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Comrade · Jan 22, 2005, 08:47 pm

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I would say honesty matters when you have to explain why they are killing our kids, dont you?

What is with you people and calling our troops helpless children? 4 out of 5 of them didn't vote for Bush because they don't believe in their mission, genius.
Or the insinuation that Bush (or, I don't remember you as well as I should, the Jews/neocons/Republican Corporate Oligarchy) himself is killing our troops, and not killers who are trying to stop the spread of democracy in Iraq?

gr8fuldaniel · Jan 23, 2005, 01:26 am

I didnt call them helpless children, I was merely saying, our politicians should be honest about why they are shipped overseas to kill and die. We are all children, in a sense.

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4 out of 5 of them didn't vote for Bush

Do you have a source for that 4 out of 5 didnt vote for Bush. Ive been waiting for them to release that. They disclose which states supposedly voted for whom, I think they shoukld disclose who the troops voted for too.
Yes , I do insinuate it is Bush that is killing them. If it werent for him we wouldnt be attacking people who are no threat to America. And lying about democracy either here or abroad.

Livemike · Jan 23, 2005, 02:54 am

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Heh, Boxer used euphemisms to tell Condi what a liar she is. TO HER FACE!

If she's so tough why use euphemisms in a forum where she can say what she wants without risk?

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rcne · Jan 23, 2005, 10:21 am

The votes were counted and Bush won - whats so hard to figure out. As far as Boxer is concerned - I look at her as just another person who can't believe they lost.

After all the polls proclaimed Kerry was leading by 3 points early in the day, and we know the media never pushes an addenda, or try to influence the 'public' opinion.

WAIT - thats just what happened. Except it failed - in the final analysis. Read the results - the 'people' have spoken despite all efforts of the media.

gr8fuldaniel · Jan 23, 2005, 03:41 pm

It would be convenient to be gullible.

Some have a standard that doesnt just overlook the obvious.

Comrade · Jan 23, 2005, 04:25 pm

I meant "did" vote for Bush, it was a typo.

gr8fuldaniel · Jan 23, 2005, 05:00 pm

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newobserver
"You have to wonder what kind of bonehead would design a computer system that would hit capacity, then continue to take votes and just throw them away," Stanford University computer science professor David Dill said.

MSM only covered a fraction of the fraud that occurred. Just because they didnt cover it doesnt mean it didnt happen.

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I meant "did" vote for Bush, it was a typo

Got a source?

gr8fuldaniel · Jan 23, 2005, 05:05 pm

In my last post I meant to add in North Carolina there was enough wrong with the election machines that they had to have a revote for local issues. I guess the presidential issue isnt important enough, to revote.

Comrade · Jan 23, 2005, 07:58 pm

Well I certainly got it from somewhere, I don't keep anything on file for you, gr8ful.

Whatever happened to the rationale behind Bush Stole the Election version 2000?
After all, he won the popular vote, whatever happened to the electoral college not mattering?

gr8fuldaniel · Jan 23, 2005, 08:41 pm

I havent heard anyone claim to know the results of the military vote. I would really like to see that. Prolly heard it on Rush?
Election 2000 is off topic. It hasnt changed except they made it easier to steal by the HAVA. They eliminated what few paper ballots there were; in exchange for all electronic with no reciept.

Comrade · Jan 23, 2005, 09:45 pm

Well, I just found it strange that all the sudden the Electoral College matters, when you spent so much time complaining that Gore won the popular vote. Bush won both.
He won the popular vote by 3 million votes. Not a small margain.
So why even complain about Ohio's electoral votes when its impossible for you to remain consistant?

Does the Electoral College only select the President when its not Bush/Neocon/Republican Corporate Oligarchy?
Election 2000 is certainly not off topic if you are contradicting yourself.

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Don't listen to Rush, so no.

gr8fuldaniel · Jan 24, 2005, 12:18 am

How do you know Bush won either the electoral or the popular, when THOUSANDS were not allowed to vote? I am tired of going over the same facts. It just doesnt sink in for those who choose to believe the official lie.

Melvyn · Feb 2, 2005, 06:54 pm

I sign on in support of Barbara Boxer. I watched her at the Rice hearings. She nailed the liar. And she had the guts to follow though with a no vote. The Republicans have decided that all opposition to Rice and Gonzalez is just democratic sour grapes, but there are real issues. As one who supports the effort in Iraq I surely don't want to be led by liars and torturers. The republicans should be ashamed of themselves for those two and the whole country should be proud of Boxer for her courageous stand on rice and the Ohio certification.

Melvyn

Jan 23, 2005, 10:21 am	#24 (permalink) (top)
rcne Moderator/nobody Posts: 1,566	The votes were counted and Bush won - whats so hard to figure out. As far as Boxer is concerned - I look at her as just another person who can't believe they lost. After all the polls proclaimed Kerry was leading by 3 points early in the day, and we know the media never pushes an addenda, or try to influence the 'public' opinion. WAIT - thats just what happened. Except it failed - in the final analysis. Read the results - the 'people' have spoken despite all efforts of the media. Live Long and Prosper (Genetics and Capitalism)

Jan 23, 2005, 03:41 pm	#25 (permalink) (top)
gr8fuldaniel Fire the Liars Location: California Posts: 7,090	It would be convenient to be gullible. Some have a standard that doesnt just overlook the obvious. ~~ Helpful Linx * Huff Post * WRH * RAW STORY ~~

Jan 23, 2005, 04:25 pm	#26 (permalink) (top)
Comrade Hot Lava Location: Texas Posts: 1,229	I meant "did" vote for Bush, it was a typo. Oh, it's really too bad, isn't it? -- http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050121/480/watw10701210224 Hahaha, that's funny. Liberals are so silly!

Jan 23, 2005, 05:05 pm	#28 (permalink) (top)
gr8fuldaniel Fire the Liars Location: California Posts: 7,090	In my last post I meant to add in North Carolina there was enough wrong with the election machines that they had to have a revote for local issues. I guess the presidential issue isnt important enough, to revote. ~~ Helpful Linx * Huff Post * WRH * RAW STORY ~~

Jan 23, 2005, 07:58 pm	#29 (permalink) (top)
Comrade Hot Lava Location: Texas Posts: 1,229	Well I certainly got it from somewhere, I don't keep anything on file for you, gr8ful. Whatever happened to the rationale behind Bush Stole the Election version 2000? After all, he won the popular vote, whatever happened to the electoral college not mattering? Oh, it's really too bad, isn't it? -- http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050121/480/watw10701210224 Hahaha, that's funny. Liberals are so silly!

Jan 23, 2005, 08:41 pm	#30 (permalink) (top)
gr8fuldaniel Fire the Liars Location: California Posts: 7,090	I havent heard anyone claim to know the results of the military vote. I would really like to see that. Prolly heard it on Rush? Election 2000 is off topic. It hasnt changed except they made it easier to steal by the HAVA. They eliminated what few paper ballots there were; in exchange for all electronic with no reciept. ~~ Helpful Linx * Huff Post * WRH * RAW STORY ~~

Jan 23, 2005, 09:45 pm	#31 (permalink) (top)
Comrade Hot Lava Location: Texas Posts: 1,229	Well, I just found it strange that all the sudden the Electoral College matters, when you spent so much time complaining that Gore won the popular vote. Bush won both. He won the popular vote by 3 million votes. Not a small margain. So why even complain about Ohio's electoral votes when its impossible for you to remain consistant? Does the Electoral College only select the President when its not Bush/Neocon/Republican Corporate Oligarchy? Election 2000 is certainly not off topic if you are contradicting yourself. --- Don't listen to Rush, so no. Oh, it's really too bad, isn't it? -- http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050121/480/watw10701210224 Hahaha, that's funny. Liberals are so silly!

Jan 24, 2005, 12:18 am	#32 (permalink) (top)
gr8fuldaniel Fire the Liars Location: California Posts: 7,090	How do you know Bush won either the electoral or the popular, when THOUSANDS were not allowed to vote? I am tired of going over the same facts. It just doesnt sink in for those who choose to believe the official lie. ~~ Helpful Linx * Huff Post * WRH * RAW STORY ~~

Feb 2, 2005, 06:54 pm	#33 (permalink) (top)
Melvyn Igneous Magma Posts: 229	I sign on in support of Barbara Boxer. I watched her at the Rice hearings. She nailed the liar. And she had the guts to follow though with a no vote. The Republicans have decided that all opposition to Rice and Gonzalez is just democratic sour grapes, but there are real issues. As one who supports the effort in Iraq I surely don't want to be led by liars and torturers. The republicans should be ashamed of themselves for those two and the whole country should be proud of Boxer for her courageous stand on rice and the Ohio certification. Melvyn