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Old Jun 17, 2005, 12:10 am   #1 (permalink) (top)
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Mercury in Vaccines Causing Autism

And the Feds knew it and covered it up. Parents are steamed.

http://www.truthout.org/issues_05/061605HA.shtml

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When a study revealed that mercury in childhood vaccines may have caused autism in thousands of kids, the government rushed to conceal the data - and to prevent parents from suing drug companies for their role in the epidemic.

Whose feet need to be held to the fire in this case? The Pharma companies? The Bureaucrats? The Politicians?

Accountability has to land somewhere...


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Old Jun 17, 2005, 03:35 am   #2 (permalink) (top)
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I checked your headline with google, and about 90% of the sources are conspiracy sites or dodgy law firm ads.

I did find 1 credible site, http://www.vaccinationnews.com/Daily...risMercLaw.htm

Basically, according to the US Public Health Service, the government has been warning that vaccines which contain thimerosal should be discontinued until further information has been researched.

In other words, sorry PatrickHenry, this ain't a conspiracy. First its still not conclusive. Second, the government has been warning people since 1999.


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Old Jun 17, 2005, 08:28 am   #3 (permalink) (top)
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Really old, non-news.

The risks of not getting one's kids vaccinated continues to be higher than the risks of vaccination. Multiple studies have not found any relationship between vaccines and autism.

Interesting, at least to me, one of the sceptics of these studies is Representative Dave Weldon, R Florida, an MD, who also asserted, that in his professional opinion, Terri Schiavo was not in a persistant vegetative state.

Experts Find No Vaccine-Autism Link


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Old Jun 17, 2005, 11:06 am   #4 (permalink) (top)
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I really think that one of these crackpots should have to see their child get full blown measles, and just let them witness the damage that their scare-mongering has done. MMR has saved millions of childrens from the horrors of full blown measles. I would love to know where the authors of that article got their information regarding the mercury. Since most vaccines are produced by bio-engineering and no chemical processes are involved at all.....where does the mercury come from? Also where did these people get the link with mercury and autism from? This is same kinda shit that in the society and rights debate regarding the Pharmaceutical industry started by Mia.


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Old Jun 17, 2005, 11:16 am   #5 (permalink) (top)
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Umm...Mods, can you clean this garbage up?

This is the second thread now were PH has come on here under the pretense of truthful reporting with some BS quote from some scare site that is completely biased...and frankly, it just smells.
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Old Jun 17, 2005, 11:23 am   #6 (permalink) (top)
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it doesn't smell any worse than the crap you post.
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Old Jun 17, 2005, 11:42 am   #7 (permalink) (top)
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PH is passing out literature for his group. These are serious issues of Government hiding the truth from us to profit big oil.

9/11.. Vaccines...

Next we'll learn there were no moon landings, H.A.R.P. is really a weather control weapons system gon haywaire causing global warming, and flouride is a mind altering substance designed to pacify the massess for global take over by the Illuminati.


Einstein's "Theory of Relativity" is still being challenged to this day, but by consensus Global Warming is a fact... that's REAL science at work, why didn't Albert just go that route?
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Old Jun 17, 2005, 11:53 am   #8 (permalink) (top)
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Buzzwords are about the only thing Vicchio's got....
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Old Jun 17, 2005, 11:54 am   #9 (permalink) (top)
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It's funny, becuse the government has released studies of high levels of mercury in marine life, and pregnant women should not eat any fish, because: mercury causes autism. Nothing new., they've known about it for years.


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Old Jun 17, 2005, 12:02 pm   #10 (permalink) (top)
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Vicchio defines cognitive dissonance, Al. Don't mind him. He a trotskyite and doesn't even know it.

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Old Jun 17, 2005, 12:25 pm   #11 (permalink) (top)
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I got reality, ya'll got secret evils that only those smart like yourselves can see.

Keep hunting them vampires, you might even find one someday.....


Einstein's "Theory of Relativity" is still being challenged to this day, but by consensus Global Warming is a fact... that's REAL science at work, why didn't Albert just go that route?
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Old Jun 17, 2005, 12:29 pm   #12 (permalink) (top)
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More buzzwords. See what I mean, Al?
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Old Jun 17, 2005, 12:33 pm   #13 (permalink) (top)
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Lou, do you know what H.A.R.P. is?

How about Chem Trails and Flouride.. do you buy the secret government plots behind those?

Mercury in Vaccines was debunked, quite a while back, bringing it up is scare-mongering non-sense.


Einstein's "Theory of Relativity" is still being challenged to this day, but by consensus Global Warming is a fact... that's REAL science at work, why didn't Albert just go that route?
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Old Jun 17, 2005, 12:40 pm   #14 (permalink) (top)
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I've heard it all, Vicchio.

Mercury in Vaccines debunked??? Who are you kidding? Do you have any idea what one of the main ingrediantes in thermerisol is? The argument isn't IF it's in vaccines it's whether it is dangerous. Wow....
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Old Jun 17, 2005, 01:23 pm   #15 (permalink) (top)
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Hate to interrupt the insulting one liners with real content, but I couldn't help myself.

From the previously posted, but no doubt unread, link:

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The Institute of Medicine panel said five observational studies "consistently provided evidence of no association" between thimerosal and autism in Sweden, Denmark, the United States and Britain. A similar number of studies that do suggest a link are small, uninterpretable, unpublished or poorly designed, it said.

Fourteen studies, including nine controlled ones, found no association between the MMR vaccine and autism. Three that found a connection are poorly designed or offer very indirect evidence that could be explained in other ways, the authors said.

Much of the support for the idea that vaccines may cause autism arises from the fact that the neurological illness usually becomes evident after age 3 -- sometimes with dramatic social regression and loss of language -- at a time when children are getting multiple immunizations.

In the case of thimerosal, the underlying biological mechanism was thought to be that some children are unusually sensitive to mercury, a known neurotoxin, even though the amount in shots is minuscule. (Since 2000, thimerosal has been taken out of all routinely given childhood vaccines.)
Experts Find No Vaccine-Autism Link


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Old Jun 17, 2005, 01:57 pm   #16 (permalink) (top)
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Oh, damn.

Thank you RickSp.

I don't mind when people raise concerns... but my step mom is an OB-GYN Nurse, and she sees these ladies come in and they refuse to immunize or at least.. try too, thier kids based on junk science. The real danger is not immunizing the kids.


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Old Jun 17, 2005, 01:59 pm   #17 (permalink) (top)
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Junk science? You just claimed vaccines don't have mercury in them. Now, they do but it's all OK. Doublethink....
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Old Jun 17, 2005, 02:01 pm   #18 (permalink) (top)
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In the case of thimerosal, the underlying biological mechanism was thought to be that some children are unusually sensitive to mercury, a known neurotoxin, even though the amount in shots is minuscule. (Since 2000, thimerosal has been taken out of all routinely given childhood vaccines.)
Do you know that Mercury is a common element occuring in nature and there is no way to prevent exposure on a day to day basis?


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Old Jun 17, 2005, 02:39 pm   #19 (permalink) (top)
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No it isn't (I think you are thinking of arsonic). It's actually very rare. But that doesn't negate the fact that you stated there is no mercury in vaccines (which is false).

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Old Jun 17, 2005, 03:04 pm   #20 (permalink) (top)
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Quote by: RickSp
Hate to interrupt the insulting one liners with real content, but I couldn't help myself.

From the previously posted, but no doubt unread, link:



Experts Find No Vaccine-Autism Link
I read that over a year ago....

From the CDC:
http://www.altcorp.com/DentalInformation/cdcnip.htm
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The IOM Immunization Safety Review Committee’s most important conclusions were 1) that the evidence is inadequate to accept or reject a causal relationship between exposure to thimerosal from vaccines and the neurodevelopmental disorders of autism, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), and speech or language delay, and 2) that although the hypothesis that exposure to thimerosal-containing vaccines could be associated with neurodevelopmental disorders is not established and rests on indirect and incomplete information, primarily from analogies with methyl mercury and levels of maximum mercury exposure from vaccines given in children, the hypothesis is biologically plausible.
I haven't weighed in because I have no idea. I don't have the education to comment. But...
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