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**Matt W** · May 31, 2005, 09:06 am

Because the world has only so much sympathy to go round, tb. The leaders of the G8 are being forced to look at Africa, where tens of thousands die every day because of a very simple reason - poverty. South-East Asia is focussed on the victims of the tsunami, many of whom even now aren't rehoused. India & Pakistan are patching up their differences over Kashmir, and that's far more important to them than settling domestic issues. And the US will turn a blind eye because of General Musharraf's help in the 'war on terror' - it's called hypocricy, tb - become familiar with it - it's practised by politicians everywhere. The EU are trying to figure out what to do with...well, the EU. And America is merrily digging itself into a hole in Iraq.

And forcibly changing cultures that have been the same for thousands of years doesn't sit well with all of us. And right now, America is hardly in a position to get into a slanging match with the rest of the world about 'rights'. That's why there's no outcry. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

tinybear · May 31, 2005, 09:10 am

Well if governments don't do it, then the non-governmental organisations and human rights group can. Look at what happened when an Australian woman was convicted of drug trafficking in Indonesia. There was a huge outcry even though the Australian government appealed to Australians to respect the decision of the Indonesian court.

**Matt W** · May 31, 2005, 09:15 am

Yeah, but the NGOs are often focussed on exactly the problems I listed. And as for that Aussie woman, that was purely in Australia. Certainly, the international media took note, but I'd hardly say there was a 'huge outcry'.

fedfem · May 31, 2005, 09:27 am

Kuwait is a unique country. The country is owned/run by oil companies--mostly US interests. The populace are tribal muslims who were not even able to enjoy the metro areas or the profit centers. Kuwait city is like a western city.

rmnunez · Jun 1, 2005, 12:28 am

Kuwaiti women will not get the right to vote until sometime after 2009. Their legislature tied 29 to 29 with 2 abstentions in the vote to reform the law allowing women to vote. There isn't enough time between now and the next elections for the law to get reformed and women to register to vote. I wouldn't be too concerned about this though as Kuwaiti women enjoy greater levels of freedom and political participation than their sisters in nearby countries. Kuwaiti women can drive, they can own property separatelty from their husbands and transmit their wealth independently by will or contract, 70% of Kuwait's post secondary students are female, so they have it better than most Muslim women.

May 31, 2005, 09:06 am	#21 (permalink) (top)
Matt W Moderator Location: Reading, UK. Posts: 6,797	Because the world has only so much sympathy to go round, tb. The leaders of the G8 are being forced to look at Africa, where tens of thousands die every day because of a very simple reason - poverty. South-East Asia is focussed on the victims of the tsunami, many of whom even now aren't rehoused. India & Pakistan are patching up their differences over Kashmir, and that's far more important to them than settling domestic issues. And the US will turn a blind eye because of General Musharraf's help in the 'war on terror' - it's called hypocricy, tb - become familiar with it - it's practised by politicians everywhere. The EU are trying to figure out what to do with...well, the EU. And America is merrily digging itself into a hole in Iraq. And forcibly changing cultures that have been the same for thousands of years doesn't sit well with all of us. And right now, America is hardly in a position to get into a slanging match with the rest of the world about 'rights'. That's why there's no outcry. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered. -George Best, on being asked what he did with his footballing fortunes.

May 31, 2005, 09:15 am	#23 (permalink) (top)
Matt W Moderator Location: Reading, UK. Posts: 6,797	Yeah, but the NGOs are often focussed on exactly the problems I listed. And as for that Aussie woman, that was purely in Australia. Certainly, the international media took note, but I'd hardly say there was a 'huge outcry'. I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered. -George Best, on being asked what he did with his footballing fortunes.

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tinybear Volcanic Erupter Location: Hong Kong (for now) Posts: 7,108	Well if governments don't do it, then the non-governmental organisations and human rights group can. Look at what happened when an Australian woman was convicted of drug trafficking in Indonesia. There was a huge outcry even though the Australian government appealed to Australians to respect the decision of the Indonesian court.

May 31, 2005, 09:27 am	#24 (permalink) (top)
fedfem Igneous Magma Location: Northeastern, USA Posts: 606	Kuwait is a unique country. The country is owned/run by oil companies--mostly US interests. The populace are tribal muslims who were not even able to enjoy the metro areas or the profit centers. Kuwait city is like a western city.

Jun 1, 2005, 12:28 am	#25 (permalink) (top)
rmnunez Volcanic Erupter Location: Mexico City Posts: 4,772	Kuwaiti women will not get the right to vote until sometime after 2009. Their legislature tied 29 to 29 with 2 abstentions in the vote to reform the law allowing women to vote. There isn't enough time between now and the next elections for the law to get reformed and women to register to vote. I wouldn't be too concerned about this though as Kuwaiti women enjoy greater levels of freedom and political participation than their sisters in nearby countries. Kuwaiti women can drive, they can own property separatelty from their husbands and transmit their wealth independently by will or contract, 70% of Kuwait's post secondary students are female, so they have it better than most Muslim women.