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Old Sep 24, 2004, 01:07 pm   #1 (permalink) (top)
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So far many have posted things about the Bush policy, pro and con. But I seen little or no debate about the Kerry platform, what is his policy.

Some republicans just say he has none or that they cannot be sure what it is.

So I am posting a webpage and at the bottom half of the webpage they give a brief outline of where he stands on different issues.

You can check out his policy or stand and have it. The election draws near and so it is time to debate what Kerry believes in. Being that we have overdosed on Bush debates.

Do you like what he stands for or not.

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/...ampaign,%202004

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Old Sep 24, 2004, 01:48 pm   #2 (permalink) (top)
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Since abolishing the FCC and other pork filled federal agencies aren't
on his agenda, I don't like his platform; he's just another big government hack. "Still, I'll settle for him over the Reverend Bush.
How about none of us settle and vote Badnarik in '04 instead?


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Old Sep 24, 2004, 02:08 pm   #3 (permalink) (top)
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what policy, in particular, do you want to talk about?

how about working to improve world opinion of our country? politicians all over the world are winning based on anti-american campaign platforms. in the war on terror, do we want to alienate our allies and isolate ourselves?

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How about none of us settle and vote Badnarik in '04 instead?
because firing bush is our primary concern.


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Old Sep 24, 2004, 02:32 pm   #4 (permalink) (top)
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what is his policy.
Here. Which one would you like to discuss?

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How about none of us settle and vote Badnarik in '04 instead?
So we can watch Congress stomp him into the ground? Yeah, that'd be fun. But then I'd say the chances of him getting even 20% of the vote and snowballs raining in hell are running about neck and neck. His powerbase and message being so strong and all.

But hey, he was Executive Vice-President of his dormitory at Indiana University. That's certainly gotta count for something.


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Old Sep 24, 2004, 02:37 pm   #5 (permalink) (top)
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how about working to improve world opinion of our country?
Yup. If nothing else, electing Kerry might convince the world that Americans had come to their senses and were renouncing the Bush Doctrine. I seriusly doubt that anything is going to save our little adventure in Iraq, but it might help in a variety of other ways.


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Old Sep 24, 2004, 02:59 pm   #6 (permalink) (top)
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Bush steals my money to harm people. ( Iraq, PATRIOT act, gun control, LOTS Treaty, etc etc )
Kerry steals slightly more of my money to harm people. ( Iraq, PATRIOT act, gun control, etc etc )

Someone please explain to me why Theif A is preferable to Theif B.
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Old Sep 24, 2004, 03:26 pm   #7 (permalink) (top)
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Because... um... the better one has the power to alter the weather, and the other claims to weather the power alternately better.


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Old Sep 24, 2004, 03:30 pm   #8 (permalink) (top)
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Because "Theif" A is stealing less money.

I read on Kerry's site on what he plans to do with Iraq. I agree with his plan to get NATO involved and better reconstruction effort.

I also like the Buy America stance amd also the consumer's "Right to Know" where call center calls they receive are originating from.

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Old Sep 24, 2004, 03:51 pm   #9 (permalink) (top)
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Someone please explain to me why Theif A is preferable to Theif B.
right now, it's about a whole lot more than money.


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Old Sep 24, 2004, 03:53 pm   #10 (permalink) (top)
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I heard one political reporter comment that Kerry was putting out "politcal cliches". I just looked at his web site - www.johnkerry.com I was mostly impressed by the recitations of platitudes.

In general his economic plans appear designed to placate the his base and teh major unions and doesn't sound terribly sincere. His plan for "energy independence" is feel-good sillyness. Anyone who looks at the world production of oil and our consumption of oil can see that his objectives are impossible. The steps he offers to reach "independence" are also obviously inadequate.

Kerry has finally come out against the war but his approach to the "War of Terror" sounds confused, at least to me.


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Old Sep 24, 2004, 03:56 pm   #11 (permalink) (top)
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where call center calls they receive are originating from.
Huh?


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Old Sep 24, 2004, 04:23 pm   #12 (permalink) (top)
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Kerry endorses benefits to legal immigrants. Deal killer for me.


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Old Sep 24, 2004, 04:39 pm   #13 (permalink) (top)
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Kerry endorses benefits to legal immigrants. Deal killer for me.
Legal or illegal immigrants?


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Old Sep 24, 2004, 04:40 pm   #14 (permalink) (top)
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How about election reform? I would think after Bush "Stealing" the last election Kerry would be pushing this harder. Kerry seems to me to be focused on whatever issue will help him win and not on whats best for America. Not that Bush is focused on any thing other his next corporate kick back.


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How about none of us settle and vote Badnarik in '04 instead?
I am looking into this Badnarik guy...

I too think American can produce a better candidate.
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Old Sep 24, 2004, 04:57 pm   #15 (permalink) (top)
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Originally posted by Compugasm,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='0' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Compugasm,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-harumscarum,
where call center calls they receive are originating from.
Huh?[/b][/quote]

I prefer to know what language to curse at someone when they call me.


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Old Sep 24, 2004, 06:06 pm   #16 (permalink) (top)
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I know one policy I don't agree with when it comes to Kerry and that is stoping Toronto garbage going to Michigan. T.O. sends all of its garbage there and although it is a horrible long time plan its all this crummy city has at the moment.


Another policy that I only heard of briefly was continuing the ban on Canadian cattle going into the U.S. because of the Madcow desease. Odly enough there was only one cow found and that's it.


Other then that, I like Kerry much more then Bush.
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Old Sep 24, 2004, 07:06 pm   #17 (permalink) (top)
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Originally posted by Evil Baby,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='0' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Evil Baby,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>..briefly was continuing the ban on Canadian cattle[/b]

Oh, you mean chicken.
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..Odly enough there was only one cow found and that's it.[/quote]
Amazing, they can find one cow? How can they find one cow? How do they stop a shipment of potatoes, strange bugs or something and they can't find one terrorist and thousands of people stream over the border? They need to get the people catching all this food stuff, training border patrol agents.


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Old Sep 24, 2004, 11:25 pm   #18 (permalink) (top)
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Originally posted by The Dunedan,
Bush steals my money to harm people. ( Iraq, PATRIOT act, gun control, LOTS Treaty, etc etc )
Kerry steals slightly more of my money to harm people. ( Iraq, PATRIOT act, gun control, etc etc )

Someone please explain to me why Theif A is preferable to Theif B.
Did you look at the Kerry agenda? Not much detail and a little abstract I must admit - bur he clearly said he is a hunter and is not in favor of banning guns, he did not claim changing the reconstruction goals in Iraq but reported that we should try to give UN nations control over the reconstruction, I interpret that as meaning they would be awarded a few fat contracts so they can profit as much as our companies.

Far as I can see he has a different plan concerning taxes and the economy.

He has vowed to make sure everyone in America has affordable health care.

I think he might continue for a while what would be handed down from the Bush operations, but might do it in a little more humble manner and with a little more moderation.

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Old Sep 25, 2004, 12:33 am   #19 (permalink) (top)
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Originally posted by Compugasm,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='0' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Compugasm,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
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..briefly was continuing the ban on Canadian cattle
Oh, you mean chicken.
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..Odly enough there was only one cow found and that's it.
Amazing, they can find one cow? How can they find one cow? How do they stop a shipment of potatoes, strange bugs or something and they can't find one terrorist and thousands of people stream over the border? They need to get the people catching all this food stuff, training border patrol agents.[/b][/quote]


No I meant cows, and I'm not too sure how they manage to find this one cow. Never said it made sense but perhaps cows do not whine as much when their rights are being trampled apon?
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Old Sep 25, 2004, 12:44 am   #20 (permalink) (top)
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I should've labled those as rhetorical questions. But I screwed up that Canadian cow comment. I meant to say, Canadian cows, are pigs.


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