Bush Caught In A Major Lie

**Mia** · 27th February 2004, 06:32 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Pooeypants,)
Btw, is this the Legolas in DXMP?

Anyho, I don't think this is a lie, its probably that the Chimp in suit was caught off guard with that question, you know, he didn't have a speech ready made etc, and the fact that what he says usually borders on imbecilic...who cares now?
I mean ffs, a few years back he was talking about peace between Indians and Pakistanis...he called them "Pakis" right in front their face, which is a racist term.<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

Yuo are right - that poor man can't put a sentance together without a speechwriter. Did you see him on "Meet the Press?"

**Mia** · 27th February 2004, 06:37 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by ([ÄK)
LËGÖLÄS,]I think this claim is harder for you guys to beleive since most of you aren't ready to accept that Bush and other "powers in the know" of the US gov't might have had foreknowledge of the sept 11 attacks.

All i ask is that you look into it. And keep asking questions.<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

Perfectly valid. Let's be really sure what the Hell we are talking about though and have actual proof, researched and verified, before we go making accusations of this nature and level.

Does the "big lie" posted here rise to the level of, well, anything useful at all?

**Mia** · 27th February 2004, 06:38 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (roxdog,)
BUSH SAID HE WATCHED THE FIRST PLANE HIT THE TOWER LIVE. THIS IS A FACT.<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

OK - you've cracked the case! Bring in the UN peacekeepers and impeach the man!

**Mia** · 27th February 2004, 06:46 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Mr.Vicchio,)
The media is controlled??

I find that to be.. the most absurd statement int eh world.

Woudl you give us an example of a freer press then America's?<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

Yes, please do tell the nation that has a freer press. I will start tuning in to them.

**Mia** · 27th February 2004, 06:49 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (roxdog,)

The tape of the first plane hitting WAS NOT available on 9/11. You must be mistaken. The guy that shot the film (did you see the documentary with De Niro?) was at ground zero until well into the day. When did he manage to hand off the footage to CNN in the mist of such chaos?

No, the footage of the first plane was not made available until days after 9/11...<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

I was in New York at the time. I remember it quite well, thank you. I was mesmerized by that TV while waiting to be able to get out. I turned on the TV just before the 2nd tower was hit, and they were showing footage of the 1st right away.

**dotcoma** · 27th February 2004, 06:54 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Mia,)
<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (roxdog,)
BUSH SAID HE WATCHED THE FIRST PLANE HIT THE TOWER LIVE. THIS IS A FACT.<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

OK - you've cracked the case! Bring in the UN peacekeepers and impeach the man!<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

No, just one piece of an extremely complex puzzle. And fuck the UN: Tyrannical military and propangada arm of wanna-be world government. You lefties need to educate youreselves. If I ever see a blue hat in my town, he'll wish he stuck with the family business.

**dotcoma** · 27th February 2004, 06:55 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Mia,)
<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (roxdog,)

The tape of the first plane hitting WAS NOT available on 9/11. You must be mistaken. The guy that shot the film (did you see the documentary with De Niro?) was at ground zero until well into the day. When did he manage to hand off the footage to CNN in the mist of such chaos?

No, the footage of the first plane was not made available until days after 9/11...<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

I was in New York at the time. I remember it quite well, thank you. I was mesmerized by that TV while waiting to be able to get out. I turned on the TV just before the 2nd tower was hit, and they were showing footage of the 1st right away.<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

You must have the TIVO that sees into the future...

**Mia** · 27th February 2004, 06:57 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Mia,)
<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (roxdog,)

The tape of the first plane hitting WAS NOT available on 9/11. You must be mistaken. The guy that shot the film (did you see the documentary with De Niro?) was at ground zero until well into the day. When did he manage to hand off the footage to CNN in the mist of such chaos?

No, the footage of the first plane was not made available until days after 9/11...<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

I was in New York at the time. I remember it quite well, thank you. I was mesmerized by that TV while waiting to be able to get out. I turned on the TV just before the 2nd tower was hit, and they were showing footage of the 1st right away.<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

Here's a good example in the fallacy of the conclusions some of you are drawing. You are giving a reason why I must be mistaken given some later events, backtracking using your logic. However, I was there, I remember what I saw at the time that it happened.

So if you're wrong about this, as I personally know that you are, maybe you are wrong about some of the other "conclusions" you've reached using your "logic" in looking at events from the end to the beginning that you suppose.

You're asking to look at a documentary to tell me what I saw that day? Did you ask the filmaker when he handed off his tape? Did you find out if anyone else filmed it and handed to the news crew before drawing your "conclusion"?

**Mia** · 27th February 2004, 06:59 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (roxdog,)
<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Mia,)
<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (roxdog,)

The tape of the first plane hitting WAS NOT available on 9/11. You must be mistaken. The guy that shot the film (did you see the documentary with De Niro?) was at ground zero until well into the day. When did he manage to hand off the footage to CNN in the mist of such chaos?

No, the footage of the first plane was not made available until days after 9/11...<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

I was in New York at the time. I remember it quite well, thank you. I was mesmerized by that TV while waiting to be able to get out. I turned on the TV just before the 2nd tower was hit, and they were showing footage of the 1st right away.<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

You must have the TIVO that sees into the future...<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

Why, because what I saw that day doesn't fit with the "logical" conclusion you drew from watching the documentary after the fact?

**james?** · 27th February 2004, 07:05 PM

If this many people are unsure (or I should say, in actuallity, unsure) of whether or not they saw the first plane hit, couldn't it be possible that Bush, also, is not completely sure of whether or not he saw the first plane hit?

**Mr.Vicchio** · 27th February 2004, 08:18 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (james?,)
If this many people are unsure (or I should say, in actuallity, unsure) of whether or not they saw the first plane hit, couldn't it be possible that Bush, also, is not completely sure of whether or not he saw the first plane hit?<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

That sort of thing wouldn't fit the "bush lied" rage he feels thus no.. can't let that slip.

Rememebr the harder you look for the answer you must have, the more the chances are you will find what YOU want the answer to be, despite all evidence to the contrary.

**Mia** · 27th February 2004, 09:21 PM

Did you ask the filmaker when he handed off his tape? Did you find out if anyone else filmed it and handed to the news crew before drawing your "conclusion"?

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