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Old May 25, 2005, 08:59 pm   #1 (permalink) (top)
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What would you do if you were President?

I am considering a political career, and would LOVE to be President. I don't think my administration would be half bad. Here's what I would do:

1. Increase pay and benefits for active and retired U.S. soldiers. I would try my hardest to make them the best paid individuals in America, they deserve it. Every soldier who had served EIGHT years would be supported the rest of their life, ensuring they are never bankrupt or homeless. Also, with the new benefits, the current military would increase substantially.

2. Remove all illegal immigrants and children of illegal immigrants under the age of 18.

3. I would try my hardest to pass and gain support for a new prohibition amendment to the Constitution.

4. Outlaw gay marriage and gay sex and relationships. Before getting it passed, I would make sure there was broad support of it.

5. Send U.S. troops wherever there is a threat to American national security. Maybe not the regular military, first Special Forces.

6. Make sure that God's name was not removed from the pledge, schools, courthouses or any public places.

7. Make schools teach abstinence instead of passing out condoms like they do now.

8. Put an end to all affirmative action and entitlement programs; they're not fair.

There are other things I would try to do, but we'll see if I ever have to. To do all these things, I would have to remove some funding from current programs, because "Read my lips: no new taxes."

Leading the country, we would "make America great once more."


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Old May 26, 2005, 03:22 am   #2 (permalink) (top)
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I don't think my administration would be half bad.
Don't we all think that.


Judging by your title ("Future Marine"), your location ("The South"), and the stupid things you've just said, I think you're a liberal parodying the conservatives


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Old May 26, 2005, 03:37 am   #3 (permalink) (top)
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If you are serious, I'll just have to run against you. Here's my platform:

1. Pay military personnel on a supply-and-demand basis. If I need more troops, pay goes up.

2. Discourage employers from hiring illegal immigrants and make the process of immigration reasonable, if it isn't already. I don't really know the status quo here.

3. Either do as you say and pass a prohibition amendment or get rid of laws restricting other drugs. As long as we're consistent.

4. Allow opposite- or same-sex couples to receive civil unions and remove marriage as a governmental institution.

5. Send U.S. troops wherever there is a real threat to American national security. Maybe not the regular military, first Special Forces.

6. Make sure that God does not make inappropriate appearances in government-sponsored places and that God is not banned from them.

7. Let the schools continue to teach the value of abstinence and the methods of safe sex, as they do now.

8. Put an end to all affirmative action and entitlement programs; they're not fair.

Who's voting for me?


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Old May 26, 2005, 04:02 am   #4 (permalink) (top)
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Hey James, you got my vote.
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Old May 26, 2005, 06:07 am   #5 (permalink) (top)
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I am considering a political career, and would LOVE to be President. I don't think my administration would be half bad. Here's what I would do:

1. Increase pay and benefits for active and retired U.S. soldiers. I would try my hardest to make them the best paid individuals in America, they deserve it. Every soldier who had served EIGHT years would be supported the rest of their life, ensuring they are never bankrupt or homeless. Also, with the new benefits, the current military would increase substantially.

2. Remove all illegal immigrants and children of illegal immigrants under the age of 18.

3. I would try my hardest to pass and gain support for a new prohibition amendment to the Constitution.

4. Outlaw gay marriage and gay sex and relationships. Before getting it passed, I would make sure there was broad support of it.

5. Send U.S. troops wherever there is a threat to American national security. Maybe not the regular military, first Special Forces.

6. Make sure that God's name was not removed from the pledge, schools, courthouses or any public places.

7. Make schools teach abstinence instead of passing out condoms like they do now.

8. Put an end to all affirmative action and entitlement programs; they're not fair.

There are other things I would try to do, but we'll see if I ever have to. To do all these things, I would have to remove some funding from current programs, because "Read my lips: no new taxes."

Leading the country, we would "make America great once more."
Other than raising the pay of soldiers, although the best paid in society seems unneccesary, I don't fancy paying them a doctors salary, I think all of your other suggestions are horrific. They are all authoritarian, anti-liberal or militaristic. You sound like you would be right at home in Franco's Spain.


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Old May 26, 2005, 10:26 am   #6 (permalink) (top)
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Is that you George?
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Old May 26, 2005, 10:55 am   #7 (permalink) (top)
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I think you're a liberal parodying the conservatives.
Yeah, ain't that the scary part. :)


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Old May 26, 2005, 11:19 am   #8 (permalink) (top)
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1. Eliminate any illegal and unconstitutional laws whatsoever.

2. Protect the rights of people to keep and bear arms.
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Old May 26, 2005, 11:24 am   #9 (permalink) (top)
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I am considering a political career, and would LOVE to be President. I don't think my administration would be half bad. Here's what I would do:

3. I would try my hardest to pass and gain support for a new prohibition amendment to the Constitution.

4. Outlaw gay marriage and gay sex and relationships. Before getting it passed, I would make sure there was broad support of it.

6. Make sure that God's name was not removed from the pledge, schools, courthouses or any public places.

7. Make schools teach abstinence instead of passing out condoms like they do now.
Would you make women wear Burkas too? Maybe we ought to make sunday church attendance mandatory too.

How dumb do you have to be to re-institute a failed policy (prohibition)?

The religious phanatic is in power right now, but your days are numbered. The country *will* move forward despite your best efforts, and you will be seen as an archaic footnote on history. I garentee those like you will be viewed just like the opponants to the civil rights movement and sufferage within 50 years.

You will never go anywhere politically because you are stuck in the past. America dosen't want to be babysat and told to live like the bible says. Your social engineering will surely fail, and you will continue to be a radical with a pathetic self-righteous contruct to justify your forays into the rights of our nation.


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Old May 26, 2005, 11:26 am   #10 (permalink) (top)
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Don't we all think that.


Judging by your title ("Future Marine"), your location ("The South"), and the stupid things you've just said, I think you're a liberal parodying the conservatives
Huh?! No, I am a super-conservative. I'm gonna be a Junior in high school (FYI) and last semester we took a test of 54 questions to judge how liberal or conservative we were. My results were 46 out of 54 conservative answers. My teacher said technically I'm 2 points from being a Nazi.

Oh, and I also forgot to mention that I also would protect the second amendment. Strongly.


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Old May 26, 2005, 11:28 am   #11 (permalink) (top)
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So basically what you are saying is that you have taken a test proving that you are totally out of touch with America's values and political leanings. And you think you can be the presedent. Bush is a wartime anomolie, nothing more - and you are worse than him.


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Old May 26, 2005, 11:36 am   #12 (permalink) (top)
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So basically what you are saying is that you have taken a test proving that you are totally out of touch with America's values and political leanings. And you think you can be the presedent. Bush is a wartime anomolie, nothing more - and you are worse than him.
All of my policies would be based on Christian values directly from the Bible, and the Bible is not wrong.


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Old May 26, 2005, 11:39 am   #13 (permalink) (top)
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As a christian I beleive the bible as well (though not always literally). Even though I beleive it to contain accurate moral direction, it beleive it it evil to attempt to force someone to live a moral law that they do not want to (past the laws of murder and theft and the like). Even if you believe it is wrong to do something, that does not give you the right to force others.


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Old May 26, 2005, 11:40 am   #14 (permalink) (top)
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James>What does the second amendment mean though? There's a thread about its meaning somewhere. Go search for it.
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Old May 26, 2005, 11:44 am   #15 (permalink) (top)
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tiny, it's about militias (which the crazies think means them) bearing arms to repel military threats (which the crazies think means anybody they choose it to mean).


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Old May 26, 2005, 11:45 am   #16 (permalink) (top)
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1. Eliminate any illegal and unconstitutional laws whatsoever.
Cool, Caspian, glad to hear it. Let's start with these...

1st Amendment -- "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,..." (It doesn't say "a religion" or "a state religion", it says "religion") "or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;" -- meaning that Congress can pass no laws either way regarding religion, neither for nor against. And since the Federal Constistution trumps state and local constitutions, no state or local government can pass laws prohibited to Congress by the Federal Constitution.

In 1954 Congress passed a law establishing religion, however generic, in the Pledge of Allegience. I can't think of a more blatant, clear cut violation of the 1st Amendment, can you, Caspian? The same goes for "In God We Trust" enscribed on our currency, which was created by an Act of Congress on March 3, 1865. Another Act of Congress in May 18, 1903 made it mandatory on all coins, except the penny. In 1956 President Eisenhower signed a Joint Resolution of Congress declaring "In God We Trust" as the national motto. (I, of course, refuse to accept this, since the resolution was unconstitutional and our national motto already exists on the Great Seal of the United States... "E Pluribus Unum".)

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I am considering a political career, and would LOVE to be President. I don't think my administration would be half bad.
By all means, James, give it a go. Should be very entertaining.

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Would you make women wear Burkas too? Maybe we ought to make sunday church attendance mandatory too.
LOL!!
and chastity belts... with holsters.

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Old May 26, 2005, 11:49 am   #17 (permalink) (top)
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tiny, it's about militias (which the crazies think means them) bearing arms to repel military threats (which the crazies think means anybody they choose it to mean).
Nono> Yup, it's about bearing arms to form a well-regulated militia either to repel an invasion or to fight a tyrannical government. Tsk, tsk, pretty outdated notion, don't you think? Be that as it may, it doesn't give you the right to stock up an arsenal in order to kill burglars or to hunt down bambi's mom.
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Old May 26, 2005, 11:49 am   #18 (permalink) (top)
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All of my policies would be based on Christian values directly from the Bible, and the Bible is not wrong.
Interesting. Insert Q'uran for Bible and you have Sharia.

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Old May 26, 2005, 11:52 am   #19 (permalink) (top)
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the Bible is not wrong
Important question - all the Bible, or just bits of the Bible?


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Old May 26, 2005, 11:54 am   #20 (permalink) (top)
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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

If you reintroduced Prohibition, would that not affect the free exercise of the Catholic religion by making the taking of sacremental wine illegal? Lutherans as well, and many other non-fundementalist faiths? The Bible can and does act as a moral guide to many and not conflict with a free society or the Constitution, but it can not be the absolute guiding principle, because then you have to decide who's interpretation is correct and then you are effecting the "free exercise" of someone's religion. You are absolutely free to live your life by the dicta of your religion of choice. You do not have to like gays, you can kick divorced people and fornicators out of your church, you can not dance, you can handle snakes if that is your bent.You can pray in school, silently, all day long. But you can not pass laws based on your view of the Bible. That does not mean that I believe to Bible is wrong. It means that I understand the difference between church and state. As Jesus said, "Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's and unto God what is God's." The institutions are and should be seperated.
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