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![]() Moderator Location: Reading, UK. Posts: 7,197 | Again with the stereotyping. :rolleyes: My solution isn't to ignore those who aren't corrupt and suffering just because of a few dictators. I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered. -George Best, on being asked what he did with his footballing fortunes. |
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| Principled Observer Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 13,907 | My solution is to cut the world OFF from U.S. aid dollars, until we get our own nest clean. Petition of Redress of Grievances: http://www.givemeliberty.org/default.htm Canadian Lawsuit Against Their National Banks: http://www.freewebs.com/classaction/ Osborn F. Enready |
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| | #44 (permalink) (top) |
![]() Moderator Location: Reading, UK. Posts: 7,197 | Whilst I appreciate your isolationist stance, Osbourn, what do you propose for Africa, not America? I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered. -George Best, on being asked what he did with his footballing fortunes. |
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![]() 9/11: Inside Job Location: Hawai'i, Big Island Posts: 10,455 | Quote:
http://www.pbs.org/opb/thenewheroes/meet/zulu.html Quote:
http://www.humana.org/TextPage.asp?M...MenuItemID=138 "Arms in the hands of the citizens may be used at individual discretion for the defense of the country, the overthrow of tyranny or private self-defense." -- John Adams | ||
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| | #46 (permalink) (top) |
| Redskins Rule Location: South-Western Virginia Posts: 2,564 | I am now convinced that tinybear is not at all interested in what is right, but only in what is convient to and good for what she/he (not sure which) preceives as our interests. Everything is a cold calculation. And if something does not fit within the preproscibed world-view, rationalize or dismiss, but never truely engage the issue... Racism- Not my fault, why should I pay? Fuck 'em if they can't throw off oppression that lasted until the late 60's and become just as addept at manipulating the system as we "real" Americans are. Homosexuals- Weirdos who's existance makes me uncomfortable so they should have enough respect for me to stay in the closet where they belong. Their rights don't matter as much as mine because might makes right and the might of numbers is behind me. Terrorism- Caused by the fact that those nasty A-Rabs are by their very nature evil and worth only the energy it takes to smote them. I will not argue with or respond anymore to someone who so clearly has a different set of value norms than my own. It is as futile as asking water not to be wet. I will grant that water has no choice but to be wet, and one must choose to be that closed minded and obstinate, but once that choice has been made and defended, unless God comes down from the heavens and instucts tinybear to change, tinybear will remain my philosophical opposite. All I see when I look down, something jumpin' on the ground, Scratchin' dirt, cluckin' in the barnyard - Tell me, could that be you? John Kay |
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| | #47 (permalink) (top) |
![]() Throbbing Member Location: Old Europe Posts: 7,444 | Not that I would dream of standing up for tiny, and I think you've put the cuddly little thing's views in a nutshell, Isb. But Africa has been a terrible sinkhole for aid money channelled through governments (with the honourable exceptions of Botswana and company). But there are a hell of a lot of good organizations working in Africa on down-to-earth projects that give locals a stake in their success and continuation. These organizations -- some run by the (scream, shudder) United Nations, others by lefty do-gooders and still others by Christan do-gooders -- are worthy of our tax money. They really do a lot with it. "I wish I was as cocksure of anything as Tom Macaulay is of everything." -- Viscount Melbourne |
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| Pragmatist Location: UK London Posts: 1,979 | The fact is whatever is in the history books we have a moral obligation to help our fellow humans. All that is left to decide is how. I wouldn't recommend sex, drugs and insanity for everyone, but its always worked for me. Never think that war, no matter how necessary, nor how justified, is not a crime." (Ernest Hemingway) |
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| Chief Hashier Location: Scotland Posts: 46 | Quote:
We've imposed policies which have absolutely DEVASTATED Africa for our own benefit. AFRICANS WORK FOR NEXT TO NOTHING SO WE CAN GROW RICHER. He who dares Wins | |
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![]() Volcanic Erupter Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 7,333 | Africans work for next to nothing so their corrupt and dictatorial rulers can live in luxury and every few years or so they get raped, maimed and murdered. Yeah, and guess who is demanding more aid from the west? Yep. Those corrupt dictatorial African rulers. Gee, shall we give in to their demands, ya think? |
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![]() Throbbing Member Location: Old Europe Posts: 7,444 | Sadly, an African seat or two on the SC would probably change absolutely nothing for the average African. Still, it isn't every day the UN undergoes this sort of change so it isn't surprising that demands are being made. After all, tiny, what do you think all the fuss has been about between the Chinese and Japanese recently? The Chinese are sitting pretty at the UN -- they're on the SC but don't pay for anything. The Japanese, on the other hand, pay bigtime and aren't on the SC. This is politics. "I wish I was as cocksure of anything as Tom Macaulay is of everything." -- Viscount Melbourne |
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| Chief Hashier Location: Scotland Posts: 46 | Quote:
If so, you're denying accepted fact. Yes, corrupt African leaders are a problem. The West is partly responsible for that situation. BUT...it's only part of the problem. Africa is subject to an economic trap - a trap which ensures we benefit from the toils of starving Africans. We force Africans to buy OUR goods while refusing to allow them access to our markets. THIS IS THE REAL PROBLEM. Free trade? There's no such thing! He who dares Wins | |
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| Chief Hashier Location: Scotland Posts: 46 | Quote:
He who dares Wins | |
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![]() Volcanic Erupter Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 7,333 | Quote:
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![]() Moderator Location: Reading, UK. Posts: 7,197 | UN Organisations and other charities do that already, tb, in several cases. There's simply not enough to go round right now - though the $50bn pledged by the G8 should help. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4666769.stm I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered. -George Best, on being asked what he did with his footballing fortunes. |
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