Note the title of the thread.Quote by: notthecheatr
CNN, MSNBC, PBS, NBC, ABC, CBSCan you name even a single mainstream progressive television network? I sure can't.
Note the title of the thread.
CNN, MSNBC, PBS, NBC, ABC, CBSCan you name even a single mainstream progressive television network? I sure can't.
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They don't know what evidence for intelligent design would look like, but they know such evidence has never been observed!
That wouldn't be racism, actually. Nor would referring to others as "unlike myself" because of their race, in a racial context. My comments encompassed socioeconomics, anyways, of which race is a part.
Hardly. You haven't given modern examples. None of the modern people you listed were racists, and I'm not sure that Helen Thomas is a Democrat either.The above is proof you don't even bother to read the posts of those you disagree with.
Sure. It's like saying that because I'm an atheist, I'm significantly unlike some leader of the religious right.
I think "liberalism" allows for a "racial context", if "racial context" means recognizing different skin colors merely as a matter of fact.
Grandpa h.
Post by post, building his arguments by smashing a couple of theirs -- for America.
Only, it wasn't just a statment of fact; it was a position that being liberal meant having compassion for those unlike you, as if simply being "unlike you" racially was in and of itself deserving of compassion.
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They don't know what evidence for intelligent design would look like, but they know such evidence has never been observed!
Context is important here. Technically, Iraqis are "unlike me," which is largely why I wanted to lift
sanctions against them; it was to avoid inter-group conflict, inspired in part by knowledge that some Americans simply don't care if Arabs, Iraqis or Muslims die. I wanted to distinguish myself from that sentiment. As a quirky consequence, I had to highlight a perceived difference between Iraqis and myself. We're different people facing different situations. That is just a satement of fact, not intended to put anyone down. If a group "unlike you" is somehow oppressed, it does indeed make sense to have more compassion for them -- if you are compassionate.
Being religious, you should be aware of how this matches Jesus' attitude in the Gospels (I am not religious, but the point is obvious).
Grandpa h.
Post by post, building his arguments by smashing a couple of theirs -- for America.
I"m not a Christian.
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They don't know what evidence for intelligent design would look like, but they know such evidence has never been observed!
The US 1956 election:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ollege1956.svg
The 1964 election:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ollege1964.svg
The fact is when the Democrat Party moved to establish civil rights the racists packed up and left for the Republican Party which didn't have as solid a line on the issue.
Society may be formed so as to exist without crime, without poverty, […] no obstacle whatsoever intervenes at this moment except ignorance to prevent such a state of society.
Robert Owen
If you honestly think in modern politics that the democrats are racist like the republicans you are blind. I will go turn on progressive news and I won't find racism unlike bill o'reily who is evident white supremacist, is he not republican?
It is my views that Democrats are fundamentally and overwhelmingly more racist than Republicans, in general, which is one of the reasons they are so quick to try and smear others with the term. But I don't think that fact is relevant to debates about ideas such as the best way to move forward in relation to the deficit, debt, and direction of the country. Because one is racist doesn't mean that all of their ideas or views are wrong.
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They don't know what evidence for intelligent design would look like, but they know such evidence has never been observed!
How does that make them racist? The fact that you seem to have a list on-hand of all the racist democrats seems to speak to an insecure position of a non-racist conservative ideology.
Conservatives inherently want to retain the traditional institutions, and systematized and publicly-accepted racism certainly falls under the practices of those very institutions. You have given a very weak and baseless argument, and it is a very well-known and well-accepted fact that republicans are vastly more racist and are demonstrably positively correlated values. There are scholars who believe that conservativism and racism are, in fact, the same thing.
I didn't say it makes them racist.
I didn't have it on-hand. It took about 10 minutes to find many samples on the internet.The fact that you seem to have a list on-hand of all the racist democrats seems to speak to an insecure position of a non-racist conservative ideology.
That's about as logical as saying that progressives advocate change from traditional institutions, so they would necessarily want to abolish the justice system, tear up the constitution, and get rid of the office of the President.Conservatives inherently want to retain the traditional institutions, and systematized and publicly-accepted racism certainly falls under the practices of those very institutions.
I'm sure it is well-known and well-accepted ...among liberals and progressives.You have given a very weak and baseless argument, and it is a very well-known and well-accepted fact that republicans are vastly more racist and are demonstrably positively correlated values.
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They don't know what evidence for intelligent design would look like, but they know such evidence has never been observed!
I have read your list before, this is not the first time you spewed your slander, then turned around and accused others of doing the same thing. Your list is irrelevant to the topic anyway, as it was the poster's contention that "party names had different meanings back then", thus you not only missed the entire point of the argument, but he pre-undermined YOUR entire argument. Everyone should note how much this suggests a severe lack of reading comprehension and logical thought process. Though seeing as you are supportive of a demonstrably racist party, that kind of thinking follows suit.
That's about as logical as saying that liberals want to move towards a clearly open and supportive ideology for all people, but that will somehow result in racism. Again, notice the inherently flawed logic. The past is the past, and it was systematically racist. If you support institutions from the past, then it logically follows that subscribers to that ideology would more likely to adhere to racist principles of the past. You present an incredibly weak argument from someone who thinks it is so evident that liberals are more racist.That's about as logical as saying that progressives advocate change from traditional institutions, so they would necessarily want to abolish the justice system, tear up the constitution, and get rid of the office of the President.
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