State of the Union Address 2005

[gr8fuldaniel]

State of the Union Address 2005
Full Transcript

Do you feel like GW Bush came clean with us?
Are you more confident now after hearing about Bushs views of our "condition"?
Did he address the issues most important to Americans today?
Did it seem like an ad campaign straight out of Madison Ave. ?
Did he address the "Mission Accomplished" of promises kept from SOTU 2004?
Did you spot his 1st lie?
a) What was it?
b) Did he lie at all?

[gr8fuldaniel]

If you checked this thread earlier, I had a link to an old SOTU address. The link above is correct now. The White house doesnt offer a Transcript of speech. They would have to rewrite Nuke - U- lar. (Because nobody has the courage to tell Bush he has been pronouncing it like a hillbilly all this time?) Also they would just have to scrub it later as they edit facts and history.

All they offer now is this squeeky clean Summary

[Milton Bradley]

LOL, a little revisionist history for our loyal audience, huh?


Now come on, that is just a little skeptical on your part. (sarcasm)

[Scribbler1]

I don't watch infomercials.

Sorry.

[bishop]

my girl and i were just getting intimate.. then that hick had to come on and completely kill the mood.

we heard maybe 4 minutes of it before turning it off in disguist. i heard a couple lines that i heard many times already (going back from his 2000 campaign). and the best one was where he, for possibly the first time ever, talked at great length about the state of a foreign nation's union. what a goddamn traitor.. i thought the speech was supposed to be about the state of OUR union.. asshole wants to spend all sorts of money on foreigners while putting the american taxpayer deeper and deeper into national debt. if he should suddenly die or get killed, i'm throwing a block party.

[Milton Bradley]

Why, to celebrate Cheney's move up the ladder. :)


How about pressure from citizens to get a referendum on the removal of government altogether. Then we can proceed with another election with all new candidates.


In the War, and Emergency Powers Act, Congress themselves came to the coonclusion that their jobs were irrelavent, and that they served little funtion in modern government.


http://www.city-net.com/~davekle/warpwrs.html


http://www.americanfellowship.net/Article13.html


Why pretend any longer? There is no representative government left in this country.

[bishop]

i wonder how long it'll take until he loses his patience and starts another war - with iran this time.

[gr8fuldaniel]

Quote by: bishop i wonder how long it'll take until he loses his patience and starts another war - with iran this time.

I doubt they can pull that off. Congress wont cosign it.
Our military is overextended now. And dont forget the expense.
Besides, they havent asked us to liberate them, have they?
We havent collected $300 billion worth of candy and flowers from Iraq yet.
I say no more freedom fighting until we collect. They dont seem to appreciate us.

[Scribbler1]

Quote by: bishop my girl and i were just getting intimate.. then that hick had to come on and completely kill the mood.

And you had network TV on at the time? It wasn't him killing the mood; your mood committed suicide.

Whatever happened to music and that stuff?

[Scribbler1]

Quote by: gr8fuldaniel I doubt they can pull that off. Congress wont cosign it. Our military is overextended now. And dont forget the expense. Besides, they havent asked us to liberate them, have they? We havent collected $300 billion worth of candy and flowers from Iraq yet. I say no more freedom fighting until we collect. They dont seem to appreciate us.

Don't forget the U.N. resolution we used as an excuse. It won't be there for Iran.

[gr8fuldaniel]

Speaking of Iran.......The Ayatollah responds to Bushs speech:
Reuters Story

"Bush is the fifth U.S. president to want to uproot the Iranian nation and the Islamic Republic," he told university students. "But he will be as successful as Jimmy Carter, (Ronald) Reagan, (George) Bush senior and (Bill) Clinton," he added, referring to the five previous U.S. presidents who have held office since Iran's 1979 Islamic revolution. Khamenei, who has the last word on all state matters, was responding to Bush's State of the Union address Wednesday in which he called Iran the "world's primary state sponsor of terror" and again accused it of seeking to build atomic weapons.

Also mentioned in the story: Why doesnt America bring Democracy to countries that dont have oil?

[bishop]

Quote by: Scribbler1 And you had network TV on at the time? It wasn't him killing the mood; your mood committed suicide. Whatever happened to music and that stuff?

it wasn't a premeditated intimate.. just a spur of the moment thing.. next thing we know, we hear the voice of an all too familiar hick on the tube. i eventually killed it and put something nice on.


and daniel... does bush even need congress's consent? under the war powers act, he's authorized to do whatever he wants. and once he creates the mess, the only power congress has is to appropriate funds which decides whether/not the mission will continue (they've always decided to appropriate the funds). i've said this in several threads now, the time for us to hit iraq is now, because we control its borders. not that i favor any aggression on our part, but we're definitely poised for the attack. if you figure that we train the iraqis within 1-2 years, bush has more than enough time to reposition the military to attack iran. that's the scary reality of it all... i'm hoping that the american public will come to their senses and vote for the alternative in 2002.. with bush pushing this idiotic social security agenda, they have a good shot of winning.

[Melvyn]

Quote by: gr8fuldaniel Speaking of Iran.......The Ayatollah responds to Bushs speech: Reuters Story Also mentioned in the story: Why doesnt America bring Democracy to countries that dont have oil?

Not that I have much faith in Bush, but are you really seeking tuth from the Ayatollah? Just wondering.

Melvyn

[tinybear]

What's the point about a State of The Union Address? I mean I know it's a tradition, but does it serve any purpose anymore? It's just another opportunity for the President to justify what he has done and explain why he hasn't done what everybody thinks he should do. In other words, propaganda. Do away with it, I say. We can do without it.

[Mr.Vicchio]

I thought it was one of his best speeches, and he laid out his arguements for massive overhaul of Social Security and what he plans to do in the next 4 years.

That's the real point of the Address, aside being mandated by the Constitution.

[bishop]

the real point of the speech is to blow all sorts of hot air and promises up our asses.. he aims to do more for the public via federal spending, while continuing to reduce government revenues. good that he's interested in reforming social security, but it'd be nice if his bullshit list of principles didn't essentially eliminate all the options. younger generations don't deserve to be indebted by $2+ trillion in short-term borrowing. like everything else he does, that is the epitomy of irresponsibility.

[Scribbler1]

Quote by: bishop the real point of the speech is to blow all sorts of hot air and promises up our asses.. .

Precisely. The speech has ALWAYS been, "I'm great; I've done great things; I'm gonna do MORE great things. Aintcha glad you elected me?"
It's always been that way. It's also always been a waste of my time to watch it. Therefore I spent the time reading "Maximum PC" magazine.

[Scribbler1]

Quote by: Mr.Vicchio ...and what he plans to do in the next 4 years.

True, but since no president will ever lay out any plans that have the slightest chance of being unpopular I see this as a waste of time.
I wonder if Bush would have gotten any flack if he had just scheduled another news conference to replace the speech and said he didn't feel the speech was necessary, and then cancelled it.

[Mr.Vicchio]

Yes he would have been impeached for failing his consitutional requirement to give the Address.

[gr8fuldaniel]

Quote by: bishop and daniel... does bush even need congress's consent? under the war powers act, he's authorized to do whatever he wants. and once he creates the mess, the only power congress has is to appropriate funds which decides whether/not the mission will continue (they've always decided to appropriate the funds).

After Demonizing OBL, who was just a disposable boogey man, and Saddam Hussein who HAD NO WMDs Hopefully, in the future,(using the utter failure/quagmire in Iraq as an example) there will at least be some debate and opposition. I know they have no shame when it comes to murdering innocent bystanders, but if a few bold congressmen and senators will question them about what their TRUE motives are, they wont be in such a rush to kill for profit. They lied to us about OBL and Saddam. I am not just getting over it. Good people are dead. Maybe our representatives will do their jobs now.
Do you think Iran will be easier than a sanction starved, unarmed Iraq?

Quote by: Melvyn Quote by: gr8fuldaniel Speaking of Iran.......The Ayatollah responds to Bushs speech: Reuters Story Also mentioned in the story: Why doesnt America bring Democracy to countries that dont have oil? Not that I have much faith in Bush, but are you really seeking tuth from the Ayatollah? Just wondering.

You dont care how world leaders feel about us? If I were looking for truth, Bush jr. is the last place on earth I would start looking. In fact I wouldnt rely on any politician any further than I could throw em. Heres a better article reporting from Tehran: Radio Free Europe
We are bullys. Its just that simple. We need to bring our troops home. Bush lies about fighting them over there instead of here at home. Isnt that what thugs and gangsters do?
Oh yeah, and Don Quixote.

Quote by: bishop good that he's interested in reforming social security, but it'd be nice if his bullshit list of principles didn't essentially eliminate all the options.

Social Security is just another pot o' gold they can steal from. They emptied the treasury in their 1st year of tyranny. They are drooling over all that loot just sitting there. What the hell, Jesus is coming back and we wont need it, right?

Quote by: Mr.Vicchio Yes he would have been impeached for failing his consitutional requirement to give the Address.

The address is required by congress and can be given in writing, constitutionally.