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**Pooeypants** · Sep 12, 2003, 02:21 pm

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Originally posted by [ÄK]LËGÖLÄS@Sep 9 2003, 01:10 AM
yeah it is. ..Is this Pooeypants[DSCB]??

It sure is moi from DCSB, what brings you to these forums, infact, how did you find them?

barbnf · Sep 16, 2003, 08:08 am

My Webpage

Ok ... Just thought y'all might find this of interest ...

fedfem · Sep 16, 2003, 08:31 am

Great site, Barb!

barbnf · Sep 16, 2003, 10:31 am

Thank you ...

Just know that is not my Webpage ...

I don't quite understand this board quite yet ...

Posting a link is a challenge ... And, this is the only way I seem to be able to share a link ...

Glad you like it! ...

[ÄK]LËGÖLÄS · Sep 23, 2003, 07:50 pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Pooeypants@09-12-2003 02:21 PM
It sure is moi from DCSB, what brings you to these forums, infact, how did you find them?

I found these forums through the Rage forums i also visit.
Good to see you here.

Section 8 · Sep 24, 2003, 10:42 am

I actually believe that the U.S. had some foreknowledge on the attacks, but I won't go so far as to call it a conspiracy.

Have Fun
Shalom

Steven Nemes · Sep 27, 2003, 05:22 pm

Why does everyone hate Bush so much? He didn't do crap!

GreatWyrm of Babylon · Sep 27, 2003, 05:43 pm

It is called low road debate, simply whine about people you do not like to (in theory) raise respect held for your side. Doesn't work does it? lol

RebelWithanAK · Sep 27, 2003, 08:48 pm

Almost as well as strawman accusations, GreatWyrm!

Section 8 · Sep 28, 2003, 01:05 am

Steve next time if you have an opinion, you should at least clarify your position, so people can debate. What you said was a blanket statement. Take the time to post something descriptive of your opinion on the matter.

Have Fun
Shalom

Eddie · Sep 28, 2003, 02:48 am

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Originally posted by Section 8@09-28-2003 01:05 AM
Steve next time if you have an opinion, you should at least clarify your position, so people can debate. What you said was a blanket statement. Take the time to post something descriptive of your opinion on the matter.

Have Fun
Shalom

"I actually believe that the U.S. had some foreknowledge on the attacks, but I won't go so far as to call it a conspiracy."

Kind of contradicting wont you say?

gem · Feb 27, 2004, 08:35 am

Bush frequently contradicts himself. In his address the evening of 9/11 he said that immediately after the first attack, he activated our emergency plans. But then he tells us in Florida and California that he didn't know the first attack was anything other than an accident. His response to the second attack is certainly not immediate. In fact his action (after continuing the reading program) was to prepare and deliver a speech that he gave that hour. Whether he is lying or confused or whatever, he was willing to talk freely with Jordan, but not the full 9/11 Commission.

gem · Feb 27, 2004, 08:52 am

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Steven Nemes,)
Why does everyone hate Bush so much? He didn't do crap!<hr size="1" /></blockquote>
Bush clearly contradicts himself and says things that are proven to be false. First the White House said that there was no warning at all of the attacks. That was false and Ari F. who said it knew it was false. Bush still refuses to meet with the entire 9/11 Commission. I don't hate Bush. You, Steven, should understand that people who care about the truth will seem to you to have something against Bush, but that may only be because Bush places little importance on truth. I wish it weren't so.

Anniee · Feb 27, 2004, 09:39 am

I don't know if anyone's said this yet, but I know this much. That morning was such a f*cking nightmare that when I try to recount it I get things mixed up order-wise too. I can look back and be sure that I saw the second plane hit live, but I know I really didn't because I didn't turn on the TV until the second plane hit. I DID see the first collapse, and I didn't see the second because I was outside looking for signs of panic in the streets and wondering why the hell there was none. I was also looking in the sky for fighter planes and bombs. But the rest of the morning was all running around losing my mind screaming, begging my husband NOT to go to West Point as he was supposed to do, and for god's sake the PENTAGON had been hit and he couldn't leave, and just WAITING for air raid sirens and bombs to start dropping because we were in the dead center - south of NYC, North of the capitol, east of PA - right in the red area in NJ where they told us would be the FIRST place to be hit when the shit hit the fan and the bombs started dropping. I didn't feel slightly safe until all planes were grounded. So no, I don't remember all the exact sequences PRECISELY either, but the morning is still burned into my mind like a curse.

I can only imagine as the president, being in charge, knowing DC was also under attack, was also mind-bogglingly traumatic. I don't think it was a lie at all but merely the recollection of one of the most horrible days in our nation's history.

Mr.Vicchio · Feb 27, 2004, 11:57 am

Anniee, You just nailed it, but that won't stop people that want to hate from spouting lies.

Bush is NOT a great public speaker to begin with, and 9/11 was aweful, horribly aweful.

I have said "I watched the first plane crash" cause, well when I tuned in, there were conflicting reports of what happened to the first building....

Does that make me a liar hiding a mass concperiacy?

dotcoma · Feb 27, 2004, 01:50 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Jim,)
I did look into it. A lot. Read my post on the thread about the 9/11 conspiracy.

Infowars is very, very poor research and speculation. It's unscientific and counterproductive. <hr size="1" /></blockquote>

That's a bold statement. Why don't you call Alex right now and tell him how counterproductive he is and how "poor" his research is. He's on air right now...

dotcoma · Feb 27, 2004, 01:53 pm

Why would you depend on mainstream media to inform you on info that conflicts with their propaganda? Bush said he saw the first plane hit LIVE as it happened. How could he have done this? I don't care how "crazy" that morning was. Everything Bush says is scripted and when he deviates from the script, he f@cks up like the said circumstance. They are lying to us. LOOK AT HISTORY!

Impenitent · Feb 27, 2004, 01:58 pm

the sky is falling!

the sky is falling!

dotcoma · Feb 27, 2004, 02:04 pm

Your scripted responses are typical and melodramatic. Let me guess, you grew up in the United States...

Mr.Vicchio · Feb 27, 2004, 02:15 pm

Yes the Media loves Bush so much they tear him apart every chance they get. They promote those against him and undermine him at everychance.

But they signed on to the 9/11 attacks.

Logic, its not an art, it just requires some thought.

Sep 27, 2003, 08:48 pm	#29 (permalink) (top)
RebelWithanAK Igneous Magma Location: New York City Posts: 739	Almost as well as strawman accusations, GreatWyrm! . . . whenever any government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new government, laying its foundations on such principles and organizing its powers in such forms as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.

Feb 27, 2004, 08:52 am	#33 (permalink) (top)
gem dual citizen Location: Seattle Posts: 53	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Steven Nemes,) Why does everyone hate Bush so much? He didn't do crap!<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> Bush clearly contradicts himself and says things that are proven to be false. First the White House said that there was no warning at all of the attacks. That was false and Ari F. who said it knew it was false. Bush still refuses to meet with the entire 9/11 Commission. I don't hate Bush. You, Steven, should understand that people who care about the truth will seem to you to have something against Bush, but that may only be because Bush places little importance on truth. I wish it weren't so.

Feb 27, 2004, 09:39 am	#34 (permalink) (top)
Anniee Mr. Queen Posts: 231	I don't know if anyone's said this yet, but I know this much. That morning was such a f*cking nightmare that when I try to recount it I get things mixed up order-wise too. I can look back and be sure that I saw the second plane hit live, but I know I really didn't because I didn't turn on the TV until the second plane hit. I DID see the first collapse, and I didn't see the second because I was outside looking for signs of panic in the streets and wondering why the hell there was none. I was also looking in the sky for fighter planes and bombs. But the rest of the morning was all running around losing my mind screaming, begging my husband NOT to go to West Point as he was supposed to do, and for god's sake the PENTAGON had been hit and he couldn't leave, and just WAITING for air raid sirens and bombs to start dropping because we were in the dead center - south of NYC, North of the capitol, east of PA - right in the red area in NJ where they told us would be the FIRST place to be hit when the shit hit the fan and the bombs started dropping. I didn't feel slightly safe until all planes were grounded. So no, I don't remember all the exact sequences PRECISELY either, but the morning is still burned into my mind like a curse. I can only imagine as the president, being in charge, knowing DC was also under attack, was also mind-bogglingly traumatic. I don't think it was a lie at all but merely the recollection of one of the most horrible days in our nation's history. Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the act of depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest. Mohandas Gandhi

Feb 27, 2004, 11:57 am	#35 (permalink) (top)
Mr.Vicchio Navy Veteran Location: Texas Posts: 6,031	Anniee, You just nailed it, but that won't stop people that want to hate from spouting lies. Bush is NOT a great public speaker to begin with, and 9/11 was aweful, horribly aweful. I have said "I watched the first plane crash" cause, well when I tuned in, there were conflicting reports of what happened to the first building.... Does that make me a liar hiding a mass concperiacy? Einstein's "Theory of Relativity" is still being challenged to this day, but by consensus Global Warming is a fact... that's REAL science at work, why didn't Albert just go that route?

Feb 27, 2004, 01:50 pm	#36 (permalink) (top)
dotcoma Volcanic Erupter Posts: 3,154	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Jim,) I did look into it. A lot. Read my post on the thread about the 9/11 conspiracy. Infowars is very, very poor research and speculation. It's unscientific and counterproductive. <hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> That's a bold statement. Why don't you call Alex right now and tell him how counterproductive he is and how "poor" his research is. He's on air right now...

Sep 16, 2003, 08:08 am	#22 (permalink) (top)
barbnf Molten Ash Posts: 35	My Webpage Ok ... Just thought y'all might find this of interest ...

Sep 16, 2003, 08:31 am	#23 (permalink) (top)
fedfem Igneous Magma Location: Northeastern, USA Posts: 606	Great site, Barb!

Sep 16, 2003, 10:31 am	#24 (permalink) (top)
barbnf Molten Ash Posts: 35	Thank you ... Just know that is not my Webpage ... I don't quite understand this board quite yet ... Posting a link is a challenge ... And, this is the only way I seem to be able to share a link ... Glad you like it! ...

Sep 24, 2003, 10:42 am	#26 (permalink) (top)
Section 8 Hot Lava Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 782	I actually believe that the U.S. had some foreknowledge on the attacks, but I won't go so far as to call it a conspiracy. Have Fun Shalom

Sep 27, 2003, 05:22 pm	#27 (permalink) (top)
Steven Nemes Sedimentary Rock Posts: 8	Why does everyone hate Bush so much? He didn't do crap!

Sep 27, 2003, 05:43 pm	#28 (permalink) (top)
GreatWyrm of Babylon Avatar of Tiamut Location: Dallas, Texas (Irving) Posts: 848	It is called low road debate, simply whine about people you do not like to (in theory) raise respect held for your side. Doesn't work does it? lol

Sep 28, 2003, 01:05 am	#30 (permalink) (top)
Section 8 Hot Lava Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 782	Steve next time if you have an opinion, you should at least clarify your position, so people can debate. What you said was a blanket statement. Take the time to post something descriptive of your opinion on the matter. Have Fun Shalom

Feb 27, 2004, 08:35 am	#32 (permalink) (top)
gem dual citizen Location: Seattle Posts: 53	Bush frequently contradicts himself. In his address the evening of 9/11 he said that immediately after the first attack, he activated our emergency plans. But then he tells us in Florida and California that he didn't know the first attack was anything other than an accident. His response to the second attack is certainly not immediate. In fact his action (after continuing the reading program) was to prepare and deliver a speech that he gave that hour. Whether he is lying or confused or whatever, he was willing to talk freely with Jordan, but not the full 9/11 Commission.

Feb 27, 2004, 01:53 pm	#37 (permalink) (top)
dotcoma Volcanic Erupter Posts: 3,154	Why would you depend on mainstream media to inform you on info that conflicts with their propaganda? Bush said he saw the first plane hit LIVE as it happened. How could he have done this? I don't care how "crazy" that morning was. Everything Bush says is scripted and when he deviates from the script, he f@cks up like the said circumstance. They are lying to us. LOOK AT HISTORY!

Feb 27, 2004, 01:58 pm	#38 (permalink) (top)
Impenitent Hot Lava Posts: 1,859	the sky is falling! the sky is falling! "I really like this jacket, but the sleeves are much too long..." insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results...

Feb 27, 2004, 02:04 pm	#39 (permalink) (top)
dotcoma Volcanic Erupter Posts: 3,154	Your scripted responses are typical and melodramatic. Let me guess, you grew up in the United States...

Feb 27, 2004, 02:15 pm	#40 (permalink) (top)
Mr.Vicchio Navy Veteran Location: Texas Posts: 6,031	Yes the Media loves Bush so much they tear him apart every chance they get. They promote those against him and undermine him at everychance. But they signed on to the 9/11 attacks. Logic, its not an art, it just requires some thought. Einstein's "Theory of Relativity" is still being challenged to this day, but by consensus Global Warming is a fact... that's REAL science at work, why didn't Albert just go that route?