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    The ideal government

    Personally, I feel as though a World Government is the most appropriate. Of course this government would be lead by a similar committee as the United Nations but rather than separate dealing countries, different regions have representatives that are all guided under the global government. This of course would allow global policing under the same government. Adequate separation of church and "state". Ultimately it would maintain a much more progressive and humanitarian movement.

    Thoughts? Additions? Your ideal government?

    As the pattern gets more intricate and subtle, being swept along is no longer enough.

    "I don't think they really walk like that on the moon, it just doesn't seem progressive."

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    Quote Quote by: Medensis View Post
    Personally, I feel as though a World Government is the
    most appropriate.
    Of course this government would be lead by a similar
    committee as the United Nations but rather than separate dealing
    countries, different regions have representatives that
    are all guided under the global government.
    It's an unlikely, undesirable situation, to say the least, and will likely remain so for the foreseeable future. Consider much of America and its
    attitude towards Islam, and vice versa. How is a "world government" going to start dealing with that?

    Radical Muslims feel US foreign policy is part of a Jewish conspiracy.
    How would a global environment disprove such a charge?
    In addition to US support of Israel, you can find prominent policymakers like this:
    "Joseph A. Morris is a member of the Chicago law
    firm of Morris, Rathnau & De La Rosa. From 1981 through 1988 he
    served in senior legal positions in the administration of
    President Ronald Reagan, including as Chief of Staff and
    General Counsel of the United States Information Agency, as
    Director (with the rank of Assistant Attorney General of the
    United States) of the Office of Liaison Services of the
    Department of Justice, and as a United States delegate to the
    United Nations Commission on Human Rights at Geneva. He also
    served from 1981 through 1996, during the administrations of
    Presidents Reagan, Bush, and Clinton, on the Administrative
    Conference of the United States. He was the founder and first
    Chairman of the Center for Public Policy of B'nai B'rith
    International, the world's oldest and largest Jewish
    organization, and is currently the President of the Midwest
    Region of B'nai B'rith in the United States.
    http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CREC-19...1-PgE415-2.pdf

    To confuse matters, the United States also backs various Islamic radicals throughout the world.

    Attempts at implementing a "global government" have already backfired, really. US foreign policy -- often with assistance from the UN -- has helped create more animosity and more wars.

    In addition to the UN, we already have organizations like the OECD:
    "A large part of the forum's research today is devoted
    to developing (among many other things) worldwide Internet policies.
    The organization, guided by "soft-law" principles, provides members
    with a meeting place to hammer out agreements. OECD nations, in turn, are
    expected to implement agreed-upon practices back home..."
    http://www.wired.com/politics/law/ne...urrentPage=all

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    Well, imposing Western-style secular democracy on the rest of the world is likely a pipe dream, though no mainstream politician will come out and say so.

    But truth, Hajjaj was convinced, held many layers.

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    Quote Quote by: Medensis View Post
    Personally, I feel as though a World Government is the most appropriate. Of course this government would be lead by a similar committee as the United Nations but rather than separate dealing countries, different regions have representatives that are all guided under the global government. This of course would allow global policing under the same government. Adequate separation of church and "state". Ultimately it would maintain a much more progressive and humanitarian movement.

    Thoughts? Additions? Your ideal government?
    Yes. This is a good idea. The only disagreement I have is with your separation of church and state. I think elimination of church would be a better alternative.


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    Yes. This is a good idea. The only disagreement I have is with your separation of church and state. I think elimination of church would be a better alternative.
    Haha, yes I agree. I had a conversation with a friend and he suggested it's elimination all together. The question is.. How do you do that without force? Some might ask what the problem with keeping it around is.. Simple, it's infectious properties should be far from the younger generations so they can assume a rational lifestyle.

    Having a global government isn't a difficult thing to achieve. Allied nations agreeing to it's formation would of course exclude and cut off all nations that are not in agreement. Passive aggression, if you will. This of course would bully them into the realization that they need the allied nations support to thrive as a region. Conflict of course would erupt but that could be handled, no?

    As the pattern gets more intricate and subtle, being swept along is no longer enough.

    "I don't think they really walk like that on the moon, it just doesn't seem progressive."

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    Quote Quote by: Medensis View Post
    Haha, yes I agree. I had a conversation with a friend and he suggested it's elimination all together. The question is.. How do you do that without force? Some might ask what the problem with keeping it around is.. Simple, it's infectious properties should be far from the younger generations so they can assume a rational lifestyle.

    Having a global government isn't a difficult thing to achieve. Allied nations agreeing to it's formation would of course exclude and cut off all nations that are not in agreement. Passive aggression, if you will. This of course would bully them into the realization that they need the allied nations support to thrive as a region. Conflict of course would erupt but that could be handled, no?
    What would be the economic system of this government?


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    What would be the economic system of this government?
    I suppose an Inclusive Democracy would be most appropriate.

    As the pattern gets more intricate and subtle, being swept along is no longer enough.

    "I don't think they really walk like that on the moon, it just doesn't seem progressive."

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    I suppose an Inclusive Democracy would be most appropriate.
    Imagine this country with the same problems that we have today. No voter education, no resolution on abortion, gay marriage, foreign policy - that will take up most of the time of the leaders, and these things can spin in cycles as they look for support. Or...

    Imagine north korea. With a greater gdp, this country could be paradise on earth to manage! Think of not having to pander to voters, to pander to your cabinet instead, and just to lay things down as is. Imagine all that spare time that the people will have to use freely to go to spend time with each other? No drugs, no real crime...

    !! Going to my destruction !!

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    Quote Quote by: Medensis View Post
    I suppose an Inclusive Democracy would be most appropriate.
    Dude!!!!! I agree with 100%. An inclusive democracy is a great idea. Let's start a fucking revolution. Fuck capitalism.


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    Quote Quote by: Charlatan View Post
    Imagine this country with the same problems that we have today. No voter education, no resolution on abortion, gay marriage, foreign policy - that will take up most of the time of the leaders, and these things can spin in cycles as they look for support. Or...

    Imagine north korea. With a greater gdp, this country could be paradise on earth to manage! Think of not having to pander to voters, to pander to your cabinet instead, and just to lay things down as is. Imagine all that spare time that the people will have to use freely to go to spend time with each other? No drugs, no real crime...
    There's a middleground.

    As the pattern gets more intricate and subtle, being swept along is no longer enough.

    "I don't think they really walk like that on the moon, it just doesn't seem progressive."

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    There's a middleground.
    Well, would everything be as taken care of, with enough time to spend on everything else?

    !! Going to my destruction !!

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    Well, would everything be as taken care of, with enough time to spend on everything else?
    It would be a complete overhaul. A new international "Constitution". With priority of course being civil rights and liberties. With separation of church and state being upheld, I don't think we'd have any of the current equality issues en mass.

    I think this would ultimately shoot us forward in technological, economical, political, and scientific progress.

    As the pattern gets more intricate and subtle, being swept along is no longer enough.

    "I don't think they really walk like that on the moon, it just doesn't seem progressive."

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