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Old Jan 11, 2005, 08:14 pm   #81 (permalink) (top)
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Forgive my antics. I think I was just raised this way. I just don't trust a handful of suits to run my life and expect me to just sit back and let them take over. We have ex KGB agents running Homeland Security.... forgive me for for unleashing my frustration.
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Old Jan 11, 2005, 11:33 pm   #82 (permalink) (top)
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We have ex KGB agents running Homeland Security
Huh? :confused:


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Old Jan 12, 2005, 01:09 am   #84 (permalink) (top)
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Interesting...a liberal and so-called conservative teaming up against someone advocating a true, Constitutional Republic. You guys have more in common than you think....
You are talking Pooey and Dieval, huh? Here's what they have in common, IMO: I hope this isn't taken as an insult, because it isn't meant to be. Pooey is a British SUBJECT. Brits aren't citizens, but subjects of the Crown. And Dieval would be a subject if that were possible in America today. I think in the Revolutionary days, Dieval would have been a Tory, supporting the crown, the establishment of the time.

The Republic we used to have here in America is such a liberating concept that many are unwilling to see it subsumed, but we respond in different ways. Some are in denial. Some become combative, others philosopical, some perhaps revolutionary...

Resurrect the Constitution...


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Old Jan 12, 2005, 04:29 am   #85 (permalink) (top)
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Interesting....although it's almost impossible to find a credible sources on this(I don't consider the links you provided, which have links back to http://www.impeach-bush-now.org and http://www.conspiracyplanet.com as very credible), could you give specific details, beside him being an ex-KGB, as to why you believe he shouldn't be a consultant to DHS?


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Old Jan 12, 2005, 09:41 am   #86 (permalink) (top)
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You are talking Pooey and Dieval, huh? Here's what they have in common, IMO: I hope this isn't taken as an insult, because it isn't meant to be. Pooey is a British SUBJECT. Brits aren't citizens, but subjects of the Crown. And Dieval would be a subject if that were possible in America today. I think in the Revolutionary days, Dieval would have been a Tory, supporting the crown, the establishment of the time.

The Republic we used to have here in America is such a liberating concept that many are unwilling to see it subsumed, but we respond in different ways. Some are in denial. Some become combative, others philosopical, some perhaps revolutionary...

Resurrect the Constitution...
So you're saying that Dieval is still a loyalist of sorts now? :eek:


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Old Jan 12, 2005, 02:59 pm   #87 (permalink) (top)
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So you're saying that Dieval is still a loyalist of sorts now? :eek:
Pooey! A moderator flame-baiting! I didn't intend to insult Dieval, and I don't want to cause this thread to wind up in the flamefest. So don't ask that question...


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Old Jan 12, 2005, 03:45 pm   #88 (permalink) (top)
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Dieval would have been a Tory
That's quite a statement to make...considering that period in history was a completely different time and not relevant to today(or to this thread) I'm not sure why you'd bring this up.....

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Old Jan 14, 2005, 01:11 pm   #89 (permalink) (top)
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Interesting....although it's almost impossible to find a credible sources on this(I don't consider the links you provided, which have links back to http://www.impeach-bush-now.org and http://www.conspiracyplanet.com as very credible), could you give specific details, beside him being an ex-KGB, as to why you believe he shouldn't be a consultant to DHS?
You really need specifics? Well, besides the fact that elements of the "disbanded" KGB have been caught blowing up apartment buildings so he could blame it on Chechans (http://www.indybay.org/uploads/assassinationofrussia.rm), they are FREAKING KGB. Globalist, COMMIE TRASH. And it's not impossible to find a crecible source. He and that other f#ck have been all over cspan.

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Old Jan 14, 2005, 01:11 pm   #90 (permalink) (top)
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That's quite a statement to make...considering that period in history was a completely different time and not relevant to today(or to this thread) I'm not sure why you'd bring this up.....

God save the queen!
God save blue-blooded Eurotrash....
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Old Jan 14, 2005, 01:21 pm   #91 (permalink) (top)
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Not in the slightest xenophobic are you?


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Old Jan 14, 2005, 02:29 pm   #92 (permalink) (top)
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You really need specifics? Well, besides the fact that elements of the "disbanded" KGB have been caught blowing up apartment buildings so he could blame it on Chechans (http://www.indybay.org/uploads/assassinationofrussia.rm), they are FREAKING KGB. Globalist, COMMIE TRASH. And it's not impossible to find a crecible source. He and that other f#ck have been all over cspan.

"Checkpoints? We have checkpoints all zee time in my cuntzry..."
"elements of the "disbanded" KGB", so basically you have no idea if he was involved? And is it so far fetched to use someone who is fimilar with terrorism tactics first hand to when trying to defend against them? It's not like he's the head of Homeland Security..he's a CONTRACTOR.

And for the record, I'm not saying I agree with hiring him to work for HS, but I'm not going to just dismiss the idea when we don't know all the facts about it.


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Old Jan 14, 2005, 05:00 pm   #93 (permalink) (top)
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elements of the "disbanded" KGB", so basically you have no idea if he was involved?
Note the "disbanded" in quotes. And I never said he was involved, merely, the criminal establishment that provides him with such, shall we say, "prestige". And when you say he's an asset because he's "familiar with terrorism", I would agree. Terrorists are pretty familiar with terrorism.

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And for the record, I'm not saying I agree with hiring him to work for HS, but I'm not going to just dismiss the idea when we don't know all the facts about it.
In other words you're being politically correct. Good comrade.
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Old Jan 14, 2005, 05:23 pm   #94 (permalink) (top)
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In other words you're being politically correct.
In other words, I'm not willing to discount the benifit of his presence just because I don't care for his background..

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Good comrade.
What do you mean by saying this to me?


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Old Jan 14, 2005, 05:35 pm   #95 (permalink) (top)
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I'm not willing to discount the benifit of his presence just because I don't care for his background.
I bet a lot of Feds said that to themselves when they were training Osama bin Laden.
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Old Jan 14, 2005, 05:59 pm   #96 (permalink) (top)
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OOPS. Primikov wasn't a KGB agent. He was the HEAD of the KGB. My mistake....
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Old Jan 14, 2005, 07:44 pm   #97 (permalink) (top)
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OOPS. Primikov wasn't a KGB agent. He was the HEAD of the KGB. My mistake....
You know, after reading a bit on this guy, I think you 2 would get along great. He was against the war in Iraq, an opponent of NATO's expansion into the former Eastern bloc, and testified in defense of the former Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic....
Yevgeny Primakov

He was also given a mandate as Chairman of the KGB to dismantle it.
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The whole situation is very similar to what large companies do when they hire hackers to help protect their networks.

And maybe you could answer my question as to what you meant by calling me comrade?


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Old Jan 14, 2005, 08:10 pm   #98 (permalink) (top)
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I meant nothing by it my Red friend. And, oh my, they are dismantling the KGB and creating three new agencies with three times the budget to replace it. That certainly means something, right? And I have nothing in common with that commie scum no matter how you try to frame him. Jesus would be against the war in Iraq and NATO/NAZI expansion as well...Do you think I have a lot in common with Christ?
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Old Jan 15, 2005, 03:00 am   #99 (permalink) (top)
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TRURO, Mass., Jan. 7 - In an unusual last-ditch move to find clues to the three-year-old killing of a freelance fashion writer, police investigators are trying to get DNA samples from every man in this Cape Cod hamlet, all 790 or so, or as many as will agree.
Police wants to solve the murder case.
Whether people agree to freely submit their DNA or not, that it those people choice.
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Old Jan 15, 2005, 11:16 am   #100 (permalink) (top)
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Thanks Rainbow. Well said.
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