Noam Chomsky, Hero or Zero?

[Gorgo]

Quote by: The Analog Kid His support of the Communists in Vietnam is well documented. Of course, you just dismiss it.

There are lots of lies that have been documented about a lot of things on the internet, but I'm not aware of anything that he's written that supports dictatorships, necessarily. I think he has wished that the U.S. would quit supporting dictatorships, but am not aware of anything that he wrote that supported it. When you get done licking GWB's boots, you can take the time to look up a source, or you can admit that it is all a lie.

[Gorgo]

Quote by: The Analog Kid So you've been unable to find anything online and have apparently found one quote from a book.

I found it online, and if you had google where you are, which evidently you do not, you could find it online too. However, I found the source of the quote on the internet, which is in a book. In fact, much of his work is online, so if you cared to look, which you don't, you would find what you're looking for - see http://www.zmag.org/chomsky/intervie...-excerpts.html

[The Analog Kid]

There are lots of lies that have been documented about a lot of things on the internet, but I'm not aware of anything that he's written that supports dictatorships, necessarily. I think he has wished that the U.S. would quit supporting dictatorships, but am not aware of anything that he wrote that supported it. When you get done licking GWB's boots, you can take the time to look up a source, or you can admit that it is all a lie.

I don't lick GWB's boots. Never have, never will.

If everything stated about Chomsky is all lies, we have to ask ourselves why?
Why would someone go to the trouble to do such a thing when Chomsky isn't popular?

I found it online, and if you had google where you are, which evidently you do not, you could find it online too. However, I found the source of the quote on the internet, which is in a book. In fact, much of his work is online, so if you cared to look, which you don't, you would find what you're looking for - see http://www.zmag.org/chomsky/intervi...t-excerpts.html

Great. That in no way negates the point that the only positive comment you can find is one as a result of a direct question on if he has anything positive to say about the US.

[Gorgo]

I see that you don't write anything about liking oxygen. Does that mean you're one of them oxygen-hating m'fers?

[Gorgo]

Quote by: The Analog Kid If everything stated about Chomsky is all lies, we have to ask ourselves why? Why would someone go to the trouble to do such a thing when Chomsky isn't popular?

Why do people like David Horowitz do what they do? To make a buck.

[The Analog Kid]

I see that you don't write anything about liking oxygen. Does that mean you're one of them oxygen-hating m'fers?

I love oxygen. I just want Oxygen to stand up for the values and principles for which it was created upon.

[The Analog Kid]

Quote by: Gorgo Why do people like David Horowitz do what they do? To make a buck.

Why does Chomsky do what he does?

[Digital Man]

Quote by: Gorgo In an interview with David Barsamian: " It is a free society, much more so than any other, and that very freedom has led to problems. If you can't control people by force, you have to figure out other ways to control them. "

He sounds like a but-monkey. He hates America so much that he has to counter anything positive he is pressed to say about it

[Digital Man]

Quote by: fedfem most of us who do not agree with you have said we don't agree with Chomsky on all things but still respect him.

What do you respect? Specifically

[The Analog Kid]

Quote by: Digital Man He hates America so much that he has to counter anything positive he is pressed to say about it

Excellent point. Coupled with that the only reason he gave a positive response in the first place was by being asked to do so.

[Gorgo]

Quote by: The Analog Kid Why does Chomsky do what he does?

He'll tell you that he is doing well financially, which is not yet a crime in the United States. What he does is write and speak criticizing U.S. media and U.S. foreign policy. He doesn't write about ice cream or what he likes to do on Sunday. If you can find some error in what he's written, or wish to back up your lies with something of substance, please do. Otherwise, take your nonsense elsewhere.

[The Analog Kid]

He'll tell you that he is doing well financially, which is not yet a crime in the United States.

Yes. He's benefitted from the very system and nation that he makes a living off of attacking. LOL
These people rank among the lowest of the low in my opinion.
He owes this nation a debt of gratitude.

What he does is write and speak criticizing U.S. media and U.S. foreign policy. He doesn't write about ice cream or what he likes to do on Sunday.

He's anti-American. That's clear.

If you can find some error in what he's written, or wish to back up your lies with something of substance, please do. Otherwise, take your nonsense elsewhere.

What lies?

[Gorgo]

Quote by: The Analog Kid These people rank among the lowest of the low in my opinion.

I'm sure that's as important to him as it is to me.

[The Analog Kid]

You obviously felt it was important enough to respond to. LOL.

[Gorgo]

Quote by: The Analog Kid You obviously felt it was important enough to respond to. LOL.

Yes. I think it's important to respond to lies and insanities. There could be impressionable children reading, and I wouldn't want them to think the whole world has such difficulty with realtiy.

[The Analog Kid]

How is it a lie in myself opinionating that "These people rank among the lowest of the low.?

[Gorgo]

The biggest lie that comes to mind is your statement that Chomsky supports dictators. In fact, he speaks out against U.S. support of dictators.

[Mr.Vicchio]

He speaks out against US support of Dictators, yet praises dictators that are against America.

Thus his speaking out, is VERY limited and that's a dishonest statement.

[grandpa]

Quote by: The Analog Kid Sure there is. It's plurality, it's ethic, its genious, it's Constitution, it's strength, it's generous people. I can think of a zillion things.

You are obviously generalizing when you talk about American ethics and genius. There is plenty of unethical things (like our militarism) and stupid things (like our militarism).
And our constitution isn't a document our government always respects, either.

Quote by: The Analog Kid Sweden was neutral in WW2.

And they had every right to be neutral, just like any country had the right to be neutral and not allow for either of the World Wars to take place (an important thing to consider, seeing as to how WWII was heavily linked to the first one).

Quote by: The Analog Kid Well, it is not just a system of government as I've shown. A nation consists of many things outside of it's government.

But the government is what I'm criticizing, and a country is primarily a government in which people try to enforce their values upon others.

Quote by: The Analog Kid That's a shame. You feel you owe no obligation for a nation that has allowed you to persue your dreams?

I'd be able to better pursue my dreams without the arbitrary burdens of coercive capitalism, actually. If there was no risk of me getting evicted, for example, I'd have a lot better chance at succeeding.

Quote by: The Analog Kid And the world is not a perfect place. Decisions had to be made at the time which made it wise to support enemies of our enemies in order to prevent that enemy from their imperialist machinations.

Nobody had to support Saddam Hussein, especially when it did not benefit anybody other than Saddam and US corporations.

Quote by: The Analog Kid It doesn't change the fact that the nations deeply involved in the scandal were the ones that happened to be the same ones who opposed the war.

The US was also very heavily involved in the scandal. In reality, France probably didn't support the Iraq War because French people would have probably just rioted against such a decision to try and shut their government down.

Grandpa h.

[grandpa]

Quote by: Mr.Vicchio He speaks out against US support of Dictators, yet praises dictators that are against America. Thus his speaking out, is VERY limited and that's a dishonest statement.

I've read plenty of Chomsky...I haven't read one example where he praised a dictator, not one.

And it makes sense that he wouldn't, considering he's an anarcho-syndicalist.

Grandpa h.