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Old Sep 16, 2004, 02:32 pm   #21 (permalink) (top)
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Even though both parties are close to identical and equally undeserving of being elected, on certain key issues my opinion is that a democrat is always the least of two evils.

I have gone back and forth and all around, but now I am not only voting for Kerry, but helping his campaign in any way I can.

This country has already begun the process all empires eventually go through as they fall, under the direction of George W. Bush, and if he is permited to win another term, he will have nothing to lose and complete the fall of America.

I think that's a DAMN fine reason to vote for Kerry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FYI, I labeled everything as "IMO". I will not have the time to debate my opinions, so please don't challenge them.


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Old Sep 16, 2004, 03:08 pm   #22 (permalink) (top)
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Originally posted by Rainbow,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='0' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Rainbow,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-Mr.Vicchio,
Are oyu voting FOR Kerry because you believe in and support him, or are you voting against Bush? ...
One must be a pretty damn fool, to vote on ANY politician who except "promises" offers a claptrap.

Example :
- "I will create *** jobs"
- "I will give all the people health insurance"
- "I will blah, blah, blah"

Anybody can say that (!) and does not need to be running for U.S. President.
Politicians - during a political campaign - say words we are all capable of.
How stupid a person must be, believing in such words ? with nothing behnid as any proof to support such claims ?
Are there majority of people consists simpletons, only ?

Political elections need to undergo major changes in :
- fulfilling promises
A political candidate would HAVE TO comply with its promises. Otherwise he/she is going to be removed from its position, immediately (!)

Example :
- (a political candidate) "president does not *** blah, blah, blah, I will do *** blah, blah, blah"
Realy ?!
Then, WHAT does stop that candidate to go ahead and implant his/her ideas into effect, and give all the people what they need or want ?
"Nothing". He/She lies.

What is the worse part ?
If a candidate is not going to be elected, then all his/her excellent plans (for all the people) would "vanish" and all the people will suffer, only ?!
Bull*** . That is yet another example of lying to all the people.

How long people are going to be so naive ?
I believe that forever. That is us : Mankind.
A restroom is the best place to vote for any politician. It also may give some of us an "extra pleasure" :-)))[/b][/quote]

Greeting Rainbow.

Then you should look into my new Technocrat Party, here is my motto.

"Look not to me to build you a bridge into a better future, become the bridge your self". How about that? I got tons of bumper stickers we can pass out.

When I get elected (as a write in canadate) we will fund some new voting booths for you all, a touchy feeling type of machine that will be located in all the public restrooms, with 6 buttons for each and every party - not just the Democrats and Republicans and also a "flush it all down tolet" button if you don't lake anyone running for office. How about that? We will have plumbers standing by in case sewer gets jammed. And of course the restrooms (temporary voting booths) would be bi-sexual because it is unconstitutional to seperate people by race, sex, or economical status. So you must take care when you pull the level for Technosoul that you do not grab the wrong ding-a-ling, don't want any recounts. Of course we would need to add a sin tax for using public restrooms to fund the new voting machines. Only 5 cents per visit.

On my first day in office will will have a box of 300 hundred new proposed laws to send over to Congress so they can debate them and vote on them. Each week more would follow. Keep them busy so they can earn their keep.

Bill one: The government shall pass no law about what you can or cannot wear.

Bill two: New York's central park will become Dutch Park and will be dedicated for use by protestors, they will have a public speaking system complete with a soap box to stand on, and also, I will have the microphone patched into the White House and each day, for one hour, my staff will have to listen to those speaking out about the government, so they can inform me about what the people are saying. And, the park will have monuments for famous peace keepers and liberals, a nude statue of Jane Fonda and the Dixie Chicks. One for Timothy Leary, one for Martin King Jr. and one for Joan Biez, Cisco Houston, Yoko Ono, Moore, and some indians. And a special monument for those who fell at Kent State. That will also serve as a pubic restroom for the park pigions which is being environmentallly sensitive. We can pay for that by downsizing the paychecks given to Congress out of our welfare fund - or we could just outsource their jobs to the U.N. which can save taxpayers money.

But I also have some good ideas which I will relate in future postings.

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Old Sep 16, 2004, 07:26 pm   #23 (permalink) (top)
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On my first day in office will will have a box of 300 hundred new proposed laws to send over to Congress so they can debate them and vote on them. Each week more would follow. Keep them busy so they can earn their keep.
Interesting. My first day in office, 300 would be repealed. Each week more would follow because they don't deserve their keep, or the payraise they just voted themselves.


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Old Sep 16, 2004, 07:59 pm   #24 (permalink) (top)
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"Look not to me to build you a bridge into a better future, become the bridge your self".  How about that?
That is --- hmmm --- cool, but I prefer to be myself, instead :-)))
No suicide mission scheduled in my calendar, as of yet :-)))
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Old Sep 16, 2004, 10:17 pm   #25 (permalink) (top)
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Originally posted by Rainbow,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='0' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Rainbow,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-Technosoul,
"Look not to me to build you a bridge into a better future, become the bridge your self".  How about that?
That is --- hmmm --- cool, but I prefer to be myself, instead :-)))
No suicide mission scheduled in my calendar, as of yet :-)))[/b][/quote]

I agree, be your self. My first bill mentioned would also help to ban anyone from making you wear a uniform as a fake outer image, so you can be your self and wear what you think fits your best self image. Or you would have the right to bare nothing and say "take me like you see me for real". We have this whole self image thing made out of cloth, which is masking the real you and the real "others". Each status group is expected to wear the correct uniform, a doctor has his, a policeman has his, a plumber has his, a UPS driver has his, a waitress has hers, a gangster has theirs, a biker has the black leather dress code, a rich man and a poor man can be idenitifed by clothing, lawyers dress like lawyers, and so forth, you get the picture I'm sure. In some cases you can even get arrested if you wear an unauthorized uniform.

You could even wear an anit-Bush T shirt to the NRC with my new bill in effect.

Under our present "uniformed law" we are all like actors on a stage playing our parts, acting but not being REAL to our self.

Once this bill (see my above post) is effected we would need to question all authority, they cannot get away with just being able to get away with it by wearing a robe or a badge, they would have to prove it by who they are in fact, do they have the wisdom of an authority, do they have enough knowledge to give us a prescription, we would have to take the personal responsibilty to judge for our self once they are striped of their "authority by uniform" outer-image, which is only a deep as the cloth it is made out of.

This is a very transformitive idea as you can see, I have already ordered my alien suit and tin hat to wear.

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Old Sep 17, 2004, 01:50 am   #26 (permalink) (top)
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Touchy feely machines in the Restrooms, which double as voting booths? I give up. I can't take it anymore.


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Old Sep 17, 2004, 03:50 am   #27 (permalink) (top)
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Interesting. My first day in office, 300 would be repealed. Each week more would follow because they don't deserve their keep, or the payraise they just voted themselves.
The most intelligent post of the day; sometimes I wonder why we argue so much Comp and then I remember that I was raised by women and get off on debate for sport. Peace Brother....


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Old Sep 17, 2004, 12:23 pm   #28 (permalink) (top)
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I think this summarizes what I think...

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Dear Mr. North,

I am not a soldier, nor have I ever been. In regards to your letter to John Kerry, whom I have nothing in common with, there are a few objections I would like to bring to light.

First off, if you can't do your public duty without worrying about what leftwing nuts are saying about you...get the hell out and let a real man take your job. If we had known we had such whiny sissies running around in the jungle with firearms we wouldn't have let you go over there in the first place.

Oh sorry, I forgot. I'm accusing you here aren't I? Let me get you a tissue.

Why do guys like you claim the morale of the armed forces depend on the flattery of people back home? Your self-esteem isn't going to be reliable if you let other people determine your mood.

Your remark about Capt Warner, Cordier, and Galante is a cheap shot that missed it's target. It's not Kerry's fault these guys were captured. Wake up pal, it's the Vietnamese who were torturing them. Why do you bring up Kerry's name as if you were drawing a line of responsibility for the damage done to them? Wait, it makes sense now, their feelings were scarred for life by a democrat.

You summarize your message, not with an objective discussion on the issues you disagree with Kerry on, but with a blatant demand for respect. What's worse is you want the respect of John Kerry.

You have how many medals and you're demanding respect from a guy who everyone on your end of the spectrum says wants to turn over our sovereignty to the United Nations? I guess those medals just don't mean anything to you. Maybe we should take them back and give them to someone who deserves them. Why do you want respect from someone your people call a traitor? I know. It's because you're all the same crowd and just as guilty as the next traitor.
I'm feeling good today.

Anyhow, as far as who I'm voting for...it will be an American with American values; someone who is not a member of the major political syndicates.
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Old Sep 17, 2004, 01:37 pm   #29 (permalink) (top)
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This is a very transformitive idea as you can see, I have already ordered my alien suit and tin hat to wear.
Clothings reflect person's appearance, but not only.
Wearing anti-or-pro clothings do not change or influnce political decisions, while those determinations are being based and raised upon : money.
What I have within my properties along with my potentials, is the result of political decisions of those who are in power, and not clothings people may wear.

"Pro-UFO" T-shirt ?
Damn good. They do not mind, at least, today :-)))
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Old Sep 21, 2004, 01:41 pm   #30 (permalink) (top)
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Hahaha, I just heard on the radio, the Kerry campaign accepting campaign contributions from a dude from South Korea. They sent a govt agent over to determine if they could/have influenced the election, and I guess they accepted his donation. Hehehe, Oh I wish I had a source on that, cause I'd like to read it.


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Old Sep 21, 2004, 01:57 pm   #31 (permalink) (top)
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Old Sep 21, 2004, 07:14 pm   #32 (permalink) (top)
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Hahaha, I just heard on the radio, the Kerry campaign accepting campaign contributions from a dude from South Korea. They sent a govt agent over to determine if they could/have influenced the election, and I guess they accepted his donation. Hehehe, Oh I wish I had a source on that, cause I'd like to read it.
Got a link? As it reads it sounds like one of those fact/speculation hybrids, where Kerry's people did indeed accept a contribution from S. Korea (I thought they were an ally of ours) and somebody is guessing (probably accurately) that they sent someone to influence Kerry if he wins.


Not a day goes by that I don't see something that reinforces my belief that people are idiots.
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Old Sep 21, 2004, 07:51 pm   #33 (permalink) (top)
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Rush did commentary on Kerry's appearance on the Regis and Kelly show this morning. From his site, I found a link to the korean story Associated Press without any difficulty.


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Old Sep 21, 2004, 11:38 pm   #34 (permalink) (top)
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I'm glad you posted the AP link, as I dislike Limbaugh intensely and as soon as I saw the name Michelle Malkin I would have stopped reading.
As for Korea, while it IS appearing as an embarrassment to Kerry, it is nothing new. First, other countries have done this with BOTH parties before if memory serves. Second, I doubt the Korean in question walked up to Kerry campaign HQ and said, "let me in, I'm a foreign intelligence officer". People DO get fooled, even our illustrious President when it comes to where he gets his Iraq intel.

And the Kiddie Kontributor story raises a question Limbaugh would not include in his story. Did the BUSH campaign ever recieve contributions like this? I would think Mr. and Mrs. Republican, in their fear of a Kerry win wouldn't have any problem with their good republican kid selling lemonade for the cause. It happened all the time when I was a kid. Even our Jr. High school had political rallies on school property and on school time.

This is why I despise Limbaugh and the other partisan chicken littles on both sides. As I think I said elsewhere, these people only exist to inflame people over piddly little details and spin away the downsides of THEIR guy while fattening their bank accounts.


Not a day goes by that I don't see something that reinforces my belief that people are idiots.
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Old Sep 21, 2004, 11:50 pm   #35 (permalink) (top)
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I'm glad you posted the AP link, as I dislike Limbaugh intensely and as soon as I saw the name Michelle Malkin I would have stopped reading.
I do too. He talks to fast, and he laughs at things that aren't funny. What really gets my goat, is that he talks to people in the next room, who aren't on a microphone, so you're wondering who the hell he's talking to? What I heard on the radio, was a 1min promo/comment kinda thing. I had to wait for the promo to come on again to figure out it was him, and get the link. I don't know who Malkin is, I saw that link at the top of the page, but didnt' follow it, and don't care to know.


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Old Sep 22, 2004, 01:23 am   #36 (permalink) (top)
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Originally posted by Compugasm,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='0' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Compugasm,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-Scribbler1,
I'm glad you posted the AP link, as I dislike Limbaugh intensely and as soon as I saw the name Michelle Malkin I would have stopped reading.
I do too. He talks to fast, and he laughs at things that aren't funny. What really gets my goat, is that he talks to people in the next room, who aren't on a microphone, so you're wondering who the hell he's talking to? What I heard on the radio, was a 1min promo/comment kinda thing. I had to wait for the promo to come on again to figure out it was him, and get the link. I don't know who Malkin is, I saw that link at the top of the page, but didnt' follow it, and don't care to know.[/b][/quote]

Malkin is a right wing columnist who sided with the Swift Boat vets and was foolish enough to go on Hardball. Chris Matthews can take apart people he LIKES, so needless to say he made her look like a misinformed clod. She went crying to Limbaugh the next day and he of course took her side.


Not a day goes by that I don't see something that reinforces my belief that people are idiots.
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Old Sep 24, 2004, 10:52 am   #37 (permalink) (top)
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NEWS FLASH: In order to improve his chances of winning. John Kerry changes his name to George McGovern.


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Old Sep 24, 2004, 02:25 pm   #38 (permalink) (top)
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Now for Dave654, sweetrose11, Giancarlo, and the like...
Who? I think I vaguely remember hearing the name Giancarlo. He was banned 6 months ago.


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Old Sep 24, 2004, 02:35 pm   #39 (permalink) (top)
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.Are you getting it ? Presidents are PRESELECTED. with a two party system it's easier.either one will do the job for the ultra/rich benefit.If there was a democracy, you would'nt need one or two hundred million to fund the campaign. ... Now for Dave654, sweetrose11, Giancarlo, and the like,

Yea, we get it. Not only are you preaching to the choir but you're coming off really pompous. You outed the two party sham for us, and Skull&Bones; thanks for the heads up Uber-journalist.


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Old Sep 24, 2004, 03:04 pm   #40 (permalink) (top)
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These "organisations" produce two things , respectively long term policies and presidents.which means Kerry WILL basicaly follow the agenda "assigned" to Bush.Are you getting it ? Presidents are PRESELECTED. with a two party system it's easier.
That is correct.
In early times, Kings, Queens, and others were "elected" by terms of : absolute monarchy.
Today, we have something similar, while dates, names, ect. change. That is all. Democracy is well suited, but for a kindergarden audience, and alike.
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