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![]() 9/11: Inside Job Location: Hawai'i, Big Island Posts: 10,455 | http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/10/...l/index_np.html or truthout http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/100504J.shtml ![]() Quote:
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| moderat-e/o-r Location: boston Posts: 11,184 | couldn't have happened to a more deserving s.o.b... he reminds me of senator torricelli from jersey.. investigators were after him for years, but never got him. all the while, he continued lying, cheating, breaking the law.. greedy lil' piggy. seems that delay ain't much different. |
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| Volcanic Erupter Posts: 9,589 | I think DeLay is more dangerous than Toricelli, "the Torch" as he was know. The Torch was a low life opportunist. Delay is certainly that but also has a huge constituency and considerable power. I can only hope justice is done and that he is taken down once and for all. Rick "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." Sinclair Lewis |
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| Skeptical Patriot Posts: 7,836 | Quote: PH "Will DeLay come out smelling like a rose, or will he get hit with the load like Biff in Back to the Future?" I vote for the roses. For one thing, I figure the notreallyallthat "Liberal media" will give this scarcely a mention, which usually induces Alzheimers disease in the population and the whole thing will either be ignored or quickly forgotten. For another thing, it seems like if you show strong support for Bush these days you get to wrap yourself in the same Teflon robe the President wears. He could be caught on film dumping Anthrax into the food at a homeless shelter and still be called a patriotic american. When it comes to Teflon, by comparison Ronald Reagan appears to have been covered in super glue compared to the non-stick qualities Bush has had with a distressingly large number of people. Not a day goes by that I don't see something that reinforces my belief that people are idiots. |
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| moderat-e/o-r Location: boston Posts: 11,184 | delay is a rabid bible thumper, so that right there makes him more dangerous in my eyes. he might, and probably will, escape this round of inquiry. but, that doesn't mean that investigators will simply forget about him. just like any mobster, he's going to make a mistake one day and then it'll all be over for him. |
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![]() 9/11: Inside Job Location: Hawai'i, Big Island Posts: 10,455 | He can't quite shake it yet: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6652757/site/newsweek Quote:
"Arms in the hands of the citizens may be used at individual discretion for the defense of the country, the overthrow of tyranny or private self-defense." -- John Adams | |
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| moderat-e/o-r Location: boston Posts: 11,184 | well, back in jersey, the dems didn't choose to risk their own political careers by sticking up for toricelli - and he was far less corrupt than delay. still, he managed to survive for years. with all the money delay's received, it's clear that he can hang this up in litigation until the cows come home. if receiving money from lobbyists was an illegal action, then how is he still in power? gotta be thanks to his incessant litigation funds. i haven't heard sustained calls for him to step down as majority leader from the democrats though - why they aren't pushing the issue is beyond me. |
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| BANNED (Multiple usernames after another ban) Posts: 1,337 | Interesting no one has posted in his defense. You would think this guy could keep a lower profile. In all honesty, it seems like not a whole lot can be done about these people. They always seem to be able to sliver out of reach. |
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| Skeptical Patriot Posts: 7,836 | Quote:
Seriously, I believe it has a lot to do with timing. It seems to me that most Americans have such a short attention span that if someone isn't accused, tried, convicted and hung in one month they lose focus and move on to the next newest flavor. In Delay's case I think it is NOT the people demanding something be done it's more the government and the media actually doing something. I still don't think it's going to go anywhere though. | |
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![]() 9/11: Inside Job Location: Hawai'i, Big Island Posts: 10,455 | It looks like all the Republicans are gonna rally to Mr. DeLay. The ethics committee is considering post facto changes to the rules, http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/30/politics/30delay.html to make it harder to start investigations of congressmen's integrity. Quote:
And finally The Republicans in the Texas legislature want to take the authority to prosecute these matters away from the Travis County prosecutor (a Democrat) and give that authority to the GOP State Attorney General, as well as legitimizing what got Mr. DeLay on the wrong side of the Law... Quote:
"Arms in the hands of the citizens may be used at individual discretion for the defense of the country, the overthrow of tyranny or private self-defense." -- John Adams | ||
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| Igneous Magma Posts: 374 | hehe Delay's been in hot water for a couple of months now, and a number of his top aids have been tried and convicted. I get the feeling that the DA on this case isn't about to let go they're digging in for the long haul and they're determined to get a kill. In most cases with the assistant’s convictions this would already be a forgone conclusion Delay’s just buying time with his money. Nonetheless I get the feeling the money is starting to loose patience, and is looking for another greasy bastard to make majority leader. When machines and computers, profit motives and property rights are considered more important than people, the giant triplets of racism, militarism and economic exploitation are incapable of being conquered Martin Luther King Jr. |
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| Junior Member? Hah! Location: Houston, TX Posts: 54 | My, I didn't know DeLay was so well-known nationally. DeLay is all about bigger freeways for the suburban twits here in Houston, but vehemently opposed the city's light rail plan, saying "it's the same thing Calgary, AB did when I was a kid," or somesuch. He actually had to fight to keep his seat this past election. Here's hoping for 2006... "Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of a cancer cell." Do you make things better where you live, or do you screw things up and live in the suburbs? |
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| Igneous Magma Posts: 374 | Tom delay is probably the third most powerful man in America behind bush and cheney. That guy has the house of reps locked down so tight Bush can ram just about any bill through. And this isn’t even with party discipline they have in Europe. When machines and computers, profit motives and property rights are considered more important than people, the giant triplets of racism, militarism and economic exploitation are incapable of being conquered Martin Luther King Jr. |
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| voyager Location: where I am free Posts: 111 | They do not call DeLay "The Hammer" for nothing. This guy knows how to twist GOP arms into pretzles to make sure he gets his way. When the House leadership is considering changing the Ethics Rules and the Chairman of the Committee just to save DeLay's bacon, this guy has some power. What is going to bring him down is the lawsuit over violating the Texas constitution concerning gifts/contributions from corporations. The GOP is running so scared they are even trying to take away jurisdiction from the DA who first brought the case because he is a Democrat. |
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| Junior Member? Hah! Location: Houston, TX Posts: 54 | After I read some of the responses here I decided to do a little reading about DeLay. And there I was thinking he was just a representative from Sugar Land! It amazes me to think that, instead of gunning for his constitutents (which, admittedly, are mostly suburban rightwingers as he is), he's just chasing after greater power for himself. Good luck to the Travis County prosecutor, Ronnie Earle! You know, the only guy I know of who goes by "the Hammer" is a sleazy attorney on late-night TV. "This is Jim Adler, the Texas Hammer!" Wonder if that's where DeLay got the line? ![]() "Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of a cancer cell." Do you make things better where you live, or do you screw things up and live in the suburbs? |
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![]() It's only logical Location: San Diego Posts: 4,958 | Quote:
. I don't suffer from insanity... I thoroughly enjoy it | |
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| moderat-e/o-r Location: boston Posts: 11,184 | i learned a little tid bit the other day.. the republicans want to change their rules (or have they already?) so that the speaker of the house can remain in that position even if there's an outstanding indictment against them. this rule change is undeniably intended for tommy's benefit. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Nov16.html |
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![]() 9/11: Inside Job Location: Hawai'i, Big Island Posts: 10,455 | Also see my post #10 above... "Arms in the hands of the citizens may be used at individual discretion for the defense of the country, the overthrow of tyranny or private self-defense." -- John Adams |
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