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Section 8 · Nov 2, 2004, 08:00 pm

Badnarik for me, and I convinced my wife not to vote for Kerry, and instead for Cobb. Although Bush is a terrible president, I could never vote for Kerry for the following reasons:

1. Voted for the PATRIOT Act
2. Voted for the Presidential War Powers Act
3. Supports the ban on gay marriage
4. Supports the federal war on drugs
5. Supports more useless social programs and more taxes
6. Supports stronger sanctions
7. Supports the federal reserve
8. Supports gun control
9. Voted for No Child Behind Act, yet another pointless social program gone awry
10. Supports federal income tax
11. Supports the criminalization of gambling and prostitution
12. Supports government control over the spectrum
13. At the DNC, they had free speech zones surrounded on all sides by chainlink fence and razor wire
14. Supports useless business regulations
15. Supports raising the unconstitutional minimum wage
16. Supports a more internationalized foreign policy
17. Supports government granted corporate monopolies
18. Supports social security
19. Supports government subsidies
20. Supports WTO, NAFTA, and its ilk

Kerry would be merely a continuation in the batch of egomaniacal statists running our country.

bishop · Nov 2, 2004, 08:16 pm

both me and my girl held our noses and voted for kerry..

we voted LP for several state spots.

Section 8 · Nov 2, 2004, 08:24 pm

Yeah, LP is very good for local positions, as they have more power and can actually accomplish something. What state do you live in? I could see voting for Kerry in a swing state, but especially since I live in Washington, I knew that a vote for Kerry would be useless, so I voted Badnarik.

bishop · Nov 2, 2004, 08:56 pm

i'm in MA.. obviously it wasn't considered to be a swing state, but i decided that i didn't want to take any chances..

i'm damn glad to see that kerry won in my old home - jersey.

i think i've mentioned this before.. i didn't choose not to vote for badnarik simply because i wanted bush fired.. i honestly didn't care for him all that much - i liked nolan.

Section 8 · Nov 2, 2004, 09:28 pm

I wish that Harry Browne ran again, but at least I'm glad that Russo didn't get the nomination. Something about him really pissedme off, especially his speeches. At least Badnarik is a formidable public speaker, and looks the most presidential out of all the third parties.

lspiderl · Nov 2, 2004, 09:37 pm

BUSH ALL THE WAY AND HES GONNA GET MISSOURI TOO

lspiderl · Nov 2, 2004, 09:40 pm

bush is clearly leading so far
check the yahoo home page

bishop · Nov 2, 2004, 09:42 pm

missouri.. heh, what a surprise.

Section 8 · Nov 2, 2004, 09:46 pm

Bush and Kerry are winning their expected states, no real surprises on that front. It looks like Florida will go to Bush, whil I think that PA will go to Kerry. It all comes down to Ohio.

lspiderl · Nov 2, 2004, 09:48 pm

ohio is clearly leaning bush
and we havent even hit txas yet witch will cancel most of cali

PatrickHenry · Nov 2, 2004, 11:50 pm

I am so ashamed. I voted Kerry. I oppose almost everything he stands for. Maybe he can beat Bush...

Scribbler1 · Nov 3, 2004, 12:08 am

Kerry as an anti-Bush vote. Libertarian for Governor and U.S. Representative. The rest are too local to bother including.

Electoral votes as of this min. Bush 207 to Kerry 206. It could still go either way.

But no matter WHO wins, half of the country didn't want him. Not my idea of a mandate, that much is certain.

<edit> it appears Volconvo's webhost hasn't reset its clocks.

Evil Baby · Nov 3, 2004, 12:11 am

Quote:

Originally posted by lspiderl,
ohio is clearly leaning bush
and we havent even hit txas yet witch will cancel most of cali

Dude. barely any of Ohio has reported in. Many polls are still open because of such long line ups. The one college is reporting near 100% voter turn out and young people are voting over welhemingly for Kerry. I wouldn't get too excited just yet. However I do think it will be close.

Section 8 · Nov 3, 2004, 12:15 am

Well, there are a few plausible tie situations. If Hawaii goes Kerry, Nevada goes Bush, Ohio goes Kerry, Florida goes Bush (it already has), and Wisconson goes Bush I believe it's a 269 tie. In that case, Bush will be elected.

Evil Baby · Nov 3, 2004, 12:25 am

Quote:

Originally posted by Section 8,
Well, there are a few plausible tie situations. If Hawaii goes Kerry, Nevada goes Bush, Ohio goes Kerry, Florida goes Bush (it already has), and Wisconson goes Bush I believe it's a 269 tie. In that case, Bush will be elected.

Now I think that would be damn funny

gr8fuldaniel · Nov 3, 2004, 12:30 am

I am glad I voted for Kerry. The only place that shows Badnarik votes is here on Volconvo. If I had voted for him it wouldnt matter, why vote if it doesnt flush Bush down the shitter?
Kerry still has a chance at this point.

Section 8 · Nov 3, 2004, 12:54 am

If Kerry takes Ohio he has to take either Hawaii, New Mexico, Nevada, Colorado, or another swing state to win. All Bush has to do is win Ohio. The big race for me is between Nader and Badnarik, with Nader up about 30k.

Section 8 · Nov 3, 2004, 12:56 am

This just in, Fox calls Ohio for Bush, and that's the ball game folks.

gr8fuldaniel · Nov 3, 2004, 01:24 am

Air America Radio just called Ohio for Kerry

gr8fuldaniel · Nov 3, 2004, 01:33 am

Actually they arent calling ohio for Kerry....They are cautionary. Not conceding

View Poll Results: Who Did You Vote For?
John Kerry	10	62.50%
George Bush	3	18.75%
Michael Badnarik	3	18.75%
Michael Peroutka	0	0%
David Cobb	0	0%
Ralph Nader	0	0%
Walter Brown	0	0%
Voters: 16. You may not vote

Nov 2, 2004, 08:16 pm	#2 (permalink) (top)
bishop moderat-e/o-r Location: boston Posts: 11,184	both me and my girl held our noses and voted for kerry.. we voted LP for several state spots. hope for america... http://www.ronpaul2008.com/

Nov 2, 2004, 08:56 pm	#4 (permalink) (top)
bishop moderat-e/o-r Location: boston Posts: 11,184	i'm in MA.. obviously it wasn't considered to be a swing state, but i decided that i didn't want to take any chances.. i'm damn glad to see that kerry won in my old home - jersey. i think i've mentioned this before.. i didn't choose not to vote for badnarik simply because i wanted bush fired.. i honestly didn't care for him all that much - i liked nolan. hope for america... http://www.ronpaul2008.com/

Nov 2, 2004, 09:42 pm	#8 (permalink) (top)
bishop moderat-e/o-r Location: boston Posts: 11,184	missouri.. heh, what a surprise. hope for america... http://www.ronpaul2008.com/

Nov 2, 2004, 11:50 pm	#11 (permalink) (top)
PatrickHenry 9/11: Inside Job Location: Hawai'i, Big Island Posts: 10,437	I am so ashamed. I voted Kerry. I oppose almost everything he stands for. Maybe he can beat Bush... "Arms in the hands of the citizens may be used at individual discretion for the defense of the country, the overthrow of tyranny or private self-defense." -- John Adams

Nov 2, 2004, 08:00 pm	#1 (permalink) (top)
Section 8 Hot Lava Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 782	Badnarik for me, and I convinced my wife not to vote for Kerry, and instead for Cobb. Although Bush is a terrible president, I could never vote for Kerry for the following reasons: 1. Voted for the PATRIOT Act 2. Voted for the Presidential War Powers Act 3. Supports the ban on gay marriage 4. Supports the federal war on drugs 5. Supports more useless social programs and more taxes 6. Supports stronger sanctions 7. Supports the federal reserve 8. Supports gun control 9. Voted for No Child Behind Act, yet another pointless social program gone awry 10. Supports federal income tax 11. Supports the criminalization of gambling and prostitution 12. Supports government control over the spectrum 13. At the DNC, they had free speech zones surrounded on all sides by chainlink fence and razor wire 14. Supports useless business regulations 15. Supports raising the unconstitutional minimum wage 16. Supports a more internationalized foreign policy 17. Supports government granted corporate monopolies 18. Supports social security 19. Supports government subsidies 20. Supports WTO, NAFTA, and its ilk Kerry would be merely a continuation in the batch of egomaniacal statists running our country.

Nov 2, 2004, 08:24 pm	#3 (permalink) (top)
Section 8 Hot Lava Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 782	Yeah, LP is very good for local positions, as they have more power and can actually accomplish something. What state do you live in? I could see voting for Kerry in a swing state, but especially since I live in Washington, I knew that a vote for Kerry would be useless, so I voted Badnarik.

Nov 2, 2004, 09:28 pm	#5 (permalink) (top)
Section 8 Hot Lava Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 782	I wish that Harry Browne ran again, but at least I'm glad that Russo didn't get the nomination. Something about him really pissedme off, especially his speeches. At least Badnarik is a formidable public speaker, and looks the most presidential out of all the third parties.

Nov 2, 2004, 09:37 pm	#6 (permalink) (top)
lspiderl Molten Ash Posts: 58	BUSH ALL THE WAY AND HES GONNA GET MISSOURI TOO

Nov 2, 2004, 09:40 pm	#7 (permalink) (top)
lspiderl Molten Ash Posts: 58	bush is clearly leading so far check the yahoo home page

Nov 2, 2004, 09:46 pm	#9 (permalink) (top)
Section 8 Hot Lava Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 782	Bush and Kerry are winning their expected states, no real surprises on that front. It looks like Florida will go to Bush, whil I think that PA will go to Kerry. It all comes down to Ohio.

Nov 2, 2004, 09:48 pm	#10 (permalink) (top)
lspiderl Molten Ash Posts: 58	ohio is clearly leaning bush and we havent even hit txas yet witch will cancel most of cali

Nov 3, 2004, 12:08 am	#12 (permalink) (top)
Scribbler1 Skeptical Patriot Posts: 7,746	Kerry as an anti-Bush vote. Libertarian for Governor and U.S. Representative. The rest are too local to bother including. Electoral votes as of this min. Bush 207 to Kerry 206. It could still go either way. But no matter WHO wins, half of the country didn't want him. Not my idea of a mandate, that much is certain. <edit> it appears Volconvo's webhost hasn't reset its clocks. Not a day goes by that I don't see something that reinforces my belief that people are idiots.

Nov 3, 2004, 12:15 am	#14 (permalink) (top)
Section 8 Hot Lava Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 782	Well, there are a few plausible tie situations. If Hawaii goes Kerry, Nevada goes Bush, Ohio goes Kerry, Florida goes Bush (it already has), and Wisconson goes Bush I believe it's a 269 tie. In that case, Bush will be elected.

Nov 3, 2004, 12:30 am	#16 (permalink) (top)
gr8fuldaniel Fire the Liars Location: California Posts: 7,090	I am glad I voted for Kerry. The only place that shows Badnarik votes is here on Volconvo. If I had voted for him it wouldnt matter, why vote if it doesnt flush Bush down the shitter? Kerry still has a chance at this point. ~~ Helpful Linx * Huff Post * WRH * RAW STORY ~~

Nov 3, 2004, 12:54 am	#17 (permalink) (top)
Section 8 Hot Lava Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 782	If Kerry takes Ohio he has to take either Hawaii, New Mexico, Nevada, Colorado, or another swing state to win. All Bush has to do is win Ohio. The big race for me is between Nader and Badnarik, with Nader up about 30k.

Nov 3, 2004, 12:56 am	#18 (permalink) (top)
Section 8 Hot Lava Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 782	This just in, Fox calls Ohio for Bush, and that's the ball game folks.

Nov 3, 2004, 01:24 am	#19 (permalink) (top)
gr8fuldaniel Fire the Liars Location: California Posts: 7,090	Air America Radio just called Ohio for Kerry ~~ Helpful Linx * Huff Post * WRH * RAW STORY ~~

Nov 3, 2004, 01:33 am	#20 (permalink) (top)
gr8fuldaniel Fire the Liars Location: California Posts: 7,090	Actually they arent calling ohio for Kerry....They are cautionary. Not conceding ~~ Helpful Linx * Huff Post * WRH * RAW STORY ~~