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Old Sep 15, 2004, 04:37 pm   #1 (permalink) (top)
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As far as I know, the following are the salient facts about the uhh.. pre-gubernatorial career of President Bush. They're followed by a few related events of more recent years. None of this is original by any means. I'm just amazed that so many people fail to make certain connections.
If anyone disputes these facts, please weigh in; also if you think they are 'cherry-picked' in any way.

G.W. Bush, a mediocre academic performer, formed Arbusto Energy in the 1970s and proceeded to mismanage it to the brink of insolvency. He was hauled out of the wreckage by one Salem bin Laden, Osama's half-brother, who purchased many of the shares at a 'nice price'.

The Saudis loomed large in Dubbya's world (the bin Ladens owned Houston airport and what-not). After his business failure, the future president was hired as a "consultant" by Harken Energy for $120,000 a year. Harken was one quarter Saudi-owned. Its legal counsel was the firm of James Baker, well known in places like Kuwait and, more recently, Florida.

George W. formally checked out of the oil business when he sold off his stock for a million bucks ... just two months before Saddam invaded Kuwait. At the time his dad was president and Baker secretary of state.

To me and millions of others there is a suspiciously cosy relationship between the Bushes and the Saudis who, during all this time, were busily bank-rolling fanatical Wahabi projects all over the place, not least the nuttier madrassas of Pakistan and, to a certain extent, the Taliban regime. Certainly the current president of the United States, the country's vice-president, and the president's father (and former president), made their fortunes through their connections with the Saudi royal clique, notably the bin Ladens.

To further spice up the incest, there's Frank Carlucci (former deputy CIA director and defense secretary) and his Carlyle Group (tanks, planes, missiles, etc.) which, for example, signed an $11 billion contract for an artillery system with the early Dubbya administration against the advice of the military itself. Under pressure from Pentagon experts, this was later cancelled, but not before Carlyle had made a bundle. Dubbya's dad is a Carlyle pillar.

Oil, arms, intelligence, nods, winks, wars -- how brutally obvious does it have to get? Yet, to believe the polls, Dubbya (that's "W" for Winston, right?) the war pres. is headed for victory on the strength of his, well, strength in terms of national security.

I'll terminate this outburst by quoting Paul Krugman in today's New York Times:

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The invasion of Iraq, intended to demonstrate American power, has done just the opposite: nasty regimes around the world feel empowered now that our forces are bogged down. When a Times reporter asked Mr. Bush about North Korea's ongoing nuclear program, "he opened his palms and shrugged."


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Old Sep 15, 2004, 08:28 pm   #2 (permalink) (top)
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Reading the pro-bush people's replies to these things are always like a show. I can't wait how they'll "not see anything suspicious" in this, or yap about it being "just business and coincedence".

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how brutally obvious does it have to get?
"TINFOIL HAT! BLACK HEILCOPTRES!11 LOL"

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Old Sep 15, 2004, 09:51 pm   #3 (permalink) (top)
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Originally posted by Paavo,
Reading the pro-bush people's replies to these things are always like a show. I can't wait how they'll "not see anything suspicious" in this, or yap about it being "just business and coincedence".



"TINFOIL HAT! BLACK HEILCOPTRES!11 LOL"

Grrr...
Don't forget the old standby, "Liberal Media". I sometimes wonder if they would still support the man if he admitted these things HIMSELF, or would they say he was misquoted.


Not a day goes by that I don't see something that reinforces my belief that people are idiots.
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Old Sep 16, 2004, 12:33 am   #4 (permalink) (top)
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I think Bush Senior retired from Carlyle.

"W" stands for Walker.

You forgot to tell how Dubya found fortune with the Texas Rangers baseball team. That's a cute little story.

I think it's time for the Lesser to go back to Texas and work on his ranch...


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Old Sep 16, 2004, 02:33 am   #5 (permalink) (top)
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He traded Sammy Sosa away from the Rangers, us Cub fans think it's a cute story.


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Old Sep 16, 2004, 06:29 am   #6 (permalink) (top)
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"W" stands for Walker.
Thanks Pat. How could I ever have imagined it was Winston? Must be the cigars, the bowler hat and the V-for-Victory signs. Not to mention the Bring-em-on-We-will-fight-on-the-beaches rhetoric.


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