3rd Prezdebate Young's Litany test

[Young]

This Post is dedicated to a question by question Debate upon this Our Final Debate. Post Reply requires that you conform to format. Many of you might Not have taken Notes through the Debate, so i offer you the Transcript to start this in a Most Fair manor.....

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/10/13/...ript/index.html


1st? Kerry - Safer world?

K - Heard it all before
B - Heard it all before
K - Gets harsh says, "He let Bin Laden escape"
B - "Gosh, I just don't think I ever said I'm not worried about Osama bin Laden. It's kind of one of those exaggerations." LIE - BSuh proof http://www.angehr.com/images/bush_twofaces.jpg

2nd? Bush - Flu Vacine shortage?

B -Blames Englich company, asks Us to suffer & Not get shot, goes Off subject and Hits Trial Lawyers...Obvious attack on Edwards
K - Blames Bush's Healthcare plan, Claims he has a PLan, gives lots of #'s, doesn't give any answer to question
B - empty promises
K - Decent last word

3rd? Kerry - How will you keep promise of Not raising taxs on middle class?

K - Hits Bush on Jobs? Pay as you go.....
B - Hits Kerry's Senate record, "You pay he goes ahead & spends"

4th? Bush - What do you say to someone whose lost their job?

B - "We want to help ya", EDUCATION!, "I need four more years"
K - "Being lectured by the president on fiscal responsibility is a little bit like Tony Soprano talking to me about law and order in this country.", Seemed to hit Bush on everything

5th? Kerry - is it fair to blame Bush for loss of Jobs?

K - Level trade playing field, cut corporate loopholes, reward those who create jobs here
B - "Whew" more of the same, Hit Kerry's record again
K - kerry shows weakness
B - "Senator, no one's playing with your votes. You voted to increase taxes 98 times. When they voted -- when they proposed reducing taxes, you voted against it 126 times.

He voted to violate the budget cap 277 times. You know, there's a main stream in American politics and you sit right on the far left bank. As a matter of fact, your record is such that Ted Kennedy, your colleague, is the conservative senator from Massachusetts"

6th? Bush - Homosexuality a choice?

B - "Don't Know"
K - "Talk to Cheney's Daughter

7th? Kerry - Sin to vote Kerry?

K - Can't legislate Religion on everyone
B - "Kerry voted against Ban on Partial Birth (for some people thoughts of voting Kerry vanish at this very moment)

8th? Bush - Whose at Fault for Nations Healthcare problems?

B - Trial Lawyers!! "Thirdly, one of the reasons why there's still high cost in medicine is because this is -- they don't use any information technology. It's like if you looked at the -- it's the equivalent of the buggy and horse days, compared to other industries here in America." Medicine = Buggy & Horse days, when was that Dubya? before or after the Horse & Buggy days?
K - Like Bullets....Import drugs...Bulk purchasing....seniors in poverty....drug company soaring profits over past 4 years
B - Bush has been trying to sell Kerry as having a Bad record, then he..."
I think it's important, since he talked about the Medicare plan, has he been in the United States Senate for 20 years? He has no record on reforming of health care. No record at all." so which is it a Bad record or No record at all?
K - Basically calls Bush a Liar

9th? Kerry - Where's the $$$ for Healthcare?

K - Cover every child...heard it before, doesn't answer question
B - " In all due respect, I'm not so sure it's credible to quote leading news organizations about -- oh, nevermind." "Gov't controlled Healthcare leads to Bad Healthcare"
K - Bush hasn't funded VA & Vets
B - Hits Clintons VA Funding

10th? Bush - Where do you get the $$$ to save Social Security?

B - "Seniors will get their checks" "This will be vital in my second term"
K - "You just heard the president say that young people ought to be able to take money out of Social Security and put it in their own accounts.

Now, my fellow Americans, that's an invitation to disaster." (at this very moment Bush loses the Elderly Vote)

11th? Kerry - Greenspan says either SS must be cut or retirement age raised?

K - Roll back tax cuts for top 2%, hits Bush on Job losses
B - "I heard more of the same"

12th? Bush - Immigration?

B - Answer...a joke, "I was a border Gov.", "I Believe in the Temporary worker card" "As long as an American doesn't want the job", "I don't believe we should reward illegal behavior" which is what Bush's temp work card does....WAKE UP!!!
K - Bush broke promises, "I want to toughen the border" <--1st time i've heard that
B - "Kerry doesn't know the borders" ok & Bush knows the Texan border...or did he mean surferh20, cause kerry knows snowboarding, and wakeboarding, windsurfing, &......
K - 4000 illegals a day (at this point the hispanic vote goes Bush, rest of nation leans towards Kerry if they weren't decided and count security as a priority)

13th? Kerry - Raise Min. wage?

K - Yes, Bushies block the vote, i'll give ya $7, Hits the top 2% tax cut again
B - I support another version, Goes into another Education spew, doesn't speak to the question

14th? Bush - Roe v. Wade?

B -Litany test? doesn't answer
K - won't undue Roe v. Wade
B - Litany again
K - moves to after school childcare cuts..."Not in my Values"

15th? Kerry - Draft? what to do about back door draft

K - good answer
B - we need to win in Iraq, long pause & No answer
K - "Never fail to protect U.S."
B - Strong... Kerry wouldn't give authority for first gulf war, but that wasn't Not protecting America and had nothing to do with the draft

16th? Bush - Gun Control?

B - Fair response
K - Hunter...gun owner....promised Not to tamper with the 2nd amendment....non support of the assault weapons ban made it easier for terrorists to get guns....but Idiots will still vote Bush simply because "Kerry'll take yer gunz"

17th? Kerry - Aff. ACTION? (black vote)

K - eh
B - said he'd even invited some blacks into the oval office....moved again to Education? (Lost any remaining Black votes)

18th? Bush - Faith & Policy?

B - "I pray a lot" Longest Pause of the Night....During a Faith question?????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
K - "Faith without works is Dead"

19th? Kerry - Together to Polarized?

K - "Most divided Ever"
B - (bush had to this point hit Kerry with TeddyK like atleast 5 times) !!!Then braggs about working with Him!!! "And we made good progress early on. The No Child Left Behind Act, incredibly enough, was good work between me and my administration and people like Sen. Ted Kennedy."
Then seems really worried and says...."We're just in a period -- we've got to work to bring it -- my opponent keeps mentioning John McCain, and I'm glad he did. John McCain is for me for president because he understands I have the right view in winning the war on terror and that my plan will succeed in Iraq. And my opponent has got a plan of retreat and defeat in Iraq." quick Bushies google for the Kerry Retreat & defeat Plan...We must look this Plan Bush has discovered over

20th? Bush - Women in your life...Taught you?

B - "Laura speaks English better than i do"
K - "Lucky people who married up"

F the closing statement/nano stump speech...my Yankees were in showing Pedro who is Daddy Is!

Kerry spoke 2 Lies
Bush....NINE

Bush Won the Debate

In order to Win Kerry'd of had to have Knocked Him out....with His Fist! & it'd of had to have been 1st punch too!

CBS Undecided's poll
Kerry 39%
Bush 25%
Tie 35%

ABC polled dem's 30% Rep's 38% Ind's 28%
Kerry 42%
Bush 41%
Tie 14%

MSNBC
Kerry 71%
Bush 29%

Foxnews
Who won Wednesday night's presidential debate?

a. President Bush (45%)
138,449


b. Senator Kerry (54%)
169,165


c. I did not watch (1%)
2,355


d. None of the above (0%)
617


310,586 total votes

[kharmajunkie]

I know everyone is saying that Kerry won on points but I have to disagree. Bush looked and sounded like an uninformed fratboy as usual but the fact that Kerry can't wipe the floor with him shows how weak Kerry really is. I'm still gonna vote for the Chowd but only because Bush is an unstable, religious zealot.
And Kerry showed very little class with the "Cheney daughter's a lesbo" point. You know how I feel about gay rights Young; we're currently bashing each other on another thread regarding that, but to just bring up Cheney's daughter from out of thin air was beneath him. Bush is doing an adequate at best job in the Whitehouse so not being able to put up a worthy candidate is a sad statement about Dems, Repubs, and the apathetic American voting public.

[Young]

Well.....Many Bushies don't know and need to know, not only that Cheney's Daughter is a Lesbian....but that Cheney supports Homosexuals.