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    Right Wing Media - Rush Limbaugh Officially Insane

    Quite honestly, I have nothing but contempt for right-wind media sources, who almost universally distort facts (if not flat-out lie) in order to scare, cajole, or mislead their listeners/viewers into supporting conservative positions.

    Take, for example, the phantom strong gun control policies President Obama is supposedly advancing:

    President Obama keeps pushing for gun control.
    President Obama's Anti-Gun Agenda Shows No Sign of Stopping | Fox News

    Obama hasn't proposed any anti-gun legislation in his first term, and has rarely mentioned the topic. This makes us wonder how long the NRA and the politicians who do its bidding can continue to pretend there's a wolf at the door before people look outside and discover that wolves are an endangered species. The answer, based on last week's annual NRA convention, is apparently forever.
    Crying wolf over Obama and gun control - Los Angeles Times

    Or, take for example, the supposed two-billion-dollar trip that Obama took to Mumbai in 2010.

    Glenn Beck: Obama's Unnecessary Trip to India | Fox News

    Except that that's not at all true....
    Debunking the myth: The cost of Obama's trip to Asia - CNN
    FactCheck.org : Trip to Mumbai

    All that just to say that Rush Limbaugh has now, officially, gone over the edge and is possibly the dumbest windbag in a field full of idiotic windbags.

    “Do you know the name of the villain in this movie? Bane,” Limbaugh told his radio audience. “The villain in the Dark Knight Rises is named Bane. B-A-N-E. What is the name of the venture capital firm that Romney ran, and around which there's now this make-believe controversy? Bain.
    Rush Limbaugh takes on Batman: Says

    In other words, Limbaugh is saying that director Christopher Nolan and the writers of "The Dark Knight Rises," are engaged in a conspiracy to... somehow... attack Mitt Romney. Never mind that the movie was written years ago, and filmed a year ago - well before Mitt Romney was the presumptive Republican nominee. Nevermind that the character was introduced in 1993, around the time Romney was first even considering entering politics. Nevermind that the character was also in that terrible, terrible Batman movie with George Clooney.

    Clearly, it's all a giant left-wing conspiracy to attack Mitt Romney by making people unconsciously associate Bain Capital, the company he founded and chaired, with Bane, an insane criminal in a freaking movie.

    Apparently, if you're a right-wing media personality, you don't have to use the truth, or have facts, or sources... you just need to assume that people are as dumb as you are, and say whatever you want.

    Pro scientia et humanitate.

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    The character's origin was in Batman: Vengeance of Bane #1 (January 1993)
    Bane (comics) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (emphasis added)

    bane   
    noun
    1.a person or thing that ruins or spoils: Gambling was the bane of his existence.
    2.a deadly poison (often used in combination, as in the names of poisonous plants): wolfsbane; henbane.
    3.death; destruction; ruin.
    4.Obsolete . that which causes death or destroys life: entrapped and drowned beneath the watery bane.
    Bane | Define Bane at Dictionary.com

    Rush has indeed gone a bit too far out on the limb with this nonsensical claim.



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    Quote Quote by: Jack View Post
    bane   
    noun
    1.a person or thing that ruins or spoils: Gambling was the bane of his existence.
    2.a deadly poison (often used in combination, as in the names of poisonous plants): wolfsbane; henbane.
    3.death; destruction; ruin.
    4.Obsolete . that which causes death or destroys life: entrapped and drowned beneath the watery bane.
    Bane | Define Bane at Dictionary.com
    Yeah, really gotta credit Romney for his good naming ideas. Bain capital? Really? Lol.

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    Well, Bain Capital is named for one of the founders (William Bain) who worked with and recruited Mitt Romney from Boston Consulting Group.

    Still, to argue that the villain in The Dark Knight Rises is, in any way, associated with Mitt Romney is idiocy at its finest.

    Pro scientia et humanitate.

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    In my view, it's likely that few of the profiteers in the Right Wing Media are insane. I do think they are simply unethical people, charlatans and hucksters who have found that there is a base of tens of millions conservative and religious rubes and suckers whom they can fleece for large sums of money and political control of legislatures in order to serve themselves and the American monied elite who also pay them.

    P.T. Barnum was right. There is a sucker born every minute and most them are religious conservatives who willingly buy the religious and political snake oil being served up to them. And it doesn't matter that the snake oil is poisoning them, their families, and their country.

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    Well, Bain Capital is named for one of the founders (William Bain) who worked with and recruited Mitt Romney from Boston Consulting Group.
    Romney was restless for a company of his own to run, and in 1983, Bill Bain offered him the chance to head a new venture that would buy into companies, have them benefit from Bain techniques, and then reap higher rewards than consulting fees.[52][59] He initially refrained from accepting the offer, and Bain re-arranged the terms in a complicated partnership structure so that there was no financial or professional risk to Romney.[52][62][66] Thus, in 1984, Romney left Bain & Company to co-found the spin-off private equity investment firm, Bain Capital.[64] In the face of skepticism from potential investors, Bain and Romney spent a year raising the $37 million in funds needed to start the new operation, which had fewer than ten employees.[56][62][67] As general partner of the new firm, Romney spent little money on costs such as office appearance, and saw weak spots in so many potential deals that by 1986, few had been done.[52] At first, Bain Capital focused on venture capital opportunities.[52] Their first big success was a 1986 investment to help start Staples Inc., after founder Thomas G. Stemberg convinced Romney of the market size for office supplies and Romney convinced others; Bain Capital eventually reaped a nearly sevenfold return on its investment, and Romney sat on the Staples board of directors for over a decade.[52][67][68]

    Romney soon switched Bain Capital's focus from startups to the relatively new business of leveraged buyouts: buying existing firms with money mostly borrowed against their assets, partnering with existing management to apply the "Bain way" to their operations (rather than the hostile takeovers practiced in other leverage buyout scenarios), and selling them off in a few years.[52][62] Existing CEOs were offered large equity stakes in the process, owing to Bain Capital's belief in the emerging agency theory that CEOs should be bound to maximizing shareholder value rather than other goals.[68] Bain Capital lost most of its money in many of its early leveraged buyouts, but then started finding deals that made large returns.[52] The firm invested in or acquired Accuride, Brookstone, Domino's Pizza, Sealy Corporation, Sports Authority, and Artisan Entertainment, as well as lesser-known companies in the industrial and medical sectors.[52][62][69] He ran Bain Capital for fourteen years, during which time the firm's average annual internal rate of return on realized investments was 113 percent.[56] Much of this profit was earned from a relatively small number of deals; Bain Capital's overall success–to–failure ratio was about even.[nb 8]

    Romney discovered few investment opportunities himself, instead focusing on analyzing the merits of possible deals that others brought forward and recruiting investors to participate in them once approved.[71] The firm initially gave a cut of its profits to Bain & Company, but Romney persuaded Bain to give that up.[66] Within Bain Capital, Romney spread profits from deals widely within the firm to keep people motivated, often keeping less than ten percent for himself.[72] Viewed as a fair manager, he received considerable loyalty from the firm's members.[68] Romney's wary instincts were still in force at times, and he was generally data-driven and averse to risk.[52][68] He wanted to drop a Bain Capital hedge fund that initially lost money, but other partners prevailed and it eventually gained billions.[52] He also personally opted out of the Artisan Entertainment deal, not wanting to profit from a studio that produced R-rated films.[52] Romney was on the board of directors of Damon Corporation, a medical testing company later found guilty of defrauding the government; Bain Capital tripled its investment before selling off the company, and the fraud was discovered by the new owners (Romney was never implicated).[52] In some cases, Romney had little involvement with a company once acquired.[67]

    "Sometimes the medicine is a little bitter but it is necessary to save the life of the patient. My job was to try and make the enterprise successful, and in my view the best security a family can have is that the business they work for is strong."

    —Mitt Romney in 2007, commenting on job losses at companies that Bain Capital executed leveraged buyouts of.[66]

    Bain Capital's leveraged buyouts sometimes led to layoffs, either soon after acquisition or later after the firm had left.[59][66][67] How jobs added compared to those lost due to these investments and buyouts is unknown, due to a lack of records and Bain Capital's penchant for privacy on behalf of itself and its investors.[73][74][75] In any case, maximizing the value of acquired companies and the return to Bain's investors, not job creation, was the firm's fundamental goal, as it was for most private equity operations.[67][76] Bain Capital's acquisition of Ampad exemplified a deal where it profited handsomely from early payments and management fees, even though the subject company itself ended up going into bankruptcy.[52][68][76] Dade Behring was another case where Bain Capital received an eightfold return on its investment, but the company itself was saddled with debt and laid off over a thousand employees before Bain Capital exited (the company subsequently went into bankruptcy, with more layoffs, before recovering and prospering).[73] Bain was among the private equity firms that took the most fees in such cases.[62][68]

    In 1990, Romney was asked to return to Bain & Company, which was facing financial collapse.[64] He was announced as its new CEO in January 1991[77][78] but drew only a symbolic salary of one dollar.[64] He managed an effort to restructure the firm's employee stock-ownership plan, real-estate deals and bank loans, while rallying the firm's thousand employees, imposing a new governing structure that included Bain and the other founding partners giving up control, and increasing fiscal transparency.[52][56][64] Within about a year, he had led Bain & Company through a turnaround and returned the firm to profitability without further layoffs or partner defections.[56] He turned Bain & Company over to new leadership and returned to Bain Capital in December 1992.[52][78][79]

    Romney stated that he was taking a leave of absence from Bain Capital in February 1999 to serve as the President and CEO of the 2002 Salt Lake City Olympic Games Organizing Committee.[52][80] According to an interview Romney gave to the Boston Herald in 1999, Romney said he would stay on part-time at Bain, but would leave running day-to-day operations to Bain's executive committee.[81] During his leave of absence, Romney continued to be listed in filings to the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission[82] as "sole shareholder, sole director, Chief Executive Officer and President".[83][84] In 2012 former Bain colleagues reported that Romney had no involvement with Bain after his departure to run the 2002 Olympics. [85]

    By that time, Bain Capital was on its way to being one of the top private equity firms in the nation,[66] having increased its number of partners from 5 to 18, with 115 employees overall, and $4 billion under its management.[62][67] Bain Capital's approach of applying consulting expertise to the companies it invested in became widely copied within the private equity industry.[24][67] Economist Steven Kaplan would later say, "[Romney] came up with a model that was very successful and very innovative and that now everybody uses."[68]

    In August 2001, Romney announced that he would not return to Bain Capital.[80] His separation from the firm was finalized in 2002;[86] he transferred his ownership to other partners and negotiated an agreement that allowed him to receive a passive profit share as a retired partner in some Bain Capital entities, including buyout and investment funds.[72][87] Because the private equity business continued to thrive, this deal brought him millions of dollars in annual income.[72]
    Mitt Romney - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Interesting. At anyrate, even though he cofounded Bain Capital, it was named after its parent company, so that wasn't really his discretion.

    "The day we stop exploring is the day we commit ourselves to live in a stagnant world, devoid of curiosity, empty of dreams."

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    Just when I thought Limbaugh couldn't get any dumber...


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    Quote Quote by: HoleyCarbonGrid View Post
    Quite honestly, I have nothing but contempt for right-wind media sources, who almost universally distort facts (if not flat-out lie) in order to scare, cajole, or mislead their listeners/viewers into supporting conservative positions.

    Take, for example, the phantom strong gun control policies President Obama is supposedly advancing:


    President Obama's Anti-Gun Agenda Shows No Sign of Stopping | Fox News


    Crying wolf over Obama and gun control - Los Angeles Times

    Or, take for example, the supposed two-billion-dollar trip that Obama took to Mumbai in 2010.

    Glenn Beck: Obama's Unnecessary Trip to India | Fox News

    Except that that's not at all true....
    Debunking the myth: The cost of Obama's trip to Asia - CNN
    FactCheck.org : Trip to Mumbai

    All that just to say that Rush Limbaugh has now, officially, gone over the edge and is possibly the dumbest windbag in a field full of idiotic windbags.



    Rush Limbaugh takes on Batman: Says

    In other words, Limbaugh is saying that director Christopher Nolan and the writers of "The Dark Knight Rises," are engaged in a conspiracy to... somehow... attack Mitt Romney. Never mind that the movie was written years ago, and filmed a year ago - well before Mitt Romney was the presumptive Republican nominee. Nevermind that the character was introduced in 1993, around the time Romney was first even considering entering politics. Nevermind that the character was also in that terrible, terrible Batman movie with George Clooney.

    Clearly, it's all a giant left-wing conspiracy to attack Mitt Romney by making people unconsciously associate Bain Capital, the company he founded and chaired, with Bane, an insane criminal in a freaking movie.

    Apparently, if you're a right-wing media personality, you don't have to use the truth, or have facts, or sources... you just need to assume that people are as dumb as you are, and say whatever you want.
    I find Michael Savage more dangerous. He poses as a pseudo-intellectual. At least Limbaugh makes no attempt to cover his stupidity.


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    Quote Quote by: Rush

    World on Fire Over Batman and El Rushbo
    July 18, 2012

    BEGIN TRANSCRIPT

    RUSH: It has been quite instructive. This has been very, very illustrative, ladies and gentlemen. Yesterday on this program I uttered some words about the new Batman movie, and the evil villain named Bane. I made some comments about it. Doesn't matter what. I have had more reaction to that than anything, including the Fluke thing. I've had my brother telling me that Twitter is going nuts. I've been getting hateful e-mail, supportive e-mail. More people are concerned about whatever I might have said or didn't say about a Batman villain than they are about their own jobs. It's incredible. But, as I say, it's quite instructive, and it's quite illustrative.

    I never said that the villain was created by the comic book character creator to be part of the 2012 campaign. I never said that at all. Everybody's out there running around saying I got this giant conspiracy theory that the Batman people, the creators, the comic book creators, created this thing to campaign against Romney. I never said that. I didn't say there was a conspiracy. I said the Democrats were going to use it, which they are. Jon Stewart's harping on it.
    World on Fire Over Batman and El Rushbo - The Rush Limbaugh Show
    "I said the Democrats were going to use it, which they are."

    Hmmm....imagine that...

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    Tsk tsk Dieval. Buying anything anyone says so long as it is what you want to hear.

    This evil villain in the new Batman movie is named Bane,” Limbaugh continued. “And there's now discussion out there as to whether or not this was purposeful, and whether or not it will influence voters.

    “It's going to have a lot of people. This movie, the audience is going to be huge, lot of people are going to see the movie. And it's a lot of brain-dead people, entertainment, the pop-culture crowd. And they're going to hear Bane in the movie, and they are going to associate Bain, and the thought is that when they start paying attention to the campaign later in the year, and Obama, the Democrats keep talking about Bain, not Bain Capital, but Bain, Romney and Bain, that these people will think back to the Batman movie -- "Oh yeah, I know who that is" That's -- there are some people who think it will work.”
    Read more: Rush Limbaugh takes on Batman: Says

    "The day we stop exploring is the day we commit ourselves to live in a stagnant world, devoid of curiosity, empty of dreams."

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FMNFvKEy4c

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    Quote Quote by: Dieval View Post
    "I said the Democrats were going to use it, which they are."

    Hmmm....imagine that...
    Still stupid. John Stewart is a comedian. He's not meant to be taken seriously.


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    Quote Quote by: Yarn View Post
    Tsk tsk Dieval. Buying anything anyone says so long as it is what you want to hear.

    Read more: Rush Limbaugh takes on Batman: Says
    Hmmm...sounds like you're doing that too... tsk tsk


    Quote Quote by: Dan74 View Post
    Still stupid. John Stewart is a comedian. He's not meant to be taken seriously.
    Then why do people take him seriously?

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