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    Occupier charged with terroristic felony for protesting in front of bank

    "A protester belonging to an Occupy Wall Street group in rural Pennsylvania is being charged with felony attempted bank robbery and a terrorism-related charge for holding signs up during a demonstration at a local Wells Fargo branch. David C. Gorczynski, 22, was charged on Tuesday with attempted bank robbery and terroristic threatening, both felonies, as well as one misdemeanor charge of disorderly conduct.
    ...Police detained him after he walked into an Easton, PA Wells Fargo branch with a sign that read 'You’re being robbed' and another that said 'Give a man a gun, he can rob a bank. Give a man a bank, and he can rob a country.'”
    Occupier charged with terroristic felony for protesting in front of bank — RT

    I can see both sides of this one, I must admit. It's generally a poor idea to walk into a bank and say "You're being robbed." Of course, this was most certainly a different context.

    Anyway, what do you think of these trumped up "terrorism" charges? Even if this was a bank robber -- which doesn't seem accurate, but just for the sake of argument -- are all bank robbers now terrorists?

    Also, feel free to debate the content of the other sign. That's a rather old argument, but definitely has truth to it. To me it's similar to the slogan, "War is terrorism with a bigger budget."

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    The guy walked into a bank and scared the living fuck out of people. He deserves what's coming to him. If he'd stayed outside, I would be defending him.

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    He deserves felony bank robbery and a terrorism-related charge for walking into a bank holding signs?

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    The bank robbery charge was dropped. Stop reading Russia Today and thinking it's anything but a propaganda machine for the New Soviets. Yes, he does deserve a terrorism related charge for walking into a bank wearing a hood and holding a sign saying "You're being robbed". That is the definition of terrorism - inciting terror for political purposes. This is exactly like walking into a theatre and yelling fire.

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    The bank robbery charge was dropped. Stop reading Russia Today and thinking it's anything but a propaganda machine for the New Soviets. Yes, he does deserve a terrorism related charge for walking into a bank wearing a hood and holding a sign saying "You're being robbed". That is the definition of terrorism - inciting terror for political purposes. This is exactly like walking into a theatre and yelling fire.

    I think the presence of the other sign would quite mitigate my terror at the "robbed" sign, had I been in the bank. And we wouldn't charge someone with terrorism for walking into a theater and yelling fire.

    Well, I suppose we might, but I don't think a terrorism charge is warranted since no violence was involved.

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    The US charging people with terrorism? Hypocrisy at its best.


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    The whole thing will be dropped because it's obvious he wasn't there to do anything other than protest.

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    He shouldn't be charged with terrorism. But he is not an innocent protestor, and deserves to be prosecuted.

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    Quote Quote by: Ender View Post
    He shouldn't be charged with terrorism. But he is not an innocent protestor, and deserves to be prosecuted.
    Prosecuted for what? He had no intent to rob the bank, that seems to be pretty clear.

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    Disorderly conduct. I agree it wasn't a bank robbery either.

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    Disorderly conduct. I agree it wasn't a bank robbery either.

    Disorderly conduct I can see. Bank robbery and terrorism? Please. That's letting fear get the best of us...

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    Quote Quote by: Ender View Post
    Disorderly conduct. I agree it wasn't a bank robbery either.
    carrying a sign into a bank is 'disorderly conduct'? I was always under the impression that freedom of expression was an important element of US political culture. I guess not.

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