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| Molten Ash Location: Joplin MO USA Posts: 36 | It started with a bang...and some metallic clanging...and heavy metal music as well. It started a new breed of professional football that hearkened back to the football of the past, when quarterbacks TOOK HITS WITHOUT COMPLAINING, when linemen WEREN'T penalised for using more than the force of a feather to hit an opposing player, when football DIDN'T parochialise their rules so as to make them paternalistic and draconian. It was the Xtreme Football League. It scored a 10,5 for NBC in its first weekend and also set a ratings record for TNN. But then the press started writing nasty and unflatteringly negative stories about the XFL, turning them into hit pieces and character attacks. Sports Illustrated led the charge with an atrocious piece that attacked league just because WWF (now WWE) president Vince McMahon was the league's commissioner. Sport talk radio also compared the XFL to the WWF. The rest of the media fell into queue...and they were all wrong. The XFL's players were actually well-behaved though they celebrated with impugnity. The well-regulated game's referees would use common sense when making a call yet generally just let the game go on. NOTHING like the WWF. The press' constant barrage of negative reporting week after week, gleefully boasting about their talking down the ratings, brainwashed the masses into not watching. The liberal press were scared as Hell that their beloved, draconian, paternalistic No Fun League (as XFL on NBC colour commentator Jesse Ventura rightly dubbed it) would lose popularity. The way the Nazi Football League is run with arcane and draconian rules, maybe the Oddball Bolsheviks DESERVE to lose some of their market share! Besides, the National Socialist Football League doesn't think Los Angeles is a good pro football market. Show me a liberal journalist who buys that lie and I'll show you the XFL Champions Los Angeles Xtreme, with Tommy Maddox, Rashan Shehee, Jeremaine Copeland, and Saladin McCullough to name just a few. Let's follow the chain of Sports Illustrated...which shares a sport channel with CNN...owned by AOL Time Warner...chaired by Ted Turner...billion-dollar benefactor of the United Nations...which is extremely leftist in nature. The liberals have EVERYTHING to do with the destruction of the XFL audience with the Big Lie. They gleefully said, "Just call it the Ex-FL". Hah. HEXED-FL is more like it. The liberal press used the same approach with the XFL that they use with the following: The NRA, George W Bush, Bernhard Goetz, OJ Simpson, Clarence Thomas, Ronald Reagan, Taiwan Republic of China, Israel, Kuwait, conservative Christians, and off road vehicles. If this same bias against the media-killed XFL had existed against our military back in the 1940s you would be speaking German, or you would be a bar of soap. Think about it. |
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| Sedimentary Rock Posts: 8 | I agree that the media played a large role in destroying the XFL. I won't absolve Vince McMahon of blame though. His maniacal, juvenile approach to business was the main cause of the XFL's demise. The media didn't write those preposterous half-time skits that looked like part of a low-rent Nickelodeon sketch comedy show. Nonsense like that gave the media more than enough ammunition than they needed. Vince was the one who steered attention away from the football (which, you're correct, was conducted in a more reasonable fashion than the NFL). Vince wasn't willing to play the game (in terms of media relations) for one second, let alone the couple of seasons he probably needed. I'm not saying it's a good system; but to not recognize the system and conduct business in a manner which costs your share holders (WWF and GE) over $100 million is simply the actions of a very stupid individual. As for your liberal media jibber-jabber it was all very amusing. I wish they were 1/1000 as effective in dismantling the NRA as they were with the XFL. |
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| Molten Ash Posts: 67 | I hope they don't get to the NRA. The last thing we need is more victim disarmament laws. "You have to question when a person says, 'I have a great idea, let's make everyone __________.' If it's such a great idea, why do you have to make people do it?" www.freestateproject.org |
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| Molten Ash Location: Joplin MO USA Posts: 36 | </span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (FreedomFirst,) I hope they don't get to the NRA. The last thing we need is more victim disarmament laws.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> You and me and the rest of the vast majority of Americans, buddy. |
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| Molten Ash Location: Joplin MO USA Posts: 36 | </span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (white rice,) The XFL sucked. Sex and violence sells. People stopped watching because it brought nothing new to the table.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> Wrong. McMahon brought some innovations to pro football, like no fair catch (5 yd halo applies), no kicking for a PAT, free ball after a 25yd kick... Those alone attracted a number of viewers; the media talked down the audience as they do just about anything they disagree with... |
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| Molten Ash Location: Joplin MO USA Posts: 36 | (NJLigerNJ)"As for your liberal media jibber-jabber it was all very amusing. I wish they were 1/1000 as effective in dismantling the NRA as they were with the XFL." You will go INSANE waiting for THAT to happen! And BTW it wasn't "jibberjabber", it's the naked truth and if you bothered to tune out CNN and NPR and PBS and seek out other sources for news you would begin to understand. |
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| Igneous Magma Posts: 687 | The XFL took all the worst things from wrestling (which is all of it actually) and a bunch of the annoying stuff from the NFL, added a couple good rules (no fair catch, no kneel downs) and tried to sell it to everybody. Trouble is, it had too much nonsense for football fans, and too much real football for wrestling fans. It was crap from front to back. I watched one game for over an hour and saw about 5 actual plays, the rest was just bragging and shouting.I never watched again. Big Jr is watching you! |
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| Citizen #21521 Posts: 2,599 | Pfft, American sports are softer every year. The Australian football league doesn't even use those helmets, knee pads, shoulder pads, dick pads, or whatever pads they use in the US football games. Its just as violent too (although the liberals whine about it). I guess liberals can't stand "violence", and want to ban it as soon as possible. Are they much different from the zealous Christians who want to ban everything under the sun? I guess not. Ideological loyalty is the act of giving your soul to a vague concept, to be manipulated by people smarter than you. |
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| Molten Ash Location: Joplin MO USA Posts: 36 | </span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Suburbanite,) Is Sports Illustrated is an important liberal magazine then the Democrats are in trouble. Oh wait, only people who watch Fox News believe in such a stupid thing as a liberal media.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> Sorry, Sub, but most of the media in this country has a liberal bias, and it's not just those who watch Fox News or listen to talk radio. It is the vast majority of Americans who have noticed that the media is embracing an ever-smaller fringe minority and ramming their views down our gullets. The reason Ted Turner led the charge against the XFL is he had such a vengeance against Vince McMahon and anyone who dared challenge the bloated pro football establishment was nothing more than rat faeces. The reason the XFL was killed was by the liberally-biased media talking down the league like they have been talking down the vote since 1992 when they hijacked the electoral process from the American people and selected Clinton twice and tried to get away with selecting Gore in 2000 and are now at it again by selecting Kerry this year. The media talked down the Xtreme Football League like they talk down the conservative agenda, talk down talk radio, talk down gunowners' rights, and anything else that doesn't jibe with their beliefs. You need to stop watching CNN and PBS and stop listening to National Socialist Pubic Radio and get your news from REAL news sources. I find I am better able to trust the BBC, ABC News Online, and even AlJazeera, than I am able to trust the Communist News Nutwork, Most Soitenly Nuthin' But Crap, Chump Broadcast Service News, Asinine Broadcast Companies News, and Consistently Nuthin' But Crap COMBINED. And the moral of the story is, Don't let CNN and NPR and PBS and Ted Turner brainwash you: You need to learn to think for yourself. The more you watch CNN the lower your IQ. |
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| Sedimentary Rock Posts: 8 | </span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (castille,) Pfft, American sports are softer every year. The Australian football league doesn't even use those helmets, knee pads, shoulder pads, dick pads, or whatever pads they use in the US football games. Its just as violent too (although the liberals whine about it). <hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> All the rugby playing nations love to bash the NFL with the pads thing. You'd think if the NFL were so easy these rugby/aussie rules guys would swing on over to the USA and cash some huge paychecks steamrolling all the weak American players. The average NFL career is something like three years -- that's *with* pads. You can run some ignorant "well I guess they aren't as tough" juvenile trash talking or you can open up to the idea that those pads and helmets work two ways and there are many exposed areas which take crushing hits from helmets thrown at far more speed and with far more force than in Aussie Rules. I've seen Aussie Rules. I like Aussie Rules. They do not hit as hard on a play by play basis. BTW, how did you guys do in the rugby World Cup deal? Not Aussie Rules I know. Did you know many of the English players credited their success on their coaching staff and players visiting a number of NFL teams and learning their practice routines and coaching techniques? The NFL worked well enough to beat you guys I guess. |
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| Igneous Magma Posts: 374 | Yes let's blame the non exsitant liberal media on everything. Look the XFL sucked majorly. Whatever you got with more hits you lost due to the fact that the players were horrible. I'll stick with the NFL where the level of playing is much higher. When machines and computers, profit motives and property rights are considered more important than people, the giant triplets of racism, militarism and economic exploitation are incapable of being conquered Martin Luther King Jr. |
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| Sedimentary Rock Posts: 8 | </span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Atomica,) You need to stop watching CNN and PBS and stop listening to National Socialist Pubic Radio and get your news from REAL news sources. I find I am better able to trust the BBC <hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> Are you going to resort to telling anyone who ever disagrees with you to stop watching CNN? I'm not sure there is a direct correlation with CNN viewership and disagreeing with your viewpoints. Sanity may well hold a direct connection ... not CNN. I am glad you can trust the BBC -- if recent history has taught us anything it's that their news reports can be trusted unequivocally. |
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| BANNED Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,203 | The Media is neither left nor right if it supports the Republicans or the Democrats, it is indoctrinating, misleading, and promotes a two party rule. Nothing else. It does not represent people on the left or on the right with anything more than what is required. It is just white noise. On and on and on. Nothing NEW about NEWS, just stagnation. It fits. American culture and society has died. I don't think it is worth the energy anymore. |
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| Molten Ash Posts: 67 | Agreed. The media's biggest problem is that they're pro-ESTABLISHMENT, not pro-liberal or pro-conservative. They do the picking in presidential nominations, and they are part of the problem that keeps third parties down. If you gave a third party candidate equal time with the two major party candidates he'd get a third of the vote easy. "You have to question when a person says, 'I have a great idea, let's make everyone __________.' If it's such a great idea, why do you have to make people do it?" www.freestateproject.org |
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| Sedimentary Rock Posts: 7 | Also a football game is something that I would want to take the whole family to. I watched many of the games that were broadcast on NBC, often when the camera would pan over the sparse crowds that were attending, it looked like a gang member convention. I often wondered if they checked their guns at the gate? Oh, well what the heck. |
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| Guest Posts: n/a | Atomica, Fox News viewers were the worst informed on the Iraq war. They had the highest percentage of people that believed we had already found WMD, that bin Laden and Hussein were in cahoots, and other bits of hooey. I don't see how you could have talked down the XFL. Did they have Jerry 'the King' Lawler and 'Good ole' J.R. doing commentary? A friend of mine told me that they would exaggerate a hit like they were calling a wrestling match. People tuned in for the first one because of the hype and tuned out because of the lack of substance. |
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| Hot Lava Location: Texas Posts: 1,229 | I didn't read anything, I just saw the phrase "Liberal Media" and laughed. Then I read the rest of the sentence. A Liberal Media would not ruin the XFL, but a Conservative Media would. The media is more conservative than anything else, people. It's the whole "concerned citizen" attitude that I feel from most newscasters and the way they relate stuff. Oh, it's really too bad, isn't it? -- http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050121/480/watw10701210224 Hahaha, that's funny. Liberals are so silly! |
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