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bishop · Feb 4, 2005, 11:03 pm

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/02/04/fam...ure/index.html

this is one of the sickest things i've ever heard. their penalty should be a taste of their own medicine.

Scribbler1 · Feb 4, 2005, 11:35 pm

I agree, and personally I would support something a bit harsher (and more final) than "their own medicine". But what's the point here. I'll wager nobody here will take a contrary stand so I don't see any debate.
The manner of punishment, perhaps?

bishop · Feb 4, 2005, 11:42 pm

eh.. i didn't really post it up for debate to be honest. it's definitely news though.

you got a point though.. basic imprisonment doesn't exactly seem like justice to me. and the fact that they didn't harm 2 of them, while they did that to the others.. can't understand that, along with everything else.

Scribbler1 · Feb 5, 2005, 12:50 am

That they didn't hurt their 2 "favorites" tells me an insanity defense wouldn't work too well. The legal defense of not knowing right from wrong is not there as they spared the 2 they liked.
This tells me they are just rotten scumbags and a complete waste of skin.
I'd be happy if they quit breathing my air.

bishop · Feb 5, 2005, 12:56 am

it's kind of unbelievable that the 17 year old girl didn't do anything to help them. obviously she witnessed all of that shit. feh.. i'd put them on the running man show.

Scribbler1 · Feb 5, 2005, 01:04 am

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it's kind of unbelievable that the 17 year old girl didn't do anything to help them. obviously she witnessed all of that shit. feh.. i'd put them on the running man show.

The movie was horrible. One lousy pun after another.

The girl could have feared for her life, but I think it more likely she sided with the "parents" and believed anything they told her. I'll also bet she didn't get out much. Maybe not tortured but I think a "normal" life for this girl wasn't happening.

G. Adams · Feb 5, 2005, 09:10 am

You know if someone comes into prison with a record like that and as soft as those 2 will be, it's not like a custodial sentance is gonna be an easy ride. I'll bet the guards will let the inmates know what they've done and were they're sleeping before they even turn up. I'd expect one of them to probably commit suicide, probably the guy, within the first year.

Scribbler1 · Feb 5, 2005, 09:59 am

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You know if someone comes into prison with a record like that and as soft as those 2 will be, it's not like a custodial sentance is gonna be an easy ride. I'll bet the guards will let the inmates know what they've done and were they're sleeping before they even turn up. I'd expect one of them to probably commit suicide, probably the guy, within the first year.

That used to be conventional wisdon, in that even felons have a code of ethics and will trash killers of women and children etc..
Used to be.
My understanding of the situation now, as told to me by people who have seen the inside of prison, is that it's not the same and even the most depraved are accepted. Of course, some are not, but a lot are.

You just can't get good ethical jailbirds anymore, it seems.

bishop · Feb 5, 2005, 10:34 am

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The movie was horrible. One lousy pun after another.

no way man! sure, it dragged on towards the end, but it was a cool concept imo. good special effects for its time.

anyways.. from what i learned in the 1 criminal justice class i took, was that they generally try to separate these sorts of criminals from people like rapists and murderers. usually, these people get placed in solitary confinement, which sucks, but not as much as getting gangraped by a bunch of homeboys.

there've been lots of cases like this from what i've learned.. what the hell drives someone to do such things?

Scribbler1 · Feb 5, 2005, 10:46 am

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there've been lots of cases like this from what i've learned.. what the hell drives someone to do such things?

I don't understand it, and frankly I'm thrilled NOT to understand. I get the feeling if you can really understand it, you might be capable of DOING something like that.

PatrickHenry · Feb 5, 2005, 01:46 pm

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what the hell drives someone to do such things?

Laugh at me if you like...IMO, demons (invisible spirit beings of utter evil).

gr8fuldaniel · Feb 6, 2005, 11:11 am

WWRS?.........What Would Rush Say?
"They were just having a good time.......Blowing off a little steam."
........and that their actions served as an "emotional release."

Feb 4, 2005, 11:03 pm	#1 (permalink) (top)
bishop moderat-e/o-r Location: boston Posts: 11,184	torture story http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/02/04/fam...ure/index.html this is one of the sickest things i've ever heard. their penalty should be a taste of their own medicine.

Feb 5, 2005, 09:10 am	#7 (permalink) (top)
G. Adams Fyrdman Location: Middlesbrough UK Posts: 4,161	You know if someone comes into prison with a record like that and as soft as those 2 will be, it's not like a custodial sentance is gonna be an easy ride. I'll bet the guards will let the inmates know what they've done and were they're sleeping before they even turn up. I'd expect one of them to probably commit suicide, probably the guy, within the first year. Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. Winston Churchill

Feb 6, 2005, 11:11 am	#12 (permalink) (top)
gr8fuldaniel Fire the Liars Location: California Posts: 7,090	WWRS?.........What Would Rush Say? "They were just having a good time.......Blowing off a little steam." ........and that their actions served as an "emotional release." ~~ Helpful Linx * Huff Post * WRH * RAW STORY ~~

Feb 4, 2005, 11:35 pm	#2 (permalink) (top)
Scribbler1 Skeptical Patriot Posts: 7,746	I agree, and personally I would support something a bit harsher (and more final) than "their own medicine". But what's the point here. I'll wager nobody here will take a contrary stand so I don't see any debate. The manner of punishment, perhaps?

Feb 4, 2005, 11:42 pm	#3 (permalink) (top)
bishop moderat-e/o-r Location: boston Posts: 11,184	eh.. i didn't really post it up for debate to be honest. it's definitely news though. you got a point though.. basic imprisonment doesn't exactly seem like justice to me. and the fact that they didn't harm 2 of them, while they did that to the others.. can't understand that, along with everything else.

Feb 5, 2005, 12:50 am	#4 (permalink) (top)
Scribbler1 Skeptical Patriot Posts: 7,746	That they didn't hurt their 2 "favorites" tells me an insanity defense wouldn't work too well. The legal defense of not knowing right from wrong is not there as they spared the 2 they liked. This tells me they are just rotten scumbags and a complete waste of skin. I'd be happy if they quit breathing my air.

Feb 5, 2005, 12:56 am	#5 (permalink) (top)
bishop moderat-e/o-r Location: boston Posts: 11,184	it's kind of unbelievable that the 17 year old girl didn't do anything to help them. obviously she witnessed all of that shit. feh.. i'd put them on the running man show.