Obama Euphoria Ends

[Angry Citizen]

I would eliminate the electoral college.

I agree.

I would make a provision allowing gun control in the constitution.

We both know it would never pass. It requires 2/3rds approval of both House and Congress, and 3/4th ratification by state legislatures. You'd have to be crazy to think a Republican would vote for that.

[Timewalker]

I love this quote U have there Dan.
Question with boldness even the existence of a god; because if there be one he must approve of the homage of reason more than that of blindfolded fear.

-Thomas Jefferson



I also would like to elimanate the Electorial collage. I have some disagreement with the gun control issue but hopefully we will agree to disagree here. Have I done the research ..the answer is yes. I have looked at all sides that can be seen right now. new info comes in almost daily .I feel that people should take the time to look deeply into everything they have ever been taught. Question everything and answer the tough questions for themselves..I have spent 30+ years doing this. How about you?

[Robert Marsh II]

If you search the Internet for a few minutes for current Obama/Biden news, then you will 'all of a sudden' discover 'actions' being taken and statements of progress being made, where just prior to this there were none.

Is it 'not' utterly amazing how intense public pressure (outcries from its citizens nationwide), and a little bit of printers' ink can help to force an otherwise stagnant President of the United States (e.g.: Obama) into immediate action in attempting to save his or her own political position as president!!!???

Could this have something to do with the mid-term elections and Obama needing money to fight Palin?

If Obama is really that good, then why does he need to worry in his push for immediate cash ($$$) to fight Palin???

Oh well, it's better late than never, but just as long as it's not too very late ---- I hope!?

And would Obama become aggressive in his publics' mandate for 'change' -- continuously 'now'???

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[NoJingoLingo]

Quote by: Apeman81 Which has absolutely nothing to do with determining their status as POWs. Your Post 55 : Considering that no declaration of war was approved by congress, they are not enemy combatants but rather, criminals. So you rescind this earlier claim? Since we have established that the 911 attackers and subsequent combatants are enemy combatants, enemy combatants are not tried in civilian courts

They are two different things.

POWs do not need a declaration of war to be labeled as such. As you point out (I'm not still 100% on that) Congress need not be involved at all in determining that status.
Terrorists are not enemy combatants as far as the USA is concerned because we are not at war with "terrorism".

[NoJingoLingo]

Quote by: Robert Marsh II Republicans have sent a written letter to President Barack Obama, informing him that his time is up on Afghanistan War decision. Multiple reasons have been rendered for an immediate disclosure of planned troop involvement, and further delays could become critical mistakes concerning the lives of our men and women in uniform. *The following link contains a copy of this letter : Republicans tell Obama time to decide on Afghanistan - Political Intelligence - A national political and campaign blog from The Boston Globe - Boston.com

1) What CCCPers have to say is quite irrelevant.
Democrats sent many written letters to the Cheney admin informing them that their time in Iraq and Afghanistan is up. Didn't seem to influence them so why should anyone in the Democratic party pay any attention?

2) I believe Obama is trying not to make the mistakes the Cheney admin made. The strategy in March was one thing... being intelligent people, unlike the last admin, they are looking at the new circumstances and deciding if the March strategy is still valid.

[NoJingoLingo]

Quote by: Robert Marsh II Billboards are going up around American cities, that reflect negative dissenting opinion of President Barack Obama's agenda. One billboard shows Obama connected to Jihadist terrorism, complete with turban. Another billboard (birther) basically demands Obama to prove his birth certificate qualifications to America.

Those are all racially motivated so it only makes the opposition look worse.

Obama's job approval rating has dropped below 50 percent for the first time, and that's not a good sign --- Is he heading for 38%???

It's not a good sign but then again it's really just a false poll based on the CCCP and it's media outlet scaring people. 38%? I don't think so, look at all the shizzle that the Cheney admin did before they got to 38%... oh yeah, I forgot that they were scaring people then too which helped their numbers.

Obama is also pleading for money to use against Sarah Palin in regard to 2012 election -- mid-term elections are approaching.

Could you please quote the sentence that says they need money to fight against Palin? I looked at the LA Times article and couldn't find the connection. Except for the part where they link you to donate to Palin. No agenda there...

[NoJingoLingo]

Quote by: Timewalker Personally I am not asking anyone to line up behind me Dan4Reason just to do the research themselves, Once that is done then they of course are free to choose the path that they believe will bring the greater good.

Unfortunately you can get the research results you desire regardless of their validity or basis in fact. Look at all the links people like RMII and Soothsayer post.

[Apeman81]

Quote by: NoJingoLingo They are two different things. POWs do not need a declaration of war to be labeled as such. As you point out (I'm not still 100% on that) Congress need not be involved at all in determining that status. Terrorists are not enemy combatants as far as the USA is concerned because we are not at war with "terrorism".

Were they captured in the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan? If so...

H.J. Res 114 and S.J. Res 23 says we are at war, and thus they are enemy combatants.

Just face the truth and move on.

[Robert Marsh II]

The billboard references serve to reflect a growing disapproval in Obama's job performance, with an increasing number of protest actions portraying dissent against a stagnant administration.

If the economy suffers, then main-street America suffers and everyone looks to their president and discovers after 9+ months nothing more than billions of dollars in bailout band-aids for the rich.

Yes, and without those bailouts we would be in a full-blown depression right now!!!

So now we have only a 50/50 chance of runaway hyperinflation to worry about --- that's good I suppose!?

What about rebuilding the infrastructure to provide those millions of jobs, instead of going off to Asia in order to urge China not to foreclose on our silly selves.

There is a Walmart Ad here somewhere. . . .

The reference to Obama pleading for money is located within the first and second paragraphs of this article by the Los Angeles Times.

And it reads & I quote :

"Never shy about seeking money, Democratic President Obama's Organizing for America is now using the threat of Republican Sarah Palin as an opportunity to acquire more."

"It has just sent an e-mail out to its millions of supporters today pleading for urgent donations to fight the mother of five . . . . "

> Obama has continuous direct contact with 'his' Organizing for America, and I believe him to have some say over where this money might actually be spent.

If used against Palin as portrayed, then he truly is worried about the mid-term elections.

> I certainly hope that those 'millions' of supporters are still answering 'his' call for more money, because he may find the incoming funds are lacking their previous zestful levels -- $$$$ $$$ $$ $ 0 0 0 . . .!

Obama now pleading for money to fight Sarah Palin | Top of the Ticket | Los Angeles Times

[NoJingoLingo]

Quote by: Apeman81 Were they captured in the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan? If so... H.J. Res 114 and S.J. Res 23 says we are at war, and thus they are enemy combatants. Just face the truth and move on.

Not when there is plenty of room to play your game of contrarianism.

Those are not resolutions for "war". Thanks for playing though.

Terrorists are criminals unless they are a recognized arm of a State, because you can't be at "war" with an ideal.

[NoJingoLingo]

Quote by: Robert Marsh II The billboard references serve to reflect a growing disapproval in Obama's job performance, with an increasing number of protest actions portraying dissent against a stagnant administration.

And they are racist. It's noted that you didn't deny it.

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f the economy suffers, then main-street America suffers and everyone looks to their president and discovers after 9+ months nothing more than billions of dollars in bailout band-aids for the rich.

While I disagree with the bank and GM bail-outs I understand that not doing so would have caused a horrific failure of the banking system. Today would look much worse, economically, than if we hadn't bailed them out. Granted, it wasn't done properly starting with Bush's TARP funds but it had to be done or this country would currently be in a great depression and unemployment would be significantly higher.

Some might say that such a scenario would be a good thing. Shed some bad companies and procedures and give us the opportunity to get our hands around the throat of Congress and push the corporations out... oh wait I forgot, the CCCP promotes corporatism so that wouldn't happen. But would happen is that MANY more people would be out of work.

But to say that "after 9+ months nothing more than billions of dollars in bailout band-aids for the rich" is simply disingenuous or ignorant. Which camp are you in? Seems to me the disingenuous like yourself like to use terms like "bailout band-aids for the rich" but constantly oppose increases in taxes or anything that negatively impacts the rich...- they create all the jobs- and other nonsense.

Yes, and without those bailouts we would be in a full-blown depression right now!!! So now we have only a 50/50 chance of runaway hyperinflation to worry about --- that's good I suppose!?

Wait, so now you agree with the bailouts? Are you off your medication?

What about rebuilding the infrastructure to provide those millions of jobs, instead of going off to Asia in order to urge China not to foreclose on our silly selves.

So you think Obama is a road worker who should be swinging a shovel on a road project instead of doing the things that Presidents do?

There is a Walmart Ad here somewhere. . . .

Yeah, it goes like this:
Wal-mart employee: I used to have a job as a stock clerk in a local department store. I had good benefits and a decent wage. Now I work part time at wal-mart and part time at the local gas station and still make less money, oh and I don't have benefits anymore either.

Save money - Live better - Wal-Mart!

The reference to Obama pleading for money is located within the first and second paragraphs of this article by the Los Angeles Times.

And it reads & I quote :

"Never shy about seeking money, Democratic President Obama's Organizing for America is now using the threat of Republican Sarah Palin as an opportunity to acquire more." "It has just sent an e-mail out to its millions of supporters today pleading for urgent donations to fight the mother of five . . . . " > Obama has continuous direct contact with 'his' Organizing for America, and I believe him to have some say over where this money might actually be spent. If used against Palin as portrayed, then he truly is worried about the mid-term elections. > I certainly hope that those 'millions' of supporters are still answering 'his' call for more money, because he may find the incoming funds are lacking their previous zestful levels -- $$$$ $$$ $$ $ 0 0 0 . . .! Obama now pleading for money to fight Sarah Palin | Top of the Ticket | Los Angeles Times

So far no quotes from anyone in the Obama admin. but rather, some journalist commentary. I asked for actual quotes from Obama's email or from someone in the Obama admin who said the things the writer of the article proffers.

Show me the quote where Obama says "sent me money to fight Sarah Palin". Or admit that you are just another CCCPer willing to lie to anyone who will listen.

[Apeman81]

Quote by: NoJingoLingo Not when there is plenty of room to play your game of contrarianism. Those are not resolutions for "war". Thanks for playing though. Terrorists are criminals unless they are a recognized arm of a State, because you can't be at "war" with an ideal.

H.J Res 114: Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002

S.J. Res 23: A joint resolution to authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against those responsible for the recent attacks launched against the United States

Looks like war to me. The world agrees.

You may continue down the rabbit hole if you wish. I will not.

His choice to allow the terrorists to employ civillian courts is a very bad choice indeed. The majority of people agree.

Thus, the euphoria ends.

[Robert Marsh II]

In my opinion; the billboards in regard to Obama's birth certificate, and/or RE: Obama as being connected to terrorism is only public evidence of a publics' dissatisfaction in the current administration.

As to whether they are racially motivated had never crossed 'my' mind, but I am sure that some will perceive it that way, and that still others would find fault with any particular situation.

In regard to bailouts; the United States Government back in the early 1990's with Alan Greenspan should have corrected the past economic bubbles, and not just transferred them into the next consecutive generated bubble.

Therefore, I am forced like every American to accept these bailouts or suffer long-term starvation; this is just like China and its relationship to Americas' multi-trillion dollar debt and trade agreements debacle!

As far as Obama pleading for funding to fight Sarah Palin, then the following links are all I have at this time : >>>>

* (NOTE: I AM NOT FOR NOR AGAINST ANYONE PARTICIPATING IN THE FOLLOWING FUNDRAISER - IT HAS BEEN PRODUCED HERE TO SHOW BARACK OBAMA AND THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE AFFILIATED TO THE GROUP : ORGANIZING FOR AMERICA (OFA), WITH THE INTENT TO RAISE FUNDS TO FIGHT SARAH PALIN)

https://donate.barackobama.com/page/...turnlink=false

Organizing for America | BarackObama.com | Contribute

Organizing for America | BarackObama.com

*Note: The following link reflects the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and Barack Obama affiliated with the Organizing for America (OFA) organization : >>>>

To Urge Passage of Budget, Obama E-Mails His Campaign Army - washingtonpost.com

Organizing for America | BarackObama.com | About Organizing for America

[NoJingoLingo]

Quote by: Robert Marsh II In my opinion; the billboards in regard to Obama's birth certificate, and/or RE: Obama as being connected to terrorism is only public evidence of a publics' dissatisfaction in the current administration.

Except that this kind of "dissatisfaction" began before he was elected. Therefore it must be something else causing nutters to behave this way...
YouTube - Teacher suspended for racist comments about Obama
YouTube - OLD MAN CALLS OBAMA A NIGGER
YouTube - Obama faces racism in West Virginia -- Finally the truth!!!

As to whether they are racially motivated had never crossed 'my' mind, but I am sure that some will perceive it that way, and that still others would find fault with any particular situation.

Of course not... *rolls eyes*

In regard to bailouts; the United States Government back in the early 1990's with Alan Greenspan should have corrected the past economic bubbles, and not just transferred them into the next consecutive generated bubble. Therefore, I am forced like every American to accept these bailouts or suffer long-term starvation; this is just like China and its relationship to Americas' multi-trillion dollar debt and trade agreements debacle!

Then why bitch about Obama when the problems you're talking about were created under republican administrations?

As far as Obama pleading for funding to fight Sarah Palin, then the following links are all I have at this time : >>>> * (NOTE: I AM NOT FOR NOR AGAINST ANYONE PARTICIPATING IN THE FOLLOWING FUNDRAISER - IT HAS BEEN PRODUCED HERE TO SHOW BARACK OBAMA AND THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE AFFILIATED TO THE GROUP : ORGANIZING FOR AMERICA (OFA), WITH THE INTENT TO RAISE FUNDS TO FIGHT SARAH PALIN) https://donate.barackobama.com/page/...turnlink=false Organizing for America | BarackObama.com | Contribute Organizing for America | BarackObama.com *Note: The following link reflects the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and Barack Obama affiliated with the Organizing for America (OFA) organization : >>>> To Urge Passage of Budget, Obama E-Mails His Campaign Army - washingtonpost.com Organizing for America | BarackObama.com | About Organizing for America

In other words you cannot quote the words you attribute to Obama. This exposes you as a liar.

[Robert Marsh II]

What you have to say sounds all too convincing, and yet does not account for :

1. The lack of visible public action being taken by an administration, that ran its entire Campaign 2008 on the hope for change, transparency, and actions upon specific promises pre-rendered.

Specifically the Obama Administration, and not any other administration to be called into question, within this debate context of title: "Obama Euphoria Ends".

It is Barack Obama who made the promises, not 'anyone' else!

2. We are currently still in Iraq, with no troop draw- down plan publicized that I am aware -- as pre-promised.

I know, I know: "All politicians break their campaign promises" ---

Does this administration portray an acceptable expectation of 'change' for the faithful Obama supporters?

I think not!

3. Millions of Americans looked to Obama as a type of Counselor-Social Worker & Savior, and I have personally read the comments of many average American citizens in the past two months.

Basically, a larger number of people are tired of waiting for Obama to accomplish anything to its completion, compared to the intense expectation 1 year ago.

Many who once supported Barack Obama, are now (currently) claiming him to be entirely too weak to lead his nation.

Some are now describing Obama to be nothing more than an errand-boy, and they at one time believed with everything they had in the promise of 'change'.

Truly Sad!!!

4. If Obama was perceived to be doing his job correctly, then why are larger sectors of the American press-media turning against Obama's decisions or lack thereof?

I still say that many want this promised change, and are just now beginning to realize that relentless direct public pressure is the only means of obtaining it!

5. The gallup poll and the independent media phone-polls are verifying Obama's basic approval rating is at 49%, and everyone knows that is not occuring because he is executing great leadership abilities.

6. There are many who still demand Obama to present his birth certificate, but most would have at least had him address this issue quickly in the beginning, and put it to rest immediately.

Instead there was nothing but controversy, and to this day the questions from the American public persist ---

And Why?

Because many are starting to believe President Barack Obama is spineless, and does not know how to handle confrontation --- perhaps his main hidden weakness!?

7. The "Obama Euphoria Ends" debate represents this growing realization, that I have chosen to present for an expanding sector of the American populace.

I choose to represent those Americans who ask:

Q: What is Obama really doing in Washington D.C. -- playing pocket-pool or something?

The intent of this type of questioning is all too clear, and they are still tired of waiting!

These are the types of references that are arising publicly, and being made daily on Main Street America.

I have reflected, and continue to represent this venue, refusing to shrink away from my personally selected obligation to bring these issues contained therein to light --- before a very public audience.

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Closing Statement:

I hope you NoJingoLingo and everyone else reading this will at least try to respect my chosen task at hand.

No matter what is said in this debate, the future will shed the light of absolute truth on this discussion.

I have witnessed the Obama euphoria rapidly declining, and an angry public starting to voice itself in disgruntled contempt of its elected leadership.

I have, and I am reporting this to the best of my capabilities.

I sincerely hope that the Obama/Biden administration will get back on track in the eyes of the American people.

IT IS OUR ONLY HOPE AT THIS TIME!!!

[Robert Marsh II]

President Barack Obama has once again found himself, as he has many times before, 'between a rock and a hard place' inside the Washington D.C. political circus.

This time as to be expected, is in regard to the Afghanistan troop deployment strategy.

Mainstream America it would appear, feels that the war in Afghanistan is no longer worth the sacrifice.

U.S. Strategy on Afghanistan Will Contain Many Messages - New York Times

In His Slow Decision-Making, Obama Goes With Head, Not Gut - Washington Post

[Robert Marsh II]

I am placing this as your (the readers') obligation to research and confirm or deny the following opposition argument to this debate.

For the sake of complete fairness, and since I have challenged anyone to produce any credible evidence against the premise of this debate, which no one has done adequately so far;

(Since no one else has rendered exceptional proof, that would show Obama's public to be continuing in its euphoric phenomena, then I will assist here!)

I will then provide the only 'rumored' counter-argument for the opposition, that I can locate in favor of pro-Obama at this time.

If Obama's Campaign 2008 platform promises were to even remotely match this discovered list, then perhaps the Obama voters would still be enthused!?

Obama’s 90 Accomplishments / Email List | Telling Thoughts

Robert P. Watson PhD, Coordinator for American Studies - Lynn University :

Robert Watson, B.S., M.P.A., Ph.D. — Lynn University, Boca Raton, Florida

Yes, Robert Watson's credentials are valid and accepted, with no contest to his published research capabilities (*See Note).

* Note: In my research I have been unable to locate a credible and documented site for this list of 90 'supposed' accomplishments made by the Obama Administration thus far.

How do these accomplishments compare to the publics' expectations based on Campaign 2008 - the Obama platform promises?

If Obama has failed to comply with his election platform, could this not directly impact Americas' viewpoint in regard to Obama's euphoric popularity?

I still contend that Obama's honeymoon with the press-media and Main Street America are definitely and officially now over!

[dan4reason]

Quote by: Angry Citizen I agree. We both know it would never pass. It requires 2/3rds approval of both House and Congress, and 3/4th ratification by state legislatures. You'd have to be crazy to think a Republican would vote for that.

I consider having a law which controls the government more important than having gun control. I think that gun control could pass anyway. At least in the senate, 60% are democrats and there are many republicans who believe in gun control.

[dan4reason]

Quote by: Timewalker I love this quote U have there Dan. Question with boldness even the existence of a god; because if there be one he must approve of the homage of reason more than that of blindfolded fear. -Thomas Jefferson I also would like to elimanate the Electorial collage. I have some disagreement with the gun control issue but hopefully we will agree to disagree here. Have I done the research ..the answer is yes. I have looked at all sides that can be seen right now. new info comes in almost daily .I feel that people should take the time to look deeply into everything they have ever been taught. Question everything and answer the tough questions for themselves..I have spent 30+ years doing this. How about you?

I dropped my former religious and political beliefs that I formerly had because of my research. I also think that we should also investigate our beliefs deeply and look at all sides. However, I have not been around to be able to spend 30+ years doing this.

I have done some research on gun control, and I found that gun control is a good think. However, I would like to see it decreased. So what is your evidence against it.

I like the quote too. First, it presents a good argument, second, it attacks the most dogmatic religions, and third, it if from a person most theists admire.

[NoJingoLingo]

Quote by: Robert Marsh II What you have to say sounds all too convincing, and yet does not account for : 1. The lack of visible public action being taken by an administration, that ran its entire Campaign 2008 on the hope for change, transparency, and actions upon specific promises pre-rendered.

When you only care to knock someone down you rarely see what you aren't looking for:
The Obameter Scorecard

• Promise Kept 55

• Compromise 14

• Promise Broken 7

• Stalled 17

• In the Works 160

• Not yet rated 262

PolitiFact | The Obameter: Tracking Barack Obama's Campaign Promises

Specifically the Obama Administration, and not any other administration to be called into question, within this debate context of title: "Obama Euphoria Ends".

Says who, your ilk? The opposition? LOL

It is Barack Obama who made the promises, not 'anyone' else! 2. We are currently still in Iraq, with no troop draw- down plan publicized that I am aware -- as pre-promised.

PolitiFact | Begin removing combat brigades from Iraq - Obama promise No. 126:

Quote by: NJL Begin removing combat brigades from Iraq "Barack Obama will work with military commanders on the ground in Iraq and in consultation with the Iraqi government to end the war safely and responsibly within 16 months." Obama sets date for withdrawal of troops from Iraq Updated: Friday, February 27th, 2009 | By Robert Farley "Today, I have come to speak to you about how the war in Iraq will end," President Obama said in a formal announcement of a new Iraq strategy at Camp Lejeune, a Marine Corps base in North Carolina, on Feb. 27. Under the new plan, Obama said, the United States will remove all combat troops by Aug. 31, 2010.

Gee is it Aug. 31, 2010 already? Tempus Fugit.

I know, I know: "All politicians break their campaign promises" ---

Yup, where were you posting 8 years worth of Cheney Admin bashing? I'd like to go read that stuff...

Does this administration portray an acceptable expectation of 'change' for the faithful Obama supporters?

Depends on who you ask. As for me, I'm not ready to make a judgment after only 9.5 months. Seems fair to give the President a little time to wave his magic wand and silence the vocal minority (CCCP members).

I think not!

Of course you don't.

3. Millions of Americans looked to Obama as a type of Counselor-Social Worker & Savior, and I have personally read the comments of many average American citizens in the past two months. Basically, a larger number of people are tired of waiting for Obama to accomplish anything to its completion, compared to the intense expectation 1 year ago.

So you think a large number of people who set unrealistic expectations and after 9.5 months are now complaining, should be validated? If I were to watch nothing but Faux News then I might be able to understand where you get such an idea.

Many who once supported Barack Obama, are now (currently) claiming him to be entirely too weak to lead his nation. Some are now describing Obama to be nothing more than an errand-boy, and they at one time believed with everything they had in the promise of 'change'.

Like who? Don't be shy, name them.

Truly Sad!!!

Yes, truly sad that you are so easily controlled.

4. If Obama was perceived to be doing his job correctly, then why are larger sectors of the American press-media turning against Obama's decisions or lack thereof?

Because negativity gets viewers and viewers mean advertising dollars. Of course if you only source for news is Faux News (and or similar nutbag blogs)

I still say that many want this promised change, and are just now beginning to realize that relentless direct public pressure is the only means of obtaining it!

Not sure WTF you're talking about since that sentence doesn't seem to correlate to your #4

5. The gallup poll and the independent media phone-polls are verifying Obama's basic approval rating is at 49%, and everyone knows that is not occuring because he is executing great leadership abilities.

NO NOT THE POLL NUMBERS!!!

Consider this first sentence from a Washington Post story dated November 25, 1981: "Americans enter the 1981 holiday season with gloomy expectations for themselves and increasingly critical views of Ronald Reagan's handling of the economy, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll." Sound familiar? At the time, the country had just plunged into a recession. Unemployment in November '81 stood at 8.3 percent - nearly a full point jump from Reagan's inauguration - and it was clear that things would get far worse before they improved. Reagan had, months earlier, pushed his massive tax cut program through Congress, but voters were increasingly tuning out his pleadings that - given enough time - it would help combat the economic downturn. In the Washington Post/ABC News poll mentioned above, he scored a 53 percent approval rating - the lowest of his presidency. Only 45 percent of voters approved of his handling of the economy, and just 41 percent thought his tax cuts would help the economy. Similarly, two independent polls this week show Obama's job approval slipping to the lowest level of his presidency - a 48 percent approval rating in a new Quinnipiac survey, and a 50 percent score in the latest Gallup tracking poll. In the Quinnipiac poll, only 43 percent of voters approve of his economic policies. Like Reagan's claims about his tax cuts, the administration's insistence that its stimulus program is helping the economy just isn't washing with the public.

6. There are many who still demand Obama to present his birth certificate, but most would have at least had him address this issue quickly in the beginning, and put it to rest immediately. Instead there was nothing but controversy, and to this day the questions from the American public persist --- And Why?

Because the nutbags are not and never will be satisfied with the OFFICAL GOVERMENT DOCUMENTS FROM THE STATE OF HAWAII.

And, it's good to have a group of nutbags you can chuck your political opponents into.

PART TWO TO FOLLOW