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Old Nov 11, 2004, 01:53 am   #1 (permalink) (top)
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While the left wing, paranoid anarchists in the West handwring about mythical "racism," real racism is happening around the world and the people targeted are not what the leftists would like to admit.

What is the destiny of the earth if the savage barbarity of more primitive people is tolerated as liberal, left wingers advocate?

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IVORY COAST
Europeans evacuated from I Coast
Posted Thu, 11 Nov 2004

European nations led by France were evacuating their nationals from Ivory Coast on Thursday, where an explosion of anti-French violence has made even long-time residents rush to pack their bags.

Paris' Charles de Gaulle airport welcomed the first Boeing 777 on Wednesday evening packed with 270 people, mostly families with children and the more seriously injured, officials said.

Two other planes took off on Wednesday bound for Paris with another 607 mostly French passengers, said a spokesperson for the French military force in Ivory Coast, Major Jacques Combarieu.

A fourth airliner was expected to take off on Thursday morning with 512 passengers, he said.

A Spanish air force Boeing 707 left with 120 people, including 45 Spaniards and 11 Portuguese, the Spanish foreign ministry said...

Widespread looting and vandalism was reported across Abidjan, once one of Africa's most sophisticated and modern cities and now a battered symbol of the two years of conflict that have plundered its economy and destabilised its political fortunes....

French planes then wiped out Ivory Coast's small air force, sending simmering hatred of France soaring and urging tens of thousands of people into the streets.
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Wow the Frogs kicked some ass! Actually the air force they destroyed consisted of 2 jets and a couple of helicoptors.
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Old Nov 11, 2004, 11:25 am   #2 (permalink) (top)
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What is the destiny of the earth if the savage barbarity of more primitive people is tolerated as liberal, left wingers advocate?
you so much of a moron that whenever anything messy happens, you'll find a way to demonize liberals.

i didn't see republicans wanting to do shit in rwanda/uganda.. just like they didn't want to do shit in haiti. but, i figure you didn't know that, so i'll let you digest those little factoids for now.

fyi - things like the geneva convention, anti-child worker laws, i.e. things that promote human rights, were liberal creations.


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Old Nov 11, 2004, 11:47 am   #3 (permalink) (top)
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Bishop, that is not true, the Republicans turned an equal blind eye to it for years, as they should. We are not the government of Africa, therefore we are not their police force.

It is a travesty, and a shame. But we are not the image makers of humankind, nor is my government responsible to police the world.

Democrats and Republicans are the same color, of different shades, and that color is shit brown. They are both globalist parties who only seek to gain financing and backing when it suits them, and leave the ones that don't swinging in the wind.

Hey Snouter, do you have a clue as to how many nation have U.S. troops deployed in some form? Do ya?

Give it a stab, and I will correct you if your wrong.


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Old Nov 11, 2004, 06:31 pm   #4 (permalink) (top)
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you read too much into my post and inserted thoughts that were not mine.

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Bishop, that is not true, the Republicans turned an equal blind eye to it for years, as they should. We are not the government of Africa, therefore we are not their police force.
i said that republicans ignored the problem. and, i didn't advocate that we should be doing something in my post.

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It is a travesty, and a shame. But we are not the image makers of humankind, nor is my government responsible to police the world.
again, my post didn't advocate doing anything.


snouter's post was aimed at painting liberals as being sympathetic to people who practice genocide. my response highlighted that republicans have a solid record of not giving a damn. and if i toss in regimes like pinochet, saddam and apartheid, it's clear that the republicans have absolutely no moral highground to stand on.


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Old Nov 17, 2004, 09:20 pm   #5 (permalink) (top)
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Well nobody has really given a shit about what happens in Africa. When something blows up in Africa, the West says "those Africans have been killing each other since 1AD".

What people don't realise is that the Africans didn't actually start hating each other until colonialism.

For example, in Rwanda, we have the Hutu and Tutsi "races". They lived in general harmony for a thousand or so years, until Belgium came and invaded them. The Belgians, obssessed with race theories, dictated that the Tutsi race was superior, and start promoting racial violence and hatred across the board.

Then after Rwandan independence, the Belgians and French began to support the notion of Hutu superiority. And from the 1950s, tensions began to grow, until the extermination of 1 million Tutsis in 1994.


Africa is the shitting hole for the West. Everyone likes to take a dump in it, then blame the Africans for the mess.


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Old Nov 18, 2004, 08:08 am   #6 (permalink) (top)
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For example, in Rwanda, we have the Hutu and Tutsi "races". They lived in general harmony for a thousand or so years, until Belgium came and invaded them. The Belgians, obssessed with race theories, dictated that the Tutsi race was superior, and start promoting racial violence and hatred across the board.
WTF? Belgium didn't place the minority ethnic group in power for reasons of racial superiority. They did it for the same reasons all colonial powers did similar things; divide and conquer. The ethnic groups were so busy hating each other they could bear, even like having the colonial government there as overlord so they could arbitrate the conflict. It's a tactic replicated by all imperial powers.


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Old Nov 18, 2004, 08:11 am   #7 (permalink) (top)
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you so much of a moron that whenever anything messy happens, you'll find a way to demonize liberals.

i didn't see republicans wanting to do shit in rwanda/uganda.. just like they didn't want to do shit in haiti. but, i figure you didn't know that, so i'll let you digest those little factoids for now.



Why should the republicans want to do anything when all you are going to do is piss and moan about it when they do?
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Old Nov 18, 2004, 08:26 am   #8 (permalink) (top)
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Yeah. Yes, white Europeans have just been trampled on the last few hundred years. Those damn imperialistic Africans, taking over France like that!!!
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Old Nov 20, 2004, 12:23 am   #9 (permalink) (top)
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Both Bush and lately Blair have expressed keen interest in helping Aftica. Last year Bush pledged billions to erradicate AIDS specifically in Africa, Powell visited more of these countries than any other SoS. The Europeans have that past colonial experience which cuts both ways; they are patrons who have their doors opened, and they are the despised foreigner source of all that ails them.


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Old Nov 20, 2004, 12:36 am   #10 (permalink) (top)
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Now what would make them want to attack those nice rich white folks in those big houses?
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Old Nov 20, 2004, 10:24 pm   #11 (permalink) (top)
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WTF? Belgium didn't place the minority ethnic group in power for reasons of racial superiority. They did it for the same reasons all colonial powers did similar things; divide and conquer.
That's only one of the reasons. Race theory was very big in Europe during the 1800s - the first Europeans in Rwanda were racial theorists. Belgian guys armed with strings and rulers, measuring the negro heads to work out which African race was superior ("superior" meaning bearing similarities to white men).

The Tutsis, of course, were seen to be more European because they were taller and lighter. Thus they became the "superior race" while the short stumpy Hutu race became the "inferiors".

It wasn't until the 1950s that Belgium decided the Hutus were the master race of Rwanda, and the Tutsis were inferior. So the Hutus began attacking the Tutsi race for the next 40 years, resulting in the 1 million genocide in '94.


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