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Osborn F Enready · Dec 15, 2004, 12:44 pm

http://homepage.mac.com/duffyb/nobus...heater268.html

Please don't comment if you have not watched the link above.

My question is this...

How can anyone who watched that link above, not question the past elections methods and results?

After watching the link above, do you believe your voice is being heard, and you are being represented to the best of your electorates ability?

I welcome any comments on this, but only after you watch the link above.

Osborn F Enready · Dec 16, 2004, 09:54 am

Sorry, the link in the first post is not correct, this is it.

http://homepage.mac.com/duffyb/nobus...heater268.html

After clicking on the link, a video should start.

It is called Votergate, and it is a documentary about how the Fraud case came to be....

Rainbow · Dec 16, 2004, 11:33 am

I followed the link and : no video.
Can you submit the data, please ?

PatrickHenry · Dec 16, 2004, 01:06 pm

We were robbed. If we can get no resolution to election fraud, the resistance to tyranny must begin.

I recommend monetary resistance. Figure ways to avoid donating to the tyrannical regime. But protect yourself. There will be retaliation.

Great film, Osborn. Thanks

Osborn F Enready · Dec 16, 2004, 01:16 pm

For those who cannot view the link, I am totally confused as to why some can and some can't.

I don't claim to be a computer guru, so bear with me here....

If the link above does not work, go to this site:
http://www.ericblumrich.com/media.html

The very top listed link, titled "Votergate" is the link I am trying to attach. You can access it directly this way from the above listed site by clicking on the picture, assuming you have a media viewer. Votergate is not an Eric Blumrich piece, just one that is accesible through his site to the best of my knowledge. I didn't want people who are familliar with Blumrichs "partisan approach" to be provoked not to see it based on the idea that it was his work.

Osborn F Enready · Dec 16, 2004, 01:21 pm

Rainbow said: Can you submit the data, please ?

I say: Well, the data has been submitted several times in the "Fraud" thread started by Gr8fulDaniel. This video only helps to illustrate just how serious and viable the issue is, by showing with video proof the action/inaction of the parties accused, the events themselves, and other video documented events concerning the debate.

In my opinion, this video is essential to understanding the depth and scope of this event. The fraud case cannot be downplayed or cast aside when confronted with video-evidence of this magnitude.

I hope you all find a way to view this, and I look forward to debating the "anti-recount" activists that made themselves so prevalent in the "fraud" thread.

May liberty and justice prevail.

PatrickHenry · Dec 16, 2004, 01:46 pm

You need the "Quicktime" plugin for your browser to view the video.

Osborn F Enready · Dec 16, 2004, 02:40 pm

Pat said: You need the "Quicktime" plugin for your browser to view the video.

I say: Thanks for clarifying that Pat, I forgot too.

OberonDOtherseid · Dec 16, 2004, 10:21 pm

Any half whit with powerpoint can put together a piece of crap propaganda like that. Are you kidding, thats all the proof you have? LMAO!!!!

Osborn F Enready · Dec 16, 2004, 10:43 pm

Yea Oberon, thats it. We keep all the proof stored in a movie file on the internet, you busted us. Man, I hope the courts in Ohio don't see this, our whole case will be blown.

Your role as a Bush cheerleader is becoming tiresome.

Could you number your "witty" comments, so from now on we can avoid the one-liner issue and just stick to one number.

You could post and just say "3", and we would know that you meant slam number three, from the "Oberon Library of put-downs, insults and attempts to discredit."

It would minimize the time time reading, while still getting across the full insult you intended.

It is all about efficiency Oberon, come on man, conserve. I thought you were a conservative?

OberonDOtherseid · Dec 16, 2004, 11:14 pm

I dont give two shits what is tiresome, since when does everybody have to see things your way anway, Osbo? Who gauranteed you everthing here would go just your way? It's a goddamned short powerpoint presentation filled with propaganda and conspiracy stats. What do you want, an Oscar?

Dieval · Dec 17, 2004, 01:23 am

What kind of topic is this? Someone makes a propaganda film, puts it on a MAC website and it's supposed to be some type of credible, debatable topic?

Osborn F Enready · Dec 17, 2004, 02:12 am

Well, if anyone cared to get back on topic, some of us are still here to debate.

I hate to see a thread wasted because of derailing due to non-debate issues.

OberonDOtherseid · Dec 17, 2004, 07:28 am

Quote:

Quote by: Dieval

What kind of topic is this? Someone makes a propaganda film, puts it on a MAC website and it's supposed to be some type of credible, debatable topic?

There is your bonified proof, Dieval, after all the weeks of hearing about election fraud and how were are going to learn the truth, here it is! I think it's less than credible, it is nothing more than a propaganda film and somehow I am supposed to debate it down with some sort of argument other than, 'its a propaganda film loaded with emoting and assertions and no facts'. You tell me, Dieval, are they not losing it?

castille · Dec 17, 2004, 12:27 pm

I'm not even a Bush supporter, and the NAME of that site already puts me off.

Hey I also read on a Geocities site that we are supposed to be descendents of an alien god called Zordon. Is this also true? I mean the guy made a .jpeg file of a drawing of Zordon, so it must be.

Lou Minotti · Dec 17, 2004, 03:20 pm

Bev Harris has been documenting this since 2000. Sadly, Bush worshippers don't have a clue and if it's not on their radar screen, it's a "conspiracy theory". Just ignore the people that can't comment on this serious issue without strapping a tin foil hat on everybody. Let the people who worship government continue to dig their own graves. Patriots without emotional investments only past this point...

Dec 15, 2004, 12:44 pm	#1 (permalink) (top)
Osborn F Enready Principled Observer Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 13,907	For those who believe FRAUD in the vote was not "probable" http://homepage.mac.com/duffyb/nobus...heater268.html Please don't comment if you have not watched the link above. My question is this... How can anyone who watched that link above, not question the past elections methods and results? After watching the link above, do you believe your voice is being heard, and you are being represented to the best of your electorates ability? I welcome any comments on this, but only after you watch the link above. Petition of Redress of Grievances: http://www.givemeliberty.org/default.htm Canadian Lawsuit Against Their National Banks: http://www.freewebs.com/classaction/ Osborn F. Enready

Dec 16, 2004, 09:54 am	#2 (permalink) (top)
Osborn F Enready Principled Observer Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 13,907	Sorry, the link in the first post is not correct, this is it. http://homepage.mac.com/duffyb/nobus...heater268.html After clicking on the link, a video should start. It is called Votergate, and it is a documentary about how the Fraud case came to be.... Petition of Redress of Grievances: http://www.givemeliberty.org/default.htm Canadian Lawsuit Against Their National Banks: http://www.freewebs.com/classaction/ Osborn F. Enready Last edited by Osborn F Enready; Dec 16, 2004 at 11:07 am.

Dec 16, 2004, 01:06 pm	#4 (permalink) (top)
PatrickHenry 9/11: Inside Job Location: Hawai'i, Big Island Posts: 10,455	We were robbed. If we can get no resolution to election fraud, the resistance to tyranny must begin. I recommend monetary resistance. Figure ways to avoid donating to the tyrannical regime. But protect yourself. There will be retaliation. Great film, Osborn. Thanks "Arms in the hands of the citizens may be used at individual discretion for the defense of the country, the overthrow of tyranny or private self-defense." -- John Adams

Dec 16, 2004, 01:16 pm	#5 (permalink) (top)
Osborn F Enready Principled Observer Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 13,907	For those who cannot view the link, I am totally confused as to why some can and some can't. I don't claim to be a computer guru, so bear with me here.... If the link above does not work, go to this site: http://www.ericblumrich.com/media.html The very top listed link, titled "Votergate" is the link I am trying to attach. You can access it directly this way from the above listed site by clicking on the picture, assuming you have a media viewer. Votergate is not an Eric Blumrich piece, just one that is accesible through his site to the best of my knowledge. I didn't want people who are familliar with Blumrichs "partisan approach" to be provoked not to see it based on the idea that it was his work. Petition of Redress of Grievances: http://www.givemeliberty.org/default.htm Canadian Lawsuit Against Their National Banks: http://www.freewebs.com/classaction/ Osborn F. Enready

Dec 16, 2004, 01:21 pm	#6 (permalink) (top)
Osborn F Enready Principled Observer Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 13,907	Rainbow said: Can you submit the data, please ? I say: Well, the data has been submitted several times in the "Fraud" thread started by Gr8fulDaniel. This video only helps to illustrate just how serious and viable the issue is, by showing with video proof the action/inaction of the parties accused, the events themselves, and other video documented events concerning the debate. In my opinion, this video is essential to understanding the depth and scope of this event. The fraud case cannot be downplayed or cast aside when confronted with video-evidence of this magnitude. I hope you all find a way to view this, and I look forward to debating the "anti-recount" activists that made themselves so prevalent in the "fraud" thread. May liberty and justice prevail. Petition of Redress of Grievances: http://www.givemeliberty.org/default.htm Canadian Lawsuit Against Their National Banks: http://www.freewebs.com/classaction/ Osborn F. Enready

Dec 16, 2004, 11:33 am	#3 (permalink) (top)
Rainbow Volcanic Erupter Posts: 3,250	I followed the link and : no video. Can you submit the data, please ?

Dec 16, 2004, 01:46 pm	#7 (permalink) (top)
PatrickHenry 9/11: Inside Job Location: Hawai'i, Big Island Posts: 10,455	You need the "Quicktime" plugin for your browser to view the video. "Arms in the hands of the citizens may be used at individual discretion for the defense of the country, the overthrow of tyranny or private self-defense." -- John Adams

Dec 16, 2004, 02:40 pm	#8 (permalink) (top)
Osborn F Enready Principled Observer Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 13,907	Pat said: You need the "Quicktime" plugin for your browser to view the video. I say: Thanks for clarifying that Pat, I forgot too. Petition of Redress of Grievances: http://www.givemeliberty.org/default.htm Canadian Lawsuit Against Their National Banks: http://www.freewebs.com/classaction/ Osborn F. Enready

Dec 16, 2004, 10:21 pm	#9 (permalink) (top)
OberonDOtherseid Logic Via Reality Posts: 653	Any half whit with powerpoint can put together a piece of crap propaganda like that. Are you kidding, thats all the proof you have? LMAO!!!! George Bush kicks ass and takes names in 2005!!

Dec 16, 2004, 10:43 pm	#10 (permalink) (top)
Osborn F Enready Principled Observer Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 13,907	Yea Oberon, thats it. We keep all the proof stored in a movie file on the internet, you busted us. Man, I hope the courts in Ohio don't see this, our whole case will be blown. Your role as a Bush cheerleader is becoming tiresome. Could you number your "witty" comments, so from now on we can avoid the one-liner issue and just stick to one number. You could post and just say "3", and we would know that you meant slam number three, from the "Oberon Library of put-downs, insults and attempts to discredit." It would minimize the time time reading, while still getting across the full insult you intended. It is all about efficiency Oberon, come on man, conserve. I thought you were a conservative? Petition of Redress of Grievances: http://www.givemeliberty.org/default.htm Canadian Lawsuit Against Their National Banks: http://www.freewebs.com/classaction/ Osborn F. Enready

Dec 16, 2004, 11:14 pm	#11 (permalink) (top)
OberonDOtherseid Logic Via Reality Posts: 653	I dont give two shits what is tiresome, since when does everybody have to see things your way anway, Osbo? Who gauranteed you everthing here would go just your way? It's a goddamned short powerpoint presentation filled with propaganda and conspiracy stats. What do you want, an Oscar? George Bush kicks ass and takes names in 2005!!

Dec 17, 2004, 01:23 am	#12 (permalink) (top)
Dieval Right of Center Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 3,007	What kind of topic is this? Someone makes a propaganda film, puts it on a MAC website and it's supposed to be some type of credible, debatable topic? "You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life." -- Winston Churchill

Dec 17, 2004, 02:12 am	#13 (permalink) (top)
Osborn F Enready Principled Observer Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 13,907	Well, if anyone cared to get back on topic, some of us are still here to debate. I hate to see a thread wasted because of derailing due to non-debate issues. Petition of Redress of Grievances: http://www.givemeliberty.org/default.htm Canadian Lawsuit Against Their National Banks: http://www.freewebs.com/classaction/ Osborn F. Enready

Dec 17, 2004, 12:27 pm	#15 (permalink) (top)
castille Citizen #21521 Posts: 2,599	I'm not even a Bush supporter, and the NAME of that site already puts me off. Hey I also read on a Geocities site that we are supposed to be descendents of an alien god called Zordon. Is this also true? I mean the guy made a .jpeg file of a drawing of Zordon, so it must be. Ideological loyalty is the act of giving your soul to a vague concept, to be manipulated by people smarter than you.

Dec 17, 2004, 03:20 pm	#16 (permalink) (top)
Lou Minotti BANNED (Multiple usernames after another ban) Posts: 1,337	Bev Harris has been documenting this since 2000. Sadly, Bush worshippers don't have a clue and if it's not on their radar screen, it's a "conspiracy theory". Just ignore the people that can't comment on this serious issue without strapping a tin foil hat on everybody. Let the people who worship government continue to dig their own graves. Patriots without emotional investments only past this point...