supporting them! Have you forgotten the Russian Communist anti-Islamic crusade in Afghanistan? Or the exterminations of Islamic Russian minorities in the 40s?


Just goes to show these days, the leftists are supporting terrorists in order to get their political message across. Soon we'll see terrorist bombings by the Socialist protestors. No wait....too late. Its been happening in Europe since the 60s.
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We were against the Soviet Unions invasion of Afghanistan because it was blatant imperialism, as were all expansions by the USSR.

We're against the war in Iraq because, shock horror, its blatant imperialism again.


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Old Oct 24, 2003, 10:25 am   #54 (permalink) (top)
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For the last time I DONT SUPPORT THE USSR. Christ its like I'm talking to a brick wall.
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Old Oct 25, 2003, 05:20 am   #55 (permalink) (top)
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Doesn't your own medicine taste bitter?

Your assumptions on capitalists aren't any better.


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Old Oct 25, 2003, 10:53 am   #56 (permalink) (top)
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Why does it seem to me, Castille, that you have really selective reading?

Section 8 Posted on 10-24-2003 10:25 AM
"For the last time I .... SUPPORT THE USSR. Christ ... I like talking ..."

I fear that this is what you actually got from that post...


. . . whenever any government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new government, laying its foundations on such principles and organizing its powers in such forms as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.
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Old Oct 25, 2003, 12:14 pm   #57 (permalink) (top)
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Assumptions on capitalists, what the hell are you talking about.
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Old Oct 27, 2003, 08:48 am   #58 (permalink) (top)
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So you guys don't make assumptions on capitalists?

Go back and read every single one of your posts.


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Old Oct 27, 2003, 09:51 am   #59 (permalink) (top)
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I THOUGHT YOU WERE REFERRING TO CAPITALISTS AS A CLASS, NOT A THEORY.

(MAYBE IF I WRITE IN CAPS, YOU'LL UNDERSTAND.)
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Old Nov 2, 2003, 11:41 am   #60 (permalink) (top)
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You thought, you thought.

Its all about you isn't it? Well what you thought is wrong.


Capitalist is NOT a class OR a theory. Its something thats never actually existed, and maybe never will.

I find it amusing Communists are dedicating themselves to exterminating a force that has never existed.


And writing in caps is immature.


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