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Charlatan · Nov 2, 2009, 12:57 am

Somali group with al Qaeda ties threatens Israel - CNN.com

That the Somalian Islamist soldiers want to help their brothers is good, but they can help them in other ways. If they want to fight they are bad people, if they want to demonstrate they are also bad. My proposals last night stated that everyone would win by the Palestinians moving to the city or other outlying areas, as there will be more money circulating, less segregation by place - where they would discriminate against a whole village or so - and also there would be no more concern for these people from Palestine taking up less of their time. This runs along the lines of my suggested joint state between Palestine and Isreal, but is smaller in scale, as living together leads to less racism. Imagine people avoiding that town or people from that town avoiding the city based on religious and racial lines.

If the Somalians want to help they can help their own country first - this sounds like an excuse to fight based on hatred and intolrance rather than a noble step forward. If they were to leave thier 'civil war' and instead start helping their own people, that would be noble, and that would be grounds for saying they are acting on religious motives, as religion is about love, not war. Anyone that picks up a stone in the name of religion - or love for that matter - would be an idiot, as religion is about love not war, and converting others is loving and caring.

jaepark · Nov 2, 2009, 01:28 am

I understand your argument however we would have to consider numerous factors of your proposal. For one, the implementation of a joint-nation. This has been attempted numerous times through a number of U.N. proposals, however every single one of them ended up in complete and utter failure.
Also, your claim that racism will decrease if segregation is out of the picture, is not a well thought out statement. This statement has simply been proven by history. With the implementation of non-segregation laws within the U.S, extreme sparks in animosity followed. The only reason America still stands as a nation that is non-segregated is because it had an enforcement body/entity that was able to patrol and maintain stability. Within countries such as Palestine and Israel, no stable/non-corrupt enforcement body is readily available without the implementation of some sort of resolution by the U.N or the E.U.
Thus, as of today, the only implementable solutions are simply placing more border control within the hot spot target regions. These border control bodies currently include U.N peace keepers, however I personally believe that the implementation of the International Police will be extremely efficient. In coalition with the Interpol Troops, I have come to understand that a subsection(with an enforcement body), whom will work under Interpol/U.N Blue helmets, is necessary. Ergo, the use of Frontex seems to be a feasible solution.

Nov 2, 2009, 12:57 am	#1 (permalink)
Charlatan Amateur stripper Location: Cape Town South Africa Posts: 1,574 Blog Entries: 5	Somali group with al Qaeda ties threatens Israel Somali group with al Qaeda ties threatens Israel - CNN.com That the Somalian Islamist soldiers want to help their brothers is good, but they can help them in other ways. If they want to fight they are bad people, if they want to demonstrate they are also bad. My proposals last night stated that everyone would win by the Palestinians moving to the city or other outlying areas, as there will be more money circulating, less segregation by place - where they would discriminate against a whole village or so - and also there would be no more concern for these people from Palestine taking up less of their time. This runs along the lines of my suggested joint state between Palestine and Isreal, but is smaller in scale, as living together leads to less racism. Imagine people avoiding that town or people from that town avoiding the city based on religious and racial lines. If the Somalians want to help they can help their own country first - this sounds like an excuse to fight based on hatred and intolrance rather than a noble step forward. If they were to leave thier 'civil war' and instead start helping their own people, that would be noble, and that would be grounds for saying they are acting on religious motives, as religion is about love, not war. Anyone that picks up a stone in the name of religion - or love for that matter - would be an idiot, as religion is about love not war, and converting others is loving and caring. Going to my destruction!

Nov 2, 2009, 01:28 am	#2 (permalink)
jaepark Sedimentary Rock Posts: 1	I understand your argument however we would have to consider numerous factors of your proposal. For one, the implementation of a joint-nation. This has been attempted numerous times through a number of U.N. proposals, however every single one of them ended up in complete and utter failure. Also, your claim that racism will decrease if segregation is out of the picture, is not a well thought out statement. This statement has simply been proven by history. With the implementation of non-segregation laws within the U.S, extreme sparks in animosity followed. The only reason America still stands as a nation that is non-segregated is because it had an enforcement body/entity that was able to patrol and maintain stability. Within countries such as Palestine and Israel, no stable/non-corrupt enforcement body is readily available without the implementation of some sort of resolution by the U.N or the E.U. Thus, as of today, the only implementable solutions are simply placing more border control within the hot spot target regions. These border control bodies currently include U.N peace keepers, however I personally believe that the implementation of the International Police will be extremely efficient. In coalition with the Interpol Troops, I have come to understand that a subsection(with an enforcement body), whom will work under Interpol/U.N Blue helmets, is necessary. Ergo, the use of Frontex seems to be a feasible solution.