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dotcoma · Feb 27, 2004, 02:42 pm

Just one question. How much wool can one of you guys produce in a year?

Mr.Vicchio · Feb 27, 2004, 03:28 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (roxdog,)
Just one question. How much wool can one of you guys produce in a year?<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

Instead of countering my comments, you make a typical attack against me.

You say the Media is in on the 9/11 Cabal cause of the power of those around Bush, yet they can't keep the media from doing everything it can to make sure Bush isn't re-elected.

That makes no sense.

Can you answer that or is your next comment going to be "Bleet bleet?"

I think tis going to be bleet bleet because such a simply observed counter to your claims, cannot be rectified to adapt to your reality.

dotcoma · Feb 27, 2004, 03:53 pm

The media isn't "in" on 9/11. The media is completely controlled on both sides of the phony political spectrum. Think about this. If Bush is voted out, Kerry will move in, hand over assets in Iraq to the UN, sign on fully with UNESCO, sign with Kyoto etc... All the liberals will applaud and think they are "in control" and that they defeated "those evil right wingers" all the while spending money we don't have, expanding the government, etc. It's the whole "don't throw us in the briar patch" analogy. Bush is expendable.

Mr.Vicchio · Feb 27, 2004, 06:14 pm

The media is controlled??

I find that to be.. the most absurd statement int eh world.

Woudl you give us an example of a freer press then America's?

Mia · Feb 27, 2004, 06:22 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (RebelWithanAK,)
There wasn't any video of the first plane hitting until several hours into the incident. Bush stayed and talked to the kids in order not to instill panic (but that's kinda dumb since it's not as if they wouldn't find out anyway), and now he's looking to save face with a bunch of lies on a presumably innocuous sequence of events that day. What we should be more concerned about is his subsequent disappearance for a couple days while others (even republican bastard others) were on the scene almost immediately...<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

Neither this or the one above this is true. The first hit was not played live. When I turned on the TV that day, they were playing taped footage of the 1st one when the 2nd one was hit, which was played live.

Mia · Feb 27, 2004, 06:25 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Mia,)
<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (RebelWithanAK,)
There wasn't any video of the first plane hitting until several hours into the incident. Bush stayed and talked to the kids in order not to instill panic (but that's kinda dumb since it's not as if they wouldn't find out anyway), and now he's looking to save face with a bunch of lies on a presumably innocuous sequence of events that day. What we should be more concerned about is his subsequent disappearance for a couple days while others (even republican bastard others) were on the scene almost immediately...<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

Neither this or the one above this is true. The first hit was not played live. When I turned on the TV that day, they were playing taped footage of the 1st one when the 2nd one was hit, which was played live.<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

This is what he may have meant when he said he saw the first plane hit. It was played moments after it happeneing. I wish people would get their facts really straight before making accusations.

dotcoma · Feb 27, 2004, 06:28 pm

[quote=Mia,]

Quote:

Quote by: RebelWithanAK,

When I turned on the TV that day, they were playing taped footage of the 1st one when the 2nd one was hit, which was played live.

The tape of the first plane hitting WAS NOT available on 9/11. You must be mistaken. The guy that shot the film (did you see the documentary with De Niro?) was at ground zero until well into the day. When did he manage to hand off the footage to CNN in the mist of such chaos?

No, the footage of the first plane was not made available until days after 9/11...

dotcoma · Feb 27, 2004, 06:30 pm

BUSH SAID HE WATCHED THE FIRST PLANE HIT THE TOWER LIVE. THIS IS A FACT.

Mia · Feb 27, 2004, 06:32 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Pooeypants,)
Btw, is this the Legolas in DXMP?

Anyho, I don't think this is a lie, its probably that the Chimp in suit was caught off guard with that question, you know, he didn't have a speech ready made etc, and the fact that what he says usually borders on imbecilic...who cares now?
I mean ffs, a few years back he was talking about peace between Indians and Pakistanis...he called them "Pakis" right in front their face, which is a racist term.<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

Yuo are right - that poor man can't put a sentance together without a speechwriter. Did you see him on "Meet the Press?"

Mia · Feb 27, 2004, 06:37 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by ([ÄK)
LËGÖLÄS,]I think this claim is harder for you guys to beleive since most of you aren't ready to accept that Bush and other "powers in the know" of the US gov't might have had foreknowledge of the sept 11 attacks.

All i ask is that you look into it. And keep asking questions.<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

Perfectly valid. Let's be really sure what the Hell we are talking about though and have actual proof, researched and verified, before we go making accusations of this nature and level.

Does the "big lie" posted here rise to the level of, well, anything useful at all?

Mia · Feb 27, 2004, 06:38 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (roxdog,)
BUSH SAID HE WATCHED THE FIRST PLANE HIT THE TOWER LIVE. THIS IS A FACT.<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

OK - you've cracked the case! Bring in the UN peacekeepers and impeach the man!

Mia · Feb 27, 2004, 06:46 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Mr.Vicchio,)
The media is controlled??

I find that to be.. the most absurd statement int eh world.

Woudl you give us an example of a freer press then America's?<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

Yes, please do tell the nation that has a freer press. I will start tuning in to them.

Mia · Feb 27, 2004, 06:49 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (roxdog,)

The tape of the first plane hitting WAS NOT available on 9/11. You must be mistaken. The guy that shot the film (did you see the documentary with De Niro?) was at ground zero until well into the day. When did he manage to hand off the footage to CNN in the mist of such chaos?

No, the footage of the first plane was not made available until days after 9/11...<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

I was in New York at the time. I remember it quite well, thank you. I was mesmerized by that TV while waiting to be able to get out. I turned on the TV just before the 2nd tower was hit, and they were showing footage of the 1st right away.

dotcoma · Feb 27, 2004, 06:54 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Mia,)
<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (roxdog,)
BUSH SAID HE WATCHED THE FIRST PLANE HIT THE TOWER LIVE. THIS IS A FACT.<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

OK - you've cracked the case! Bring in the UN peacekeepers and impeach the man!<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

No, just one piece of an extremely complex puzzle. And fuck the UN: Tyrannical military and propangada arm of wanna-be world government. You lefties need to educate youreselves. If I ever see a blue hat in my town, he'll wish he stuck with the family business.

dotcoma · Feb 27, 2004, 06:55 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Mia,)
<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (roxdog,)

The tape of the first plane hitting WAS NOT available on 9/11. You must be mistaken. The guy that shot the film (did you see the documentary with De Niro?) was at ground zero until well into the day. When did he manage to hand off the footage to CNN in the mist of such chaos?

No, the footage of the first plane was not made available until days after 9/11...<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

I was in New York at the time. I remember it quite well, thank you. I was mesmerized by that TV while waiting to be able to get out. I turned on the TV just before the 2nd tower was hit, and they were showing footage of the 1st right away.<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

You must have the TIVO that sees into the future...

Mia · Feb 27, 2004, 06:57 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Mia,)
<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (roxdog,)

The tape of the first plane hitting WAS NOT available on 9/11. You must be mistaken. The guy that shot the film (did you see the documentary with De Niro?) was at ground zero until well into the day. When did he manage to hand off the footage to CNN in the mist of such chaos?

No, the footage of the first plane was not made available until days after 9/11...<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

I was in New York at the time. I remember it quite well, thank you. I was mesmerized by that TV while waiting to be able to get out. I turned on the TV just before the 2nd tower was hit, and they were showing footage of the 1st right away.<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

Here's a good example in the fallacy of the conclusions some of you are drawing. You are giving a reason why I must be mistaken given some later events, backtracking using your logic. However, I was there, I remember what I saw at the time that it happened.

So if you're wrong about this, as I personally know that you are, maybe you are wrong about some of the other "conclusions" you've reached using your "logic" in looking at events from the end to the beginning that you suppose.

You're asking to look at a documentary to tell me what I saw that day? Did you ask the filmaker when he handed off his tape? Did you find out if anyone else filmed it and handed to the news crew before drawing your "conclusion"?

Mia · Feb 27, 2004, 06:59 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (roxdog,)
<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Mia,)
<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (roxdog,)

The tape of the first plane hitting WAS NOT available on 9/11. You must be mistaken. The guy that shot the film (did you see the documentary with De Niro?) was at ground zero until well into the day. When did he manage to hand off the footage to CNN in the mist of such chaos?

No, the footage of the first plane was not made available until days after 9/11...<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

I was in New York at the time. I remember it quite well, thank you. I was mesmerized by that TV while waiting to be able to get out. I turned on the TV just before the 2nd tower was hit, and they were showing footage of the 1st right away.<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

You must have the TIVO that sees into the future...<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

Why, because what I saw that day doesn't fit with the "logical" conclusion you drew from watching the documentary after the fact?

james? · Feb 27, 2004, 07:05 pm

If this many people are unsure (or I should say, in actuallity, unsure) of whether or not they saw the first plane hit, couldn't it be possible that Bush, also, is not completely sure of whether or not he saw the first plane hit?

Mr.Vicchio · Feb 27, 2004, 08:18 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (james?,)
If this many people are unsure (or I should say, in actuallity, unsure) of whether or not they saw the first plane hit, couldn't it be possible that Bush, also, is not completely sure of whether or not he saw the first plane hit?<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

That sort of thing wouldn't fit the "bush lied" rage he feels thus no.. can't let that slip.

Rememebr the harder you look for the answer you must have, the more the chances are you will find what YOU want the answer to be, despite all evidence to the contrary.

Mia · Feb 27, 2004, 09:21 pm

Did you ask the filmaker when he handed off his tape? Did you find out if anyone else filmed it and handed to the news crew before drawing your "conclusion"?

Feb 27, 2004, 03:28 pm	#42 (permalink) (top)
Mr.Vicchio Navy Veteran Location: Texas Posts: 6,031	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (roxdog,) Just one question. How much wool can one of you guys produce in a year?<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> Instead of countering my comments, you make a typical attack against me. You say the Media is in on the 9/11 Cabal cause of the power of those around Bush, yet they can't keep the media from doing everything it can to make sure Bush isn't re-elected. That makes no sense. Can you answer that or is your next comment going to be "Bleet bleet?" I think tis going to be bleet bleet because such a simply observed counter to your claims, cannot be rectified to adapt to your reality. Einstein's "Theory of Relativity" is still being challenged to this day, but by consensus Global Warming is a fact... that's REAL science at work, why didn't Albert just go that route?

Feb 27, 2004, 06:14 pm	#44 (permalink) (top)
Mr.Vicchio Navy Veteran Location: Texas Posts: 6,031	The media is controlled?? I find that to be.. the most absurd statement int eh world. Woudl you give us an example of a freer press then America's? Einstein's "Theory of Relativity" is still being challenged to this day, but by consensus Global Warming is a fact... that's REAL science at work, why didn't Albert just go that route?

Feb 27, 2004, 06:22 pm	#45 (permalink) (top)
Mia Retired Posts: 7,312	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (RebelWithanAK,) There wasn't any video of the first plane hitting until several hours into the incident. Bush stayed and talked to the kids in order not to instill panic (but that's kinda dumb since it's not as if they wouldn't find out anyway), and now he's looking to save face with a bunch of lies on a presumably innocuous sequence of events that day. What we should be more concerned about is his subsequent disappearance for a couple days while others (even republican bastard others) were on the scene almost immediately...<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> Neither this or the one above this is true. The first hit was not played live. When I turned on the TV that day, they were playing taped footage of the 1st one when the 2nd one was hit, which was played live. "...with like-minded people one cannot discuss. With like-minded people one can only participate in a church service, and you know how I feel about church services." Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Feb 27, 2004, 06:25 pm	#46 (permalink) (top)
Mia Retired Posts: 7,312	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Mia,) </span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (RebelWithanAK,) There wasn't any video of the first plane hitting until several hours into the incident. Bush stayed and talked to the kids in order not to instill panic (but that's kinda dumb since it's not as if they wouldn't find out anyway), and now he's looking to save face with a bunch of lies on a presumably innocuous sequence of events that day. What we should be more concerned about is his subsequent disappearance for a couple days while others (even republican bastard others) were on the scene almost immediately...<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> Neither this or the one above this is true. The first hit was not played live. When I turned on the TV that day, they were playing taped footage of the 1st one when the 2nd one was hit, which was played live.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> This is what he may have meant when he said he saw the first plane hit. It was played moments after it happeneing. I wish people would get their facts really straight before making accusations. "...with like-minded people one cannot discuss. With like-minded people one can only participate in a church service, and you know how I feel about church services." Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Feb 27, 2004, 06:32 pm	#49 (permalink) (top)
Mia Retired Posts: 7,312	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Pooeypants,) Btw, is this the Legolas in DXMP? Anyho, I don't think this is a lie, its probably that the Chimp in suit was caught off guard with that question, you know, he didn't have a speech ready made etc, and the fact that what he says usually borders on imbecilic...who cares now? I mean ffs, a few years back he was talking about peace between Indians and Pakistanis...he called them "Pakis" right in front their face, which is a racist term.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> Yuo are right - that poor man can't put a sentance together without a speechwriter. Did you see him on "Meet the Press?" "...with like-minded people one cannot discuss. With like-minded people one can only participate in a church service, and you know how I feel about church services." Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Feb 27, 2004, 02:42 pm	#41 (permalink) (top)
dotcoma Volcanic Erupter Posts: 3,154	Just one question. How much wool can one of you guys produce in a year?

Feb 27, 2004, 03:53 pm	#43 (permalink) (top)
dotcoma Volcanic Erupter Posts: 3,154	The media isn't "in" on 9/11. The media is completely controlled on both sides of the phony political spectrum. Think about this. If Bush is voted out, Kerry will move in, hand over assets in Iraq to the UN, sign on fully with UNESCO, sign with Kyoto etc... All the liberals will applaud and think they are "in control" and that they defeated "those evil right wingers" all the while spending money we don't have, expanding the government, etc. It's the whole "don't throw us in the briar patch" analogy. Bush is expendable.

Feb 27, 2004, 06:30 pm	#48 (permalink) (top)
dotcoma Volcanic Erupter Posts: 3,154	BUSH SAID HE WATCHED THE FIRST PLANE HIT THE TOWER LIVE. THIS IS A FACT.

Feb 27, 2004, 06:37 pm	#50 (permalink) (top)
Mia Retired Posts: 7,312	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by ([ÄK) LËGÖLÄS,]I think this claim is harder for you guys to beleive since most of you aren't ready to accept that Bush and other "powers in the know" of the US gov't might have had foreknowledge of the sept 11 attacks. All i ask is that you look into it. And keep asking questions.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> Perfectly valid. Let's be really sure what the Hell we are talking about though and have actual proof, researched and verified, before we go making accusations of this nature and level. Does the "big lie" posted here rise to the level of, well, anything useful at all? "...with like-minded people one cannot discuss. With like-minded people one can only participate in a church service, and you know how I feel about church services." Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Feb 27, 2004, 06:38 pm	#51 (permalink) (top)
Mia Retired Posts: 7,312	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (roxdog,) BUSH SAID HE WATCHED THE FIRST PLANE HIT THE TOWER LIVE. THIS IS A FACT.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> OK - you've cracked the case! Bring in the UN peacekeepers and impeach the man! "...with like-minded people one cannot discuss. With like-minded people one can only participate in a church service, and you know how I feel about church services." Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Feb 27, 2004, 06:46 pm	#52 (permalink) (top)
Mia Retired Posts: 7,312	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Mr.Vicchio,) The media is controlled?? I find that to be.. the most absurd statement int eh world. Woudl you give us an example of a freer press then America's?<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> Yes, please do tell the nation that has a freer press. I will start tuning in to them. "...with like-minded people one cannot discuss. With like-minded people one can only participate in a church service, and you know how I feel about church services." Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Feb 27, 2004, 06:49 pm	#53 (permalink) (top)
Mia Retired Posts: 7,312	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (roxdog,) The tape of the first plane hitting WAS NOT available on 9/11. You must be mistaken. The guy that shot the film (did you see the documentary with De Niro?) was at ground zero until well into the day. When did he manage to hand off the footage to CNN in the mist of such chaos? No, the footage of the first plane was not made available until days after 9/11...<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> I was in New York at the time. I remember it quite well, thank you. I was mesmerized by that TV while waiting to be able to get out. I turned on the TV just before the 2nd tower was hit, and they were showing footage of the 1st right away. "...with like-minded people one cannot discuss. With like-minded people one can only participate in a church service, and you know how I feel about church services." Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Feb 27, 2004, 06:54 pm	#54 (permalink) (top)
dotcoma Volcanic Erupter Posts: 3,154	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Mia,) </span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (roxdog,) BUSH SAID HE WATCHED THE FIRST PLANE HIT THE TOWER LIVE. THIS IS A FACT.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> OK - you've cracked the case! Bring in the UN peacekeepers and impeach the man!<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> No, just one piece of an extremely complex puzzle. And fuck the UN: Tyrannical military and propangada arm of wanna-be world government. You lefties need to educate youreselves. If I ever see a blue hat in my town, he'll wish he stuck with the family business.

Feb 27, 2004, 06:55 pm	#55 (permalink) (top)
dotcoma Volcanic Erupter Posts: 3,154	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Mia,) </span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (roxdog,) The tape of the first plane hitting WAS NOT available on 9/11. You must be mistaken. The guy that shot the film (did you see the documentary with De Niro?) was at ground zero until well into the day. When did he manage to hand off the footage to CNN in the mist of such chaos? No, the footage of the first plane was not made available until days after 9/11...<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> I was in New York at the time. I remember it quite well, thank you. I was mesmerized by that TV while waiting to be able to get out. I turned on the TV just before the 2nd tower was hit, and they were showing footage of the 1st right away.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> You must have the TIVO that sees into the future...

Feb 27, 2004, 06:57 pm	#56 (permalink) (top)
Mia Retired Posts: 7,312	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Mia,) </span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (roxdog,) The tape of the first plane hitting WAS NOT available on 9/11. You must be mistaken. The guy that shot the film (did you see the documentary with De Niro?) was at ground zero until well into the day. When did he manage to hand off the footage to CNN in the mist of such chaos? No, the footage of the first plane was not made available until days after 9/11...<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> I was in New York at the time. I remember it quite well, thank you. I was mesmerized by that TV while waiting to be able to get out. I turned on the TV just before the 2nd tower was hit, and they were showing footage of the 1st right away.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> Here's a good example in the fallacy of the conclusions some of you are drawing. You are giving a reason why I must be mistaken given some later events, backtracking using your logic. However, I was there, I remember what I saw at the time that it happened. So if you're wrong about this, as I personally know that you are, maybe you are wrong about some of the other "conclusions" you've reached using your "logic" in looking at events from the end to the beginning that you suppose. You're asking to look at a documentary to tell me what I saw that day? Did you ask the filmaker when he handed off his tape? Did you find out if anyone else filmed it and handed to the news crew before drawing your "conclusion"? "...with like-minded people one cannot discuss. With like-minded people one can only participate in a church service, and you know how I feel about church services." Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Feb 27, 2004, 06:59 pm	#57 (permalink) (top)
Mia Retired Posts: 7,312	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (roxdog,) </span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Mia,) </span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (roxdog,) The tape of the first plane hitting WAS NOT available on 9/11. You must be mistaken. The guy that shot the film (did you see the documentary with De Niro?) was at ground zero until well into the day. When did he manage to hand off the footage to CNN in the mist of such chaos? No, the footage of the first plane was not made available until days after 9/11...<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> I was in New York at the time. I remember it quite well, thank you. I was mesmerized by that TV while waiting to be able to get out. I turned on the TV just before the 2nd tower was hit, and they were showing footage of the 1st right away.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> You must have the TIVO that sees into the future...<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> Why, because what I saw that day doesn't fit with the "logical" conclusion you drew from watching the documentary after the fact? "...with like-minded people one cannot discuss. With like-minded people one can only participate in a church service, and you know how I feel about church services." Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Feb 27, 2004, 07:05 pm	#58 (permalink) (top)
james? Molten Ash Location: Minnesota Posts: 84	If this many people are unsure (or I should say, in actuallity, unsure) of whether or not they saw the first plane hit, couldn't it be possible that Bush, also, is not completely sure of whether or not he saw the first plane hit?

Feb 27, 2004, 08:18 pm	#59 (permalink) (top)
Mr.Vicchio Navy Veteran Location: Texas Posts: 6,031	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (james?,) If this many people are unsure (or I should say, in actuallity, unsure) of whether or not they saw the first plane hit, couldn't it be possible that Bush, also, is not completely sure of whether or not he saw the first plane hit?<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> That sort of thing wouldn't fit the "bush lied" rage he feels thus no.. can't let that slip. Rememebr the harder you look for the answer you must have, the more the chances are you will find what YOU want the answer to be, despite all evidence to the contrary. Einstein's "Theory of Relativity" is still being challenged to this day, but by consensus Global Warming is a fact... that's REAL science at work, why didn't Albert just go that route?

Feb 27, 2004, 09:21 pm	#60 (permalink) (top)
Mia Retired Posts: 7,312	Did you ask the filmaker when he handed off his tape? Did you find out if anyone else filmed it and handed to the news crew before drawing your "conclusion"? "...with like-minded people one cannot discuss. With like-minded people one can only participate in a church service, and you know how I feel about church services." Ayaan Hirsi Ali