Iraq Blogs

[blibbka]

I have just been watching a very interesting report on Iraq and blogs from BBC newsnight. On their web-site they have links to the blogs in question, from Iraqis and one US soldier (who died recently apparently).

I think it is worth posting them here for the community to peruse as they may help inform the never-ending Iraq-related discussions with some relatively un-mediated info from the "front-line".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programme...ht/4193101.stm

Apologies if I have posted this thread in the wrong place.

[bishop]

thank you for posting this!

some incredible accounts in those blogs.

[Comrade]

Here's some. They aren't new.
All of these are Iraqi, English language blogs.

http://democracyiniraq.blogspot.com/
http://hammorabi.blogspot.com/
http://healingiraq.blogspot.com/
http://iraqelectionwire.blogspot.com/
http://www.iraq-iraqis.blogspot.com/
http://iraqataglance.blogspot.com/
http://iraqthemodel.blogspot.com/
http://jarrarsupariver.blogspot.com/
http://messopotamian.blogspot.com/
http://newsfrombaghdad.blogspot.com/

[bishop]

this sums things up pretty well:

Why is it 'terrorism' when foreigners set off bombs in London or Washington or New York and it's a 'liberation' or 'operation' when foreigners bomb whole cities in Iraq? Are we that much less important?

[Comrade]

Bishop, can you not answer that question? Can you seriously not see the difference?

and, I'm still waiting for evidence of this massive carpet bombing of Iraqi cities.

[PatrickHenry]

Quote by: Comrade waiting for evidence of this massive carpet bombing of Iraqi cities.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,143965,00.html
You like FOX NEWS, Comrade?

Few houses escaped damage from the intense American air raids late last year

[bishop]

Bishop, can you not answer that question? Can you seriously not see the difference?

obviously you didn't understand the person asking the question - it was an iraqi who, rightly so, feels victimized by the actions of our military and its leadership. we've royally fucked up several iraqi cities. when you see pictures of these places, they look like palestine - rubble alllll over the place.

but i forget... it's for their own good, right?

[Milton Bradley]

While I don't agree with everything this guy says, I thought you might enjoy a view from somebody in theatre. http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtri...680555557.html

[bishop]

As a recent example, the operation in Fallujah delivered an absolutely devastating blow to the insurgency.

yeah right..i guess if they keep telling themselves that, the problem will just magically go away.

[giuliano]

from democracyiniraq.blogspot.com:

The interview struck me because he (dubya) seemed comitted to having American involvement in Iraq until our democracy is set up. For that I am thankful.

prepare to be disappointed kiddo.... the US has a long history of forgetting and abandoning its friends when things don't turn out how they want quickly.

[Comrade]

How can guiliano speak in that snotty tone while he is fervently hoping and lobbying for just that event to occur?

[Comrade]

Quote by: PatrickHenry http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,143965,00.html You like FOX NEWS, Comrade?

Yes, and we bombed Fallujah....? To kill civilians, kill the infidel? And its not like we gave everyone, what, a month, to evacuate, or anything like that?
Good job.
From now on, there's no difference between bombing terrorist strongholds and blowing up the innocent.

[bishop]

heh.. that's great.

*you have a month to evacuate. we're coming in and we're going ot destroy your homes. we don't care if you're in them or not. we are here to liberate you, now leave and let us destroy your homes.*

such benevolent professional terrorists we can be. definitely much better than the amateur terrorist who beheads people publicly or shoots them to put them out of their misery.

[Comrade]

Ok, bishop, you're right, we bombed Fallujah just because was had a surplus of bombs and the Pentagon wanted to fund the military-industrial complex to build replacements. There are no reason at all, otherwise.

[bishop]

i don't have a problem with us going after the insurgents, but the way we do it causes more problems than it solves. you think that flattening entire cities really will help us?? that's the best insurgent recruitment technique i can think of. sure beats some nut posting messages about ousting the infadels. plus, if i was related to one of the tens/hundreds of thousands of civilians that we've killed, i'd definitely jump to kill some americans.

flattening entire cities is the easy, but fruitless and idiotic approach to solving our problems in iraq. and, it hasn't yielded any mentionable results, other than for apologists to cite some numbers about how many we killed. (too bad that the insurgents always find more recruits)

also, maybe if our "leadership" didn't have their heads way up their asses, they would've focused on post-war planning BEFORE the war. but alas, that's all in the past now and nobody thinks these retards should be held responsible. in fact, those who voted for bush rewarded their incompetence.

[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: bishop i don't have a problem with us going after the insurgents...

Are those legitamate insurgents, or are those just people my government has labeled as such.



What criteria are the "insurgents" judged on?



Says who?


Here is where the real problem lies. I,m just not sure I can believe anyting my government tells me any more.


And WHO can blame me?

[bishop]

insurgents as in - those in iraq who target our troops and the iraqi police.

[RickSp]

I live in a city roughly the same size as Fallujah. I can image how I would feel if an Islamic invader forced me out of my home, blew up everything I owned, devasted my neighborhood and killed any of my neighbors who didn't get out in time.

Would I sit back and say, "Well, gee, I'm sure glad those liberators attacked the evil insurgents?" Sure I would. Right after I picked up an RPG, an AK47 and a case of ammunition. The brutality of our military is stupidity that just feeds the rebellion against us.

[RickSp]

From the Baghdad Burning Blog.

There hasn’t been a drop of water in the faucets for six days. six days. Even at the beginning of the occupation, when the water would disappear in the summer, there was always a trickle that would come from one of the pipes in the garden. Now, even that is gone. Water is like peace- you never really know just how valuable it is until someone takes it away. It’s maddening to walk up to the sink, turn one of the faucets and hear the pipes groan with nothing. The toilets don’t function… the dishes sit piled up until two of us can manage to do them- one scrubbing and rinsing and the other pouring the water. It's amazing how as things get worse, you begin to require less and less. We have a saying for that in Iraq, "Ili yishoof il mawt, yirdha bil iskhooneh." Which means, "If you see death, you settle for a fever." We've given up on democracy, security and even electricity. Just bring back the water.

[giuliano]

Quote by: Comrade How can guiliano speak in that snotty tone while he is fervently hoping and lobbying for just that event to occur?

i think the US should continue to support a democratic iraq, or at least steps in that direction. it's habit of 'forgetting' friends is unfortunate and not what i'm hoping for.

of course that doesn't mean the military occupation should continue one minute longer than absolutely necessary