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Johnson · Sep 8, 2003, 03:17 am

Nationalism - Corporatism - State
This is Fascism.

Discuss Fascism, I will pop in to dispell your widely believed myths about both Fascism as a political ideology, and Fascist history.

indierockboy · Sep 8, 2003, 03:25 am

what a great way to start a topic. you give us something to discuss, with the intent of telling us we are all wrong and you are right. where is a rolling eyes icon when you need it?

Johnson · Sep 8, 2003, 03:27 am

I'm just curious what your impressions are.

G. Adams · Sep 8, 2003, 09:05 am

The notion of a state or country, for anything but geography is an outdated one. So, in my opinion, the glorification of the nation is a dead concept.

RebelWithanAK · Sep 8, 2003, 01:41 pm

I have a feeling that whatever answer I give, the response will be an advertisement for the CEO's utopian view of the corporatist "third way." So out with it!

G. Adams · Sep 9, 2003, 07:56 pm

Why don't you outline the main concepts of fascism, then we'll take issue with them? Then you can deal with our 'misconceptions'.

GreatWyrm of Babylon · Sep 11, 2003, 12:51 am

Like has already been stated, I am relunctant to debate someone that has such poor debate skills as to phrase his setup so badly.

Sep 13, 2003, 10:42 am

It makes me wonder how one can really go beynd "facists oppress people".. I mean, we were all brainwas.. er, taught, in middle school all about those evil NAZIs and how they trampled over the "rights" of their citizens. But a whole topic, dedicated to the principles of denying basic priveledges to your citizens? Why bother? There probably already is a PATRIOT Act thread.

Sep 8, 2003, 03:17 am	#1 (permalink) (top)
Johnson Sedimentary Rock Location: WA Posts: 17	Nationalism - Corporatism - State This is Fascism. Discuss Fascism, I will pop in to dispell your widely believed myths about both Fascism as a political ideology, and Fascist history. What Is American Corporatism? <span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>Corporatism blends socialism and capitalism not by giving each control of different parts of the economy, but by combining socialism's promise of a government-guaranteed flow of material goods with capitalism's private ownership and management.</span> <span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>Legislative representation is given to industries and workers' societies. Workers and employers are organized into syndicates known as "corporations" according to their industries, and these groups are given representation in a legislative body.</span> <span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>We believe in national government, collective solutions, corporatist economics, State intervention and the “Third Way.” We are anti-globalist and anti-communist. We are freedom.</span> "We are denied our heritage by the power of usury." - Oswald Mosley -

Sep 8, 2003, 03:25 am	#2 (permalink) (top)
indierockboy Molten Ash Location: ontario canada Posts: 104	what a great way to start a topic. you give us something to discuss, with the intent of telling us we are all wrong and you are right. where is a rolling eyes icon when you need it? http://www.autophobic.net/tmesis/sig.gif

Sep 8, 2003, 03:27 am	#3 (permalink) (top)
Johnson Sedimentary Rock Location: WA Posts: 17	I'm just curious what your impressions are. What Is American Corporatism? <span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>Corporatism blends socialism and capitalism not by giving each control of different parts of the economy, but by combining socialism's promise of a government-guaranteed flow of material goods with capitalism's private ownership and management.</span> <span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>Legislative representation is given to industries and workers' societies. Workers and employers are organized into syndicates known as "corporations" according to their industries, and these groups are given representation in a legislative body.</span> <span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>We believe in national government, collective solutions, corporatist economics, State intervention and the “Third Way.” We are anti-globalist and anti-communist. We are freedom.</span> "We are denied our heritage by the power of usury." - Oswald Mosley -

Sep 8, 2003, 09:05 am	#4 (permalink) (top)
G. Adams Fyrdman Location: Middlesbrough UK Posts: 4,152	The notion of a state or country, for anything but geography is an outdated one. So, in my opinion, the glorification of the nation is a dead concept. Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. Winston Churchill

Sep 8, 2003, 01:41 pm	#5 (permalink) (top)
RebelWithanAK Igneous Magma Location: New York City Posts: 739	I have a feeling that whatever answer I give, the response will be an advertisement for the CEO's utopian view of the corporatist "third way." So out with it! . . . whenever any government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new government, laying its foundations on such principles and organizing its powers in such forms as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.

Sep 9, 2003, 07:56 pm	#6 (permalink) (top)
G. Adams Fyrdman Location: Middlesbrough UK Posts: 4,152	Why don't you outline the main concepts of fascism, then we'll take issue with them? Then you can deal with our 'misconceptions'. Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. Winston Churchill

Sep 11, 2003, 12:51 am	#7 (permalink) (top)
GreatWyrm of Babylon Avatar of Tiamut Location: Dallas, Texas (Irving) Posts: 848	Like has already been stated, I am relunctant to debate someone that has such poor debate skills as to phrase his setup so badly.

Sep 13, 2003, 10:42 am	#8 (permalink) (top)
trigxine Guest Posts: n/a	It makes me wonder how one can really go beynd "facists oppress people".. I mean, we were all brainwas.. er, taught, in middle school all about those evil NAZIs and how they trampled over the "rights" of their citizens. But a whole topic, dedicated to the principles of denying basic priveledges to your citizens? Why bother? There probably already is a PATRIOT Act thread.