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    Obama the Liberal - He's Back

    News for the past six months or so has been replete with Obama becoming more and more like the candidate he once was - an unapologetic liberal fighting for serious change, rather than the spineless compromiser of the past three years. Here's the latest example: Obama just gutted Clinton's disastrous welfare reform by removing the work requirement.

    Republicans accuse HHS of gutting welfare reform with quiet policy change | Fox News

    Department of Health and Human Services quietly notified states that they may seek a waiver for the program's strict work requirements.

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    How exactly the HHS change will play out is unclear. In Thursday's policy directive, the department said the states may seek a waiver from the work component of the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families Program, in order to "test alternative and innovative strategies, policies and procedures that are designed to improve employment outcomes for needy families."


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    Bourgeois politics makes me lol


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    In the run up to the election, Obama has been much more comfortable with expanding the powers of the executive branch than he was for most of his presidency. Although I see this as a positive development given how fucked up congress is, I don't think it represents a shift to the left. It just represents him doing things he always wanted to do but didn't do because he was operating under a more constrained idea of what the executive can and cannot do. Whatever he can't do by himself, he needs to get through congress. That necessitated compromise.

    Regarding gay marriage, I think he always was in favor of legalizing it, but was unwilling to come out of the closet about that until the poll numbers showed it wouldn't hurt him much.

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    He is a racist, anti-American, Communist. He is a stain on the American Presidency, and deserves to be kicked out of the country. As for you left wing nuts, don't worry, he still is on your side. Its just that he is playing his cards wisely, just wait, you will be very pleasantly surprised later on down the line. He isn't going to come out of the closet and scream he is a flaming Commy until after he wins the election...I think he will do everything in his power to assure that he wins...cheating works for him.


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    I think an inability to see your opponent's clearly rather than in the form of a ridiculous caricature is reflective of a dangerous lack of empathy and a potential justification for all manner of evil.

    "The day we stop exploring is the day we commit ourselves to live in a stagnant world, devoid of curiosity, empty of dreams."

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    He is a racist, anti-American, Communist. He is a stain on the American Presidency, and deserves to be kicked out of the country. As for you left wing nuts, don't worry, he still is on your side. Its just that he is playing his cards wisely, just wait, you will be very pleasantly surprised later on down the line. He isn't going to come out of the closet and scream he is a flaming Commy until after he wins the election...I think he will do everything in his power to assure that he wins...cheating works for him.
    Actually, the Republicans are the ones who cheat by engaging in various forms of voter suppression. And Obama isn't a communist. At all.

    But truth, Hajjaj was convinced, held many layers.

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    Quote Quote by: Whatssnew View Post
    He is a racist, anti-American, Communist. He is a stain on the American Presidency, and deserves to be kicked out of the country. As for you left wing nuts, don't worry, he still is on your side. Its just that he is playing his cards wisely, just wait, you will be very pleasantly surprised later on down the line. He isn't going to come out of the closet and scream he is a flaming Commy until after he wins the election...I think he will do everything in his power to assure that he wins...cheating works for him.
    First, stop trolling.

    Second, communism and liberalism are horribly different from one another. Lenin and the Bolsheviks killed thousands of liberals. So did Stalin. So did Mao. Just about any communist you can think of, historical or present, is anti-liberal.

    Third, Obama has advocated nothing even resembling communism. This is where your ignorance shines the most. Maybe you should understand what liberalism and communism are before you say things like this.


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    I think an inability to see your opponent's clearly rather than in the form of a ridiculous caricature is reflective of a dangerous lack of empathy and a potential justification for all manner of evil.
    As far as words are concerned, empathy can go sit on a land mine for all I care. As far as actions on concerned, empathy is an important factor, but by no means should it govern action.

    As for Adolf Obama, he deserves no empathy. He is a traitor, a bigot, a back stabber, an enemy to peace, an enemy to justice, and an enemy to liberty. Because of Obama the world is worse off, and by Islamist groups the blood of genocide stains his hands.


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    as for adolf obama, he deserves no empathy. He is a traitor, a bigot, a back stabber, an enemy to peace, an enemy to justice, and an enemy to liberty. Because of obama the world is worse off, and by islamist groups the blood of genocide stains his hands.
    lmao

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    Quote Quote by: Dan74 View Post
    First, stop trolling.

    Second, communism and liberalism are horribly different from one another. Lenin and the Bolsheviks killed thousands of liberals. So did Stalin. So did Mao. Just about any communist you can think of, historical or present, is anti-liberal.

    Third, Obama has advocated nothing even resembling communism. This is where your ignorance shines the most. Maybe you should understand what liberalism and communism are before you say things like this.
    Did you forget that Obama was a member of the Communist party for a time?

    Socialism is the stepping stone to Communism.

    Socialism:
    a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.
    Communism:
    a theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common, actual ownership being ascribed to the community as a whole or to the state.

    Socialism | Define Socialism at Dictionary.com
    Communism | Define Communism at Dictionary.com


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    As for Adolf Obama, he deserves no empathy. He is a traitor, a bigot, a back stabber, an enemy to peace, an enemy to justice, and an enemy to liberty.
    A juxtaposition of a far-right fascist with a person whose political views are at best highly centric leftism. A statement expressing a lack of basic human feeling that another person exists and has other political views. A statement of fact expressing the author's belief that the person described is doing willful harm to one's country; is unreasonably hostile towards another group of human beings; is capable of going against his word to the willful harm of a person who trusts him; war-like; is capable of unjust commands; and is against the idea of "liberty", the definition of which escapes you even more than it escapes me.

    This is a sad, pitiably weak diatribe against a flawed but decent human being. I'll never understand such unrelenting, unbearable hatred for people whose only crime is not agreeing with you. For all the weakness in your positions, for all its arrogance and sheer ignorance, I still respect that you have a difference of opinion, and unlike you, I would fight to the death anyone who would seek to take it away from you - as would Obama, I daresay. Keep that in mind while you seethe in rage at the unconscionable act of seeking to help the less fortunate, which is the liberal viewpoint at its very heart.

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    Did you forget that Obama was a member of the Communist party for a time?
    Oh fucking prove it already, will you? And even if he were, SO WHAT? I've met communists. They're not any worse than you or I. They're what's known as "human beings with a difference of opinion". When did that become a bloody crime?

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