Cheney: Iraq War to End by 2009:

[GodBlessAmerica]

Quote by: belverron Perhaps, but if Iraq can't handle itself by 2009 it won't be able to do so in the forseeable future.

Don't know about that, we were in Germany for fifty years.

[Chris]

Quote by: GodBlessAmerica Just last month I found out about Iranian terrorist near me who were planning terror in the United States and they were HERE.

Yes so lets just go INVADE Iran shall we? Brilliant plan.

Quote by: GodBlessAmerica What I would like is for Islam to handle all their own radical terrorists and to leave us and the rest of the world alone, but to this point they have been lacking IMO.

Why do you think that is? Could it be our staunch support of weapons and $$$ to Israel? Maybe?

[Sonart]

Quote by: GodBlessAmerica IMO, with the new President being a former hostage taker of Americans who had previously tried to execute various leaders of other nations, I can see where Iran moves to the top of the list soon.

Your ignorance of current events does not serve your cause, GBA.

Sources: CIA finds Iranian president likely not hostage-taker

Quote by: GodBlessAmerica What I would like is for Islam to handle all their own radical terrorists and to leave us and the rest of the world alone, but to this point they have been lacking IMO.

As I'm sure Islam would like us to leave them alone and keep our 'vital-interest' inspired American hegemony out of their lands. You see any chance of that happening?

Quote by: GodBlessAmerica Don't know about that, we were in Germany for fifty years.

Because, a) no German insurgency was being supplied by fanatically pro-Nazi populations from surrounding France, Switzerland, Austria, Czeckoslovakia and Poland, and b) because East and West Germany became the front line of another war, the Soviet Union v. U.S./Western Europe Cold War. I daresay we would NOT have been in Germany for fifty years had terrorists been bombing the streets of Berlin every day and killing two Americans a day, day after day after day, for those fifty years.

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[rmnunez]

As I'm sure Islam would like us to leave them alone and keep our 'vital-interest' inspired American hegemony out of their lands.

I think international communities interact and should do so in mutual benefit, some might even argue for a larger and better integrated international Islamic community with identified spheres of influence and trade to be left alone by other comparable international communities.

[rmnunez]

You'll have to be vague on the occupation's end because it really isn't an 'occupation' in the first place -at least not from Iraq or the US' 'official' perspective. It actually is an occupation inasmuch as military forces are deployed and operate under their own command in the country with authority over the civilian government there.

The 'occupation' will end depending on how you define this. If it means any foreign military presence that could be a lot later than if you'd recognize joint military command or some sort of subordination to the local authorities.

Occupation is a laden term with immediate direct reference first to WW2 and the Germans in France, it also is readily refered to the Israeli presene in conquered territory. Neither of these examples are very positive, in the earlier it sprouted insurgency and resistance, in the latter terrorism as well, now we apply it to Iraq to distill what?