FRAUD!

[gr8fuldaniel]

Diebold is having trouble with simple addition again:

Anchorage Daily News State Rebuffs Raw Vote Demand STANDOFF: Democrats want 2004 base election data; machine firm is playing coy. By LISA DEMER Anchorage Daily News Published: January 24, 2006 Last Modified: January 24, 2006 at 02:26 AM The state Division of Elections has refused to turn over its electronic voting files to the Democrats, arguing that the data format belongs to a private company and can't be made public. The Alaska Democratic Party says the information is a public record essential for verifying the accuracy of the 2004 general election and must be provided. <snip> "The results from the 2004 election in Alaska just plain look squirrelly," March said. For instance, district-by-district vote totals add up to 292,267 votes for President Bush, but his official total was only 190,889.

:eek: What if a Diebold ATM made this kind of mistake. That never happens though, does it? A Diebold adding machine made a 100,000 vote mistake. What if a vote were a dollar?

We have enough proof, they cannot be trusted with our votes nor our democracy.

How about if these machines were used every day of the year for counting money instead of votes. If you were president of a bank you would be run out of town on a rail, for buying these machines.

BRAD BLOG does a great job of laying this story out. He also got ahold of the ( letter in Word Format) Excerpt;

The state Division of Elections has refused to turn over its electronic voting files to the Democrats, arguing that the data format belongs to a private company and can't be made public. The Alaska Democratic Party says the information is a public record essential for verifying the accuracy of the 2004 general election and must be provided. The official vote results from the last general election are riddled with discrepancies and impossible for the public to make sense of, the Democrats said Monday. A detailed analysis of the underlying data could answer lingering questions about an election many thought was over more than a year ago, they say. ... At this point, it's impossible to say whether the correct candidates were declared the winner in all Alaska races from 2004, [Democratic spokeswoman, Kay] Brown said. The private contractor hired to provide Alaska's electronic voting machines is Diebold Election Systems. ... Diebold told the state it owns the format, which can't be released because it's a company secret. ... [u]nder the state's contract with Diebold, that cannot be released, Brewster said.

Now it looks like they are saying once we put our vote into THEIR machine, they own it! That just aint right.

[SteveA]

The state Division of Elections has refused to turn over its electronic voting files to the Democrats, arguing that the data format belongs to a private company and can't be made public.

In California, people have a right to be able to witness the voting process. Sorry, if they can't can't release a proprietary format to public scrutiny then the machines aren't compatible with our voting system. I assume Alaskans have the same right to be able to verify the voting process.

In New Hampshire as far as I know they still use 100% paper (maybe Bush's HAVA idea has forced some electronic voting into the area).

Anyway, NH has had virtually no growth in state level government for the last 3 years and state representatives still earn either $100/yr or $200/yr compensation. Paper ballots rule!!!

I'm a programmer and software engineer (not to mention other things ) and I'd never trust even an embedded system. Voting is just too important a process in our country to leave up to a few etherial bits of non-reproducible information to determine. How can you truly verify the totals are correct without even a receipt and even with a receipt, how can you know they didn't simply add bogus votes to the tally? At least if someone is going to cheat with the paper system, there's some physical evidence that can be analyzed (like a guy going madly through a stack of ballots poking holes )

[Scribbler1]

Didn't the head of Diebold say he was going to deliver Ohio to the Republicans? I figure a hundred years ago just SAYING that would get you jailed, or hung.

Stick a fork in this form of dovernment. It's done.

[gr8fuldaniel]

Quote by: Scribbler1 Didn't the head of Diebold say he was going to deliver Ohio to the Republicans?

Yep, and he delivered.

This is a fascinating article about one way a hack is done on a Diebold machine. These machines are designed to be hacked on purpose. Its in the code. Have you heard of the "Hursti Hack"? This story was written by an eyewitness:

counterpunch January 23, 2006 "I Saw It Hacked" Diebold in Florida By SUSAN PYNCHON I was one of ten people present at the "hack" of the Leon County, Florida voting system, which took place on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 around 4:30 in the afternoon at the county elections warehouse. Leon County's voting system is the Diebold Accu-Vote OS 1.94w (optical scan). The Leon County Supervisor of Elections, Ion Sancho, authorized a "test" of his Diebold voting system to see if election results could be altered using only a memory card. Harri Hursti, a computer programmer from Finland facilitated the test and it has come to be known as the "Harri Hursti Hack." More....

[jose]

http://currentera.com/blog/?p=495

[Logjam]

Bush was elected and the results were certified, so whether or not it you agree with the results of the election is a moot question.

I suggest that you work to get over it.

On a larger note, however; now that the Democrats believe that the election was illegal they think that they have license to cheat in elections all that they want. Turn about, in their minds, is fair play. That's terrible. Everybody knows that unions cheat like crazy. Jack Kennedy ever admitted it; jokingly!!

In Washington State the Republican won the governorship by about 139 votes. This triggered a recount. Democrat activitists raided a homeless shelter and gave the drunks there absentee ballets. Seven hundred people had the same address in the recount......the address was the local homeless shelter.

After the recount the Democrats won by something like 500. The Repubs sued. It was proven in court that the Democats had stuffed the ballet box. However the election was not overturned. The judge said that it could not be proven which candidate the bums had voted for.

Democrats cheat in elections. They will continue to do so.

George Bush was legally elected in both elections.

[jose]

Thanks for watching the video
i´m sure George Bush will also be legally elected in 2008

[gr8fuldaniel]

I am sure there wont be any need for elections in 2008. Cheney will be in charge by then. Elections will be declared a threat to the power structure. A national emergency, staged or not, is all that is required to call off an election

[gr8fuldaniel]

More Votes than Voters doesnt matter on NATIONAL issues.


Ohio is cherry-picking which issues/candidates to RE-VOTE. The whole election system is a scam, but the corruption in Ohio which gave us a corrupt president, is reserving the right to which frauds to do anything about. (Kenneth Blackwell and his seed be damned to hell). I found this article posted on Brad Blog, which includes a snippet from the Middletown Journal (I couldnt copy/paste from the Middletown Journal article myself)

LINK

Revote in Ohio After More Votes Than Voters Recorded on Diebold Touch-Screen Voting Machines! Court Orders Special Re-Vote Tomorrow After 'Failure' of Montgomery County, OH's New AccuVote TSX Machines! County one of forty-four to implement new touch-screen machines for last November's election resulting in inexplicable results... Diebold Inc., one of America's largest voting machine companies, likes to claim that there's never been any substantial problem with their touch-screen machines in any election in America. You may not be surprised to hear that claim is patently untrue. As reported in yesterday's Middletown Journal, a special "re-vote" will be held tomorrow in Montgomery county, OH on an issue where last November's election results were set aside due to more votes being cast on Diebold's AccuVote TSX touch-screen voting machines than there were actually registered voters who voted! CARLISLE — Voters will have another opportunity Tuesday in a special election to decide whether the city should have a combined fire and emergency medical services department with 24-hour staffing or continue as a volunteer fire department. This is the second time in three months this levy has been before voters. Last November, the levy was narrowly defeated. But those election results were set aside due to voting irregularities from the new electronic touch screen voting machines. More votes were cast than there were registered voters in the city’s Montgomery County precinct. The city contested the results, and the Montgomery County Common Pleas Court ordered Tuesday’s special election at Montgomery County’s cost. Montgomery County is one of 41 counties in Ohio to have added new Diebold AccuVote TSX touch-screen (DRE) voting machines for last November's election. In that election, remarkable and virtually inexplicable results occurred across the state in regard to four Election Reform initiatives on the ballot, all of which were predicted to pass by large margins in a historically accurate poll released just prior to Election Day. We wrote about the "staggeringly impossible" results of that election back in November. Those results have still not been explained, despite 44 of 88 counties in the Buckeye State using all-new touch-screen voting machines for the first time in that election. Blogged by Brad on 2/6/2006 @ 11:11am PT...

So let me get this straight: The Ohio election system which is not adequate to count votes for local issues, is perfectly fine for deciding who will rule our nation? These Diebold voting machines need to be destroyed. The judgement for a recount in this one county can be deemed a precident, yes? Blackwell who approved the machines and certified a vastly corrupt vote should also be destroyed.

[PatrickHenry]

Let's see, Daniel. If Ohio was not Bush's in November 2004, the Oval Office would have gone to another candidate, wouldn't it?

[gr8fuldaniel]

Quote by: PatrickHenry Let's see, Daniel. If Ohio was not Bush's in November 2004, the Oval Office would have gone to another candidate, wouldn't it?

Correct.

[gr8fuldaniel]

Stealing California:

Brad Blog HACKABLE DIEBOLD MACHINES COVERTLY RE-CERTIFIED IN CALIFORNIA BY SOS! State Senator Outraged, Says Machines, Certification Violates State, Federal Standards and Law... SoS' Own Report Agrees! McPherson Waits Until 5pm Friday of Holiday Weekend to Announce! [UPDATED WITH MUCH MORE INFO...]

BBV THE RED FLAG: Today California Secretary of State Bruce McPherson certified Diebold's entire product line, including the TSx touchscreen machine with its "toilet paper roll" paper trail -- you know, the design that removes the privacy of your vote. He also approved the Diebold optical scan system, knowing it can be hacked, and he approved the Diebold GEMS system, knowing it can be hacked, and all accessories and accompaniments. The system was approved despite 100 percent public opposition and despite not having the ITA report back. (Welcome to Black Box America.) YOU'RE THE BULL: It's time for you and everyone you know to make phone calls for subpoenas! We are seeing a pattern of obfuscation and cover-up. YOUR help will be needed to get to the bottom of it all. The Feb. 16 California Senate Elections Committee hearing on certification was hit with no-shows by ALL FOUR major vendors (Diebold, ES&S, Sequoia and Hart Intercivic). Representatives from Wyle and Ciber testing labs declined to appear. Both the technical staff and the PR flaks for the California Secretary of State's office blew off the Senate Elections Committee. The Secretary of State's office is now "legally late" on a series of public records requests made by California Elections Committee Chairperson Debra Bowen. This lack of response to a California Senate hearing is a potential disaster in the making. With no election insiders willing to answer questions, the vendors as a whole (and Diebold in particular) along with the now-infamously inadequate test labs start looking like they're coated with non-stick Teflon. It's not nice to blow off democracy, and we are asking you, the taxpayer, to refuse to allow testers and vendors to thumb their noses at the California Senate. It's your tax dollars that are paying for this equipment, which you have asked NOT to be purchased at all. <snip> YOUR PHONE CALLS ARE NEEDED to Rules Committee members Urge support for subpoenas of election industry and certification insiders who didn't testify on the 16th. Contact list: Senator Don Perata (Chair) (916) 651-4009 Senator Jim Battin (Vice-Chair) (916) 651-4037 Senator Roy Ashburn (916) 651-4018 Senator Debra Bowen (916) 651-4028 (Yes, call her too so she can log the support calls, it's important since it allows her to back her position from the grassroots.) Senator Gilbert Cedillo (916) 651-4022 Black Box Voting Inc. seldom puts out calls for grassroots pressure, as we feel this powerful tool can be diluted with over-use. But now is the time. How to deliver your message Be quick, be polite, be professional. Here's your message: ask for "Rules Committee support for subpoenas of election industry and certification insiders who won't otherwise inform the Elections Committee as to what's going on". More...

[gr8fuldaniel]

I am going to file one of these:

Voter Complaint Form -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This complaint form should be used if you have information that a violation of the California Elections Code has occurred. Include dates, times and specific occurrences of any alleged violations which you have personal knowledge of. Mail this form to the address provided. Voter Complaint Form (pdf)

I am going to also call the Election Fraud Hotline Monday morning to report the Secretary of State Bruce McPherson for election fraud. Certifying of hackable Diebold systems is an act of fraud on the highest order.

Voter Fraud Hotline: (800) 345-8683 / (800) 345-VOTE

[Keith Hamburger]

Quote by: gr8fuldaniel I am going to file one of these:I am going to also call the Election Fraud Hotline Monday morning to report the Secretary of State Bruce McPherson for election fraud. Certifying of hackable Diebold systems is an act of fraud on the highest order. Voter Fraud Hotline: (800) 345-8683 / (800) 345-VOTE

Good luck on that, considering that the SOS runs the hotline. (http://www.ss.ca.gov/elections/elections_p.htm) I'm sure they'll jump right on investigating themselves.

However, that is how democracy works, I guess. We have four boxes of defense in this country, the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box and the ammo box. Given how the mass media has taken over the first, fraud has destroyed the second and third, we're getting close to the fourth.

But, California has limited the fourth, hasn't it? What do you guys have left to defend your freedoms?

Keith

[gr8fuldaniel]

Quote by: Kieth Good luck on that, considering that the SOS runs the hotline.

I am aware of that. I want him to know how I feel about it. California has 55 Electoral votes. If those 55 votes swung 180 degrees to the wrong color, they wouldnt need to hack Florida AND Ohio.
CA has 55 electoral votes whereas Ohio and Florida combined only equal 47. California would be a jackpot. And an 8 year old kid could do it. With the GEMS software you dont have to cheat on the actual ballots and poll stations. A hack can just fix the results at the central tabulator by switching the candidates. It would be a lot cleaner than Ohios bungled fraud where you had OVERCOUNTS all over the place. And disenfranchisements. And registration scams.

If you want, you can download and "hack" the GEMS software yourself HERE:

This version is still widely in use throughout the United States. You can install this and practice using the Diebold GEMS tabulator yourself. (This is not the newest version, but was used for millions of votes in the Nov. 2004 presidential election, and will be used in many places for the Nov. 8, 2005 elections.) The default password is GEMSUSER. http://bbvdocs.org/diebold/diebold-t...IS-1-17-17.ZIP (Large -- allow time to download. Compressed zip file, 18 562 KB) ------------------------------------------------------------------ What is the password to unpack it? I can't seem to get it to work. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Bev Harris Board Administrator Username: Admin Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 05:13 pm: Sorry about that! Apparently I uploaded the passworded version. Password to unzip is akdn2ieh01dnm After you install, password to use the program is GEMSUSER. The first password was found in the Diebold memos, the second in the GEMS user manual.

Quote by: Kieth But, California has limited the fourth, hasn't it? What do you guys have left to defend your freedoms?

What do you mean by limit? We have guns. Unfortunately if the Executive branch decides to start grabbing guns "for our own protection" that would be done not just state by state. We have gun registration and background checks and a 10 day cooling off period to reduce "heat of passion" crimes. Machine guns are illegal, which I dont think is overly oppressive. We have some serious gang problems in densely populated areas, if the gangbangers have fully automatics there will be a lot more bystanders shot. I think there SHOULD be some limits when it comes to guns and public safety. Dont you?

Edit to add:
This isnt an invitation to gun nuts to completely derail the topic, a simple yes or no will suffice. I hope.

[Keith Hamburger]

Quote by: gr8fuldaniel I am aware of that. I want him to know how I feel about it. California has 55 Electoral votes. If those 55 votes swung 180 degrees to the wrong color, they wouldnt need to hack Florida AND Ohio. CA has 55 electoral votes whereas Ohio and Florida combined only equal 47. California would be a jackpot. And an 8 year old kid could do it. With the GEMS software you dont have to cheat on the actual ballots and poll stations. A hack can just fix the results at the central tabulator by switching the candidates. It would be a lot cleaner than Ohios bungled fraud where you had OVERCOUNTS all over the place. And disenfranchisements. And registration scams. If you want, you can download and "hack" the GEMS software yourself HERE: What do you mean by limit? We have guns. Unfortunately if the Executive branch decides to start grabbing guns "for our own protection" that would be done not just state by state. We have gun registration and background checks and a 10 day cooling off period to reduce "heat of passion" crimes. Machine guns are illegal, which I dont think is overly oppressive. We have some serious gang problems in densely populated areas, if the gangbangers have fully automatics there will be a lot more bystanders shot. I think there SHOULD be some limits when it comes to guns and public safety. Dont you? Edit to add: This isnt an invitation to gun nuts to completely derail the topic, a simple yes or no will suffice. I hope.

Actually, I started a new thread earlier today that is somewhat related to the question on gun restrictions. Perhaps we should go there since everyone seems to be ignoring it.

I know I am persuasive but to kill so many threads is ridiculous.

Keith

[PatrickHenry]

http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publ...icle_589.shtml

Writer after writer keeps talking about how we are just going to march into the polls come November and vote the monsters out. If only that were true. The system is rigged, folks. Just like oil and water, computers and voting don't mix. And that includes touch screens, optically-scanned ballots, even punch cards that are tabulated by computers. Worse, the voting equipment is in the hands of partisan private firms and they deny you the right to see the code, claiming it is proprietary information. Adding so-called "verifiable" paper receipts to touch screens would be meaningless, because a handful of scumbags still can change the results just enough to give their candidates a win without triggering a hand recount. Is this so hard to understand? It must be, because we, Bev Harris, Lynn Landes Bob Fitrakis and others have been screaming about this elephant in the room for nearly six years.

I wonder if Americans really care that the election system is fraudulent, and that we are living in a fake republic where our votes are just the raw material for the Empire's Smokescreen.

Elections, for most people, used to be a relatively simple thing. They took a paper ballot into a voting booth and penciled an X next to the names of the candidates they favored. The paper ballot was then dropped into a locked box. At the end of the voting day, the box was opened and the votes were counted one by one. Most states even allowed the public to witness the counting. Sure, it was slow and, depending on the length of a ballot, the election board workers tended to gripe. For the voters, though, election nights used to be filled with anticipation and excitement as the results trickled in. So the question comes down to do we want accurate and honest vote counts or fast and crooked vote counts? If it's fast and crooked, stay with easily rigged computers. If it is accurate and honest, demand a return to paper ballots, which make it much harder to steal a statewide, congressional or presidential election.

[gr8fuldaniel]

Heres a great article by Greg Palast.

Stealing Mexico Friday, June 30 — GEORGE Bush’s operatives have plans to jigger with the upcoming elections. I’m not talking about the November ‘06 vote in the USA (though they have plans for that, too). I’m talking about the election this Sunday in Mexico for their Presidency. It begins with an FBI document marked, “Counterterrorism” and “Foreign Intelligence Collection” and “Secret.” Date: “9/17/2001,” six days after the attack on the World Trade towers. It’s nice to know the feds got right on the ball, if a little late. What does this have to do with jiggering Mexico’s election? Hold that thought. This document is what’s called a “guidance” memo for using a private contractor to provide databases on dangerous foreigners. Good idea. We know the 19 hijackers came from Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and the Persian Gulf Emirates. So you’d think the “Intelligence Collection” would be aimed at getting info on the guys in the Gulf. No so. When we received the document, we obtained as well its classified appendix. The target nations for “foreign counterterrorism investigation” were nowhere near the Persian Gulf. Every one was in Latin America — Argentina, Venezuela, Mexico and a handful of others. Latin America?! Was there a terror cell about to cross into San Diego with exploding enchiladas? Read the rest!!

The Floridization of Mexico. Tomorrow (Sunday July2, 2006) is election day. A ChoicePoint rep was arrested a while back, but will the voter rolls be scrubbed of non-felons, like Floridas were?

Will g.w. bush be frog marched from his pirate ship for interfering with International Elections?

From the same article;

Foreign — that is, American — interference in political campaigns is a crime. That didn’t stop Team Bush. However, when the theft of its citizen files was discovered, Argentina threatened to arrest ChoicePoint contractors until the company returned the tapes — and Mexico’s attorney general did in fact arrest the ChoicePoint data thieves to avoid his party from looking too much the stooge of its Washington patron. Whether George Bush gave back his copy, no one will say.

I would love to see a subpoena for international election tampering. Greed has no bounds for some people.

[PatrickHenry]

http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=12817

“This may be the worst security flaw we have seen in touch screen voting machines,” says Open Voting Foundation president, Alan Dechert. Upon examining the inner workings of one of the most popular paperless touch screen voting machines used in public elections in the United States, it has been determined that with the flip of a single switch inside, the machine can behave in a completely different manner compared to the tested and certified version. “Diebold has made the testing and certification process practically irrelevant,” according to Dechert. “If you have access to these machines and you want to rig an election, anything is possible with the Diebold TS -- and it could be done without leaving a trace. All you need is a screwdriver.” This model does not produce a voter verified paper trail so there is no way to check if the voter’s choices are accurately reflected in the tabulation. Open Voting Foundation is releasing 22 high-resolution close up pictures of the system. This picture, in particular, shows a “BOOT AREA CONFIGURATION” chart painted on the system board. The most serious issue is the ability to choose between "EPROM" and "FLASH" boot configurations. Both of these memory sources are present. All of the switches in question (JP2, JP3, JP8, SW2 and SW4) are physically present on the board. It is clear that this system can ship with live boot profiles in two locations, and switching back and forth could change literally everything regarding how the machine works and counts votes. This could be done before or after the so-called "Logic And Accuracy Tests". A third possible profile could be field-added in minutes and selected in the "external flash" memory location, the interface for which is present on the motherboard. This is not a minor variation from the previously documented attack point on the newer Diebold TSx. To its credit, the TSx can only contain one boot profile at a time. Diebold has ensured that it is extremely difficult to confirm what code is in a TSx (or TS) at any one time but it is at least theoretically possible to do so. But in the TS, a completely legal and certified set of files can be instantly overridden and illegal uncertified code be made dominant in the system, and then this situation can be reversed leaving the legal code dominant again in a matter of minutes. “These findings underscore the need for open testing and certification. There is no way such a security vulnerability should be allowed. These systems should be recalled”

Organized election fraud. Didn't Saddam pull this crap?