How To Make it With Chicks in Africa

Instead of roses, dinner, and a movie, the savage Black Africans simply rape them and give them HIV/AIDS.

Amnesty: Violence Against Women Is Spreading AIDS Wed Nov 24, 4:06 AM ET Health - Reuters LONDON (Reuters) - A worldwide "pandemic" of violence against women is fueling the spread of HIV (news - web sites)/AIDS (news - web sites), human rights group Amnesty International said Wednesday. Mass rape and sexual violence in conflicts, coupled with collapsing health systems in countries like the Democratic Republic of Congo, put women at much greater risk of contracting HIV, it said in a report released a day after the United Nations said nearly half of adults with HIV are women. "The increasing spread of HIV/AIDS among women and sexual violence are interlinked," Amnesty said. "If governments are serious in their fight against the disease they also have to deal with another worldwide 'pandemic': violence against women." "Traditional practices such as genital mutilation, early marriage and the practice of newly bereaved widows being 'inherited' by other male relatives also increased women's exposure to the virus," it added.

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Does anyone with any common sense think for a second that sending tens of billions of dollars, as the liberal George Bush has indicated he would, to these primitive, savage, anarchic, ignorant African countries will change their behavioral problems?

[PatrickHenry]

Africa has problems with primitivism. Noted. Any proposed solutions?

[Texans 4 Furors]

Quite a hot topic. Keep in mind our relatives started the raping and pillaging in their efforts to enslave the globe. I agree there are some heavy issues associated with this topic but they aren't ALL ignorant savages. I don't have an answer but I like that you call Bush a liberal. A spade is a spade, isn't it. Some people also believe he's a Christian. Isn't that insane?

[bullshitdetector]

I don't believe he is a Christian, and he does have liberal tendancies....it's just that liberals squeel when being associated with him.

[kharmajunkie]

What liberal tendencies does Pres. Bush posess? And whether
or not he's a Christian is irrelevant and not your judgement to make; according to the polls a majority of the Christian vote put him in office.

[Texans 4 Furors]

What liberal tendencies does Pres. Bush posess?

UNESCO
Abortion on demand
FTAA
NAFTA
GATT
Gun control
Patriot Act
"Reichland" Security
Nation Building
"New Freedom" Initiative
Enemy Combatant Designation for America Citizens
I could go on forever....


And anyone who frequents Bohemian Grove (with fellow liberals), executes retards, and blocks FBI agents from investigating the Bin Laden family isn't a Christian.

[kharmajunkie]

Originally posted by Texans 4 Furors, UNESCO Abortion on demand FTAA NAFTA GATT Gun control Patriot Act "Reichland" Security Nation Building "New Freedom" Initiative Enemy Combatant Designation for America Citizens I could go on forever.... And anyone who frequents Bohemian Grove (with fellow liberals), executes retards, and blocks FBI agents from investigating the Bin Laden family isn't a Christian.

Since when is GW pro-choice? Since when is he for gun control?
How is the patriot act "liberal" (or conservative for that matter)? The same with a few of those other issues like "reichland" security (I like that) I don't see them as either liberal or conservative really; just as bad ideas. (part of that comes from a lack of knowledge on some of these issues)
And I don't judge a man's faith, then I'm just becoming what I hate. That being said, I wouldn't classify GW as a liberal; I call him a tax and spend theocrat and a whore for the pharmacutical and oil industry.

[Texans 4 Furors]

100% agreement in your assessment of GWB. These people border on despotism. I simply call him a liberal because there is virtually no difference between the two anymore. BUT:

Guns? Do you know how many gun control laws have passed since 2000? Bush not only said he would sign the "scary looking" weapons ban but THAT HE SUPPORTED IT. Luckily, REAL conservatives stepped up and did something.

Pro-choice? He would never come out and just say it but he IS NOT against abortion. His father is a eugenics freak and we're supposed to think he cares about a fetus.

The Patriot Act? Virtually mirrors Clinton's actions after OKC. In fact the Patriot Act was written and developed in large part by democrats.

I also forgot to mention immigration and relations with China. When Clinton buddied up to the Chi-Coms, all hell broke loose. When Bush licks their butts on the White House lawn he's all of the sudden a hero. Bollocks....

[kharmajunkie]

I didn't know he was for assault weapons ban. I'm glad congress stood up to him on that; they need to make that a habit.
As far as his abortion stance, didn't he say that he's pro-life but
felt that at this time the Country wasn't ready to do anything to Roe v Wade? I remember him saying something like that in one of the debates, which is a brilliant way to straddle the issue.

[bishop]

gotta love how everyone but us are savages.. savages come in different shapes and sizes snouter. us pompous folk here in the northeast look at rednecks as being savages.

how prevalent is female circumcision?

and, i don't know what good giving africa billions of dollars will do at this point. what we should've done was given them condoms decades ago, but thanks to jesse helms and his zealout friends, we didn't because they couldn't condone such blasphemy.

cultural problems aside, usually you see high incidents of rape when you have areas/regions that are in poverty and that have little rule of law.

[Texans 4 Furors]

what we should've done was given them condoms decades ago

As well as not played with race specific immunodeficiency bioweapons. But seriously, a Nobel Prize winner came out recently and proclaimed that AIDS was man-made. What do you think? Even the guy that discovered it says that there is some shadiness surrounding it's origins. You know that was one of Hitler's goals: to tweak some virus into killing all non WASPs.

[bishop]

actually, that theory's been going strong for about 30 years now. i bought this book several years ago, and it gives a really in-depth analysis of aids.

the level of research put into that book is astounding.. about 60 pages worth of citations. the guy dug up everything from congressional hearings with the military, talking about their interest in developing various immuno-specific weapons, to studies done on the virus showing strong similarities with other immuno-deficient diseases (there is a disease that occurs in bovine that is very similar to hiv).

there is a lot of credibility to the theory that aids didn't simply come from a single monkey and spread so rapidly across the globe.

[Lava]

Originally posted by bishop, and, i don't know what good giving africa billions of dollars will do at this point. what we should've done was given them condoms decades ago, but thanks to jesse helms and his zealout friends, we didn't because they couldn't condone such blasphemy.

Solution? IMO it lies with the government there, it is thoroughly corrupt. The only possible solution is the same as GWB is doing in Iraq, remove and destroy the government, impose interim government, then open up elections.

When you have a government that actually gives a damn about its people, these problems will be tackled properly.

Theres no use giving them anything, as the people wont get it. Give them condoms and the government will just sell them abroad.


Lava

[OberonDOtherseid]

Originally posted by kharmajunkie, And whether or not he's a Christian is irrelevant and not your judgement to make; according to the polls a majority of the Christian vote put him in office.

I didn't think he as a christian either, is that a sin? The majority of blacks could vote on him too, that hardly makes him black, or does it?

he's not a liberal, he's a neo-conservative republican. he has the admiration of the christian right because he talks big on god and oppressing abortion and cultural change.

why blacks would vote for him is beyond me.

Telegraph newspaper online

Evangelical outrage over Bush's 'same God' remark
By David Rennie in Washington
(Filed: 24/11/2003)

"Evangelical American Christians have turned on President George W Bush after he said, at a press conference with Tony Blair, that Christians and Muslims worshipped the same God.

Mr Blair side-stepped the invitation to discuss his religious faith in public but Mr Bush followed his practice and declared: "I believe we worship the same God."

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Part of the problem is that Africa (Asia as well) has stronger subtypes of the virus. C and E are quite nasty compared to our relatively benign strains here in the US.

[PatrickHenry]

Originally posted by bishop, the level of research put into that book is astounding.. there is a lot of credibility to the theory that aids didn't simply come from a single monkey and spread so rapidly across the globe.

I read Horowitz's book, too. bishop, it is one of the prime movers that pushed me over the edge from skeptic to full blown Washington basher.

Africa is rich in resources, but unfortunately for the eugenics elite, it has millions of black people. AIDS is conceivably doing them a service by reducing populations of those they do not care to suport.

If the virus can ever be fully traced to Ft. Detrick and documented so, the US establishment will need to be skinned in international court. Horowitz got about halfway there with Emerging Viruses

[Technosoul]

If Bush were just another guy like me, posting stuff here at this forum, the majority of you would be all over his case, Why, because like me he comes of with far out stuff idea-wise that is just not the norm in past poltical environments.

Now a lot of the money in that AIDs package would go simply for educating the people of Africa. That educational program is designed to address the very problems mentioned in the O.P. message. It teaches the importance of marrage for sex and the stoppage of random sex and impulsive sex (aka rape) and of course - prositution. The other part of the money would be for drugs or medical supplies. The educational program has already been proven effective in one country when it was introduced there by Cuba. (relative to reduction in the spread of AIDS in that country).

However you must also be aware of the fine print which some of the countries in Africa have rejected already. In order to get the AIDs program they must also agree accept our genetic foods - which many nations have banned in their countries.

The ideas of genetic foods has been promoted as a good way to end starvation in the world, especially in 3rd world locations. However these foods have not been tested for possible side effect via any type of "long term study" and Africans do not wish to be used as the "subjects" for that testing. Due to fears and a lack of trust in that farming technology.

Plus there is a push by our government to introduce our genetic (and seedless) crops world wide because we own the copyrights to that genetic product, and once natual foods can be replaced with gentic versions we could cash in on those copyright laws (big time in the future). We also would own the companies that produce all the seeds for seedless crops.

So it is not all just for free, it has a built-in payback program noted in the small print. Which small print is not mentioned much by our American poltical speakers.

Technosoul.

[kharmajunkie]

Originally posted by OberonDOtherseid,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='0' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (OberonDOtherseid,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-kharmajunkie, And whether or not he's a Christian is irrelevant and not your judgement to make; according to the polls a majority of the Christian vote put him in office.

I didn't think he as a christian either, is that a sin? The majority of blacks could vote on him too, that hardly makes him black, or does it?[/b][/quote]


Obe, if you're looking for an argument with me could you please lay it out
a little more clearly for me? Your last post makes you sound like you're writing in between tequilla shots at a cyberbar. Either that or quit trying to spin what I say into a meaning that I never intended. I've been putting up with you and BSD picking these lameass fights with me based on your interpretations of what I post but it's getting old.

My point, if you can't figure it out, is that it's not my place to judge Mr. Bush's faith, or lack thereof. That's either your job or that of hypocritical
Christian leaders like Dobson and Falwell but not mine. I was pointing out that he pulled the Christian vote. So don't get self righteous with me and play martyr with two-bit, passive aggresive comments like "is that a sin?"

You and your neocon brethren's debate tactics are boring, transparent and besides I watch FOX news too (know thy enemy) so bring an original
thought and not your Hannitized talking points to the sandbox tomorrow.
Happy Thanksgiving!!!

[Nono]

Instead of roses, dinner, and a movie, the savage Black Africans simply rape them and give them HIV/AIDS.

Snout, your touching concern about the welfare of African women is truly moving.

Your real agenda is, of course, the propagation of cheap racism, and the rape thing is your vehicle.

I'm not going to leap to Africa's defence -- much of it is Horrorville for sure.
But several things should be borne in mind.

Just a few generations ago most Africans were still living in small groups in the bush. Then along come these Europeans who had divided the place up among themselves in 1878 at a cosy little conference in Berlin, drawing arbitrary lines on a map. Africans found themselves stuck in colonies -- and later countries -- with borders that make no sense in terms of economics or ethnic affiliation. (Just look at the emotions aroused by the thread on secession to Canada, then multiply by 100.) All this was a sure-fire recipe for endless trouble.

Then there's the World Bank, the IMF and neo-liberal ideology to make it as hard as possible for African countries to feed themselves.

No doubt Africa would be a place of great misery without all this. But it's too easy to stand back and gloat, as you do.

And by the way, in my book a bunch of redneck yahoos who yowl for ever more bombs on more people's heads are utter savages -- no question at all.